Will she abdicate?

[Grasping]

I’m suspicious this is on the cards this year.

Does anyone else feel that things are being put in place for this?

Note that the Queen doesn't have to abdicate to delegate duties to others. Charles and William can appear in lieu of the Queen, which we've already started to see - I think we'll see this more and more, but the Queen will remain Queen until the day she dies.

Never. She means to serve her entire life.

@ClariceQuiff

Her message last weekend on the anniversary of her ascension said:

'As we mark this anniversary, it gives me pleasure to renew to you the pledge I gave in 1947 that my life will always be devoted to your service.'

That doesn't sound to me like a Queen about to abdicate.

Absolutely this. She will be there till the end, bless her.

Also, should she abdicate thé crown wouldn't pass to Charles, it would gobto the next in line had her father not been in line. Duke of Kent or Gloucester?

@newtb

Also, should she abdicate thé crown wouldn't pass to Charles, it would gobto the next in line had her father not been in line. Duke of Kent or Gloucester?

I didn’t know this

@newtb

Also, should she abdicate thé crown wouldn't pass to Charles, it would gobto the next in line had her father not been in line. Duke of Kent or Gloucester?

No, it wouldn't. There'd be an act of parliament to determine the terms of the abdication but normally it would pass to the heir apparent/presumptive, as it did when Edward VIII abdicated.

Moot point, anyway, because it's not going to happen.

@newtb

Also, should she abdicate thé crown wouldn't pass to Charles, it would gobto the next in line had her father not been in line. Duke of Kent or Gloucester?

Absolute nonsense. Where on gods earth have you got that from.

She won't abdicate. The only British monarch to have done this, her uncle Edward VIII, did so in disgrace.

However, she's 95, and will wind down. Charles and William will take on more, maybe eventually all, of her work.

I don't know what will happen if she goes gaga - whether they'd still wheel her out at state events? - probably not. Charles will take over all her duties, but until she breathes her last breath, she'll be Queen.

No

I very much doubt it and I hope she doesn't

There’s no way she will abdicate. I do believe she’s putting her house in order in preparation for Charle’s accession and that arrangements have been hastened following the death of Philip.

afaik the line of accession only goes back 'up' the chain when there is no one left 'down it or 'across it'

Only a monarch who abdicated without any children or siblings would cause the line to go back up to the monarch before them and try to find a way down from there. i.e. for it to go back up to George VI's generation, Elizabeth II would have had to have never had children and been an only child (or Margaret have died without children).

Oh and no, I don't think she will abdicate. I believe what she meant by 'As we mark this anniversary, it gives me pleasure to renew to you the pledge I gave in 1947 that my life will always be devoted to your service.' was... 'I shall remain Queen until I die'.

The Queen mother was attending public engagements up until a few months before her death. She was 100 or 101 at the time. I don't think The Queen will be winding down much more than she has.

@newtb

Also, should she abdicate thé crown wouldn't pass to Charles, it would gobto the next in line had her father not been in line. Duke of Kent or Gloucester?

People really do come up with some utter 💩 on here.

@newtb

Also, should she abdicate thé crown wouldn't pass to Charles, it would gobto the next in line had her father not been in line. Duke of Kent or Gloucester?

This sounded so convincing though. I was like

@Dottychickens

No, she only has to be queen for 2 more years to be the longest-reigning monarch in history…she already the longest reigning female so I think she’ll hold out to that to go down in history with that title.

Two reigned for 70 years 91 days and 126 days respectively. I think it's likely she will pass those.

Then there's Louis XIV with 72 years 110 days. But he had the distinct advantage of becoming King when he was only 4 years 8mths old

Given her father and uncles history I'm absolutely certain she would not voluntarily abdicate unless forced by mental or physical infirmity.

and she's 96, noticably thinner and frailer. Her time left is short now.

My reading is that she's just trying to clear the deck so that when she dies the transition to Charles is as smooth as possible. Absolutely no room for debate on Camilla's title and status; absolutely no room for "this is not what THE Queen would have wanted." The next coronation can be set in motion ASAP.

@FloBot7

The Queen mother was attending public engagements up until a few months before her death. She was 100 or 101 at the time. I don't think The Queen will be winding down much more than she has.

At 96, she has already "wound down" her public engagements much more than her mother had at 100. She looks much tinier and frailer than she did just a couple of years ago, and much tinier and frailer than her mother at 96.

@newtb

Also, should she abdicate thé crown wouldn't pass to Charles, it would gobto the next in line had her father not been in line. Duke of Kent or Gloucester?

No. She IS the Monarch so if she abdicates it goes to her next in line, Charles.

DofG and Dof K are 31 and 41 in line of succession, in other words "off the map". Ahead of me, but not enough to matter.

britroyals.com/succession.asp

No.

I mean she's repeatedly made it absolutely clear (most recently this weekend) that she intends to honour the vows she made on her coronation day and that she will serve as the nation's Monarch until death.

Every Royal Commentator/Historian of note has emphasised this repeatedly too.

I agree with what someone posted above when they say that to think 'she might' abdicate is to fundamentally misunderstand the character of The Queen.

I think some people might be confused about the abdication because that of Edward VIII included the words "declare my irrevocable determination to renounce the throne for myself and for my descendants"

The crucial bit that is sometimes overlooked is that at that point he had no descendants. He was not taking a legitimate heir out of the succession, he was making it clear that any children of his impending marriage to Mrs Simpson, or any future marriage if she pre-deceased him, would not be eligible to join the succession.

Those in the succession can abdicate only for themselves and for any children not yet born at the time of the abdication. They cannot remove other people from the line, including their own existing DC

I agree with what someone posted above when they say that to think 'she might' abdicate is to fundamentally misunderstand the character of The Queen

I'm wondering if there is also confusion about the difference between retiring - which couid be either what she's doing now, reducing duties and passing them to State Counsellors, or could be complete relinquishment and Charles installed as Prince Regent - and abdication

I don't think she'll abdicate - I think she sees her views as lifelong, and I expect she will die as Queen, not as HRH the Duchess of Edinburgh

No way after seeing her uncle doing it
In theory she has been anointed by god to fill that role - no way walking away

She has always said she would die on the throne. But - she is almost 96 and as a recent widow with health problems she is likely aware her days are numbered. Celebrations usually mark every 5 years and she won’t make that.