Interesting analysis on social media about Meghan

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Interesting analysis but who could be paying for this concerted effort? It’s suggested that not only is it coordinated but the people doing it are paid to do so.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/ellievhall/bot-sentinel-meghan-markle-prince-harry-twitter

"I find her disingenuous", "I just don't like her". Yes, because you've been fed a diet of dogwhistle racism, xenophobia and misogyny. This report proves it and you still persist with disliking her. Laughable the lack of critical thinking

Well... the twitter link I put above with 'What did Msghan do that was actually so bad?' has about 300 posts.
I saw one negative against her out of all of them. So all the generalisations I've seen in the past on these threads about... everyone dislikes her is really not true.

It's just that the detractors are just very vocal and active in recruiting new detractors, as these reports can verify.

The marriage thing is always so hilarious to me, I understood exactly what she meant. I got married 6 months before my actual UK wedding as it is so common in my culture. To me, my husband and family we were indeed married and I told everyone that I was married . That doesn’t make me or anyone in my culture a liar when we say we got married, it common. I don’t really get why it’s such a big deal to some people especially in the UK/ Mumsnet when they use Meghan’s statement as a gotcha. When I got married a priest was there, we didn’t sign any papers but to us and others we were considered married. I know so many people in the UK who are British but from different parts of the world( esp Africa where this is the case).

I thought it was well known that Twitter is the number one site to be infiltrated by groups/bots outwith the U.K. primarily to agitate, stoke the flames of politics and race and generally sow division in the West whenever and wherever they can. We saw it with the US election, EU Referendum, Indy Ref, with the England football team and now with HM/RF.

Yes, there are some horrible views posted on SM by individuals but this sort of activity is very organised and not in the same the same league. I'm not on Twitter so the majority doesn't reach my radar.

@Menstrualcycledisplayteam

"I find her disingenuous", "I just don't like her". Yes, because you've been fed a diet of dogwhistle racism, xenophobia and misogyny. This report proves it and you still persist with disliking her. Laughable the lack of critical thinking

It’s called freedom of speech. I don’t have to ascribe to your view. I have critical thinking and I am entitled to my views without being called a racist, xenophobic and a misogynist. I am a member of the Church of England and found Meghan and Harry’s disrespect for the Archbishop of Canterbury and the value of marriage vows unbelievable. She choose to become a member of the Church of England- is she that stupid that she didn’t understand and didn’t bother to understand

Maybe she was using her freedom of speech.

The shock is it's so few accounts. But it comes as no surprise there is an actual hate campaign against them. And it's true that the silence from the firm is deafening. This would have been immediately nipped in the bud if the media had had the nod.

The daily attacks from the mail are so depressing.

The marriage issue has run its course now I think. Common sense will tell anyone that for M they said their vows in private with the AoC - it was just the two of them so more intimate -whether it was the legal definition of marriage or not is neither here nor there - for her she felt that she had exchanged her vows on that day which was a more private occasion. It was a conversation and her description of what it was to her. What I think really grates some who hold this like dog with a bone and have taken really offence is that she described her public wedding as "a spectacle" and again it was a description in her language. I also agree it was a spectacle - and not that she was disrespecting anyone or unappreciative of anything - but it was a spectacle for the world to see and in the true definition of the word - Isn't that what Royal weddings are about?

I am not a fan of Harry and Meghan by a long shot. But I do think some stories are put out just to stoke the fires of their most fervent haters.

I am not a fan of Harry and Meghan by a long shot. But I do think some stories are put out just to stoke the fires of their most fervent haters

Oh so true.

I see they are back to letter writing again.

[quote Labloverrr]@Menstrualcycledisplayteam

Another one slandering people with serious false allegations of racism and xenophobia. The irony.[/quote]
Pmsl
So slagging off meghan = ok
Calling people out for doing it is slander.
You couldn't make it up lol

Laughable the lack of critical thinking

I don’t think you understand what ‘critical thinking’ means.

Does anybody.

@OppsUpsSide - the ability to use facts to form opinions. Like, for example, the helpful functionality on this site that allows you to look at people's posting history on both MM and topics like racism to form conclusions about their actual opinions, even when they state that they "just don't like her" for reasons utterly unconnected to her race. Statements like "I don't like Islam" for example, or deny that the depiction of the apes in Jungle Book is racist.

Bit worrying you're a teacher, tbh.

[quote Menstrualcycledisplayteam]@OppsUpsSide - the ability to use facts to form opinions. Like, for example, the helpful functionality on this site that allows you to look at people's posting history on both MM and topics like racism to form conclusions about their actual opinions, even when they state that they "just don't like her" for reasons utterly unconnected to her race. Statements like "I don't like Islam" for example, or deny that the depiction of the apes in Jungle Book is racist.

Bit worrying you're a teacher, tbh.[/quote]
You can search a posters history and you will find differing opinions on a wide range of subjects. You are of course free to make a judgement/assumption on that person. However, if the post still stands then it obviously doesn't break MN guidelines on racism/xenophobia and maybe your judgement or assumption is incorrect.

Using your example of 'I don't like Islam' does that mean your thought process has bridged the massive chasm and come to the assumption/conclusion that this therefore must mean that a person dislikes all Muslims?. I feel sad for you if that is your mindset. That type of assumption is offensive, dangerous and libellous if you are stating that as fact on a public forum.

The MM/PH is nothing new, we saw it with Brexit for example, you voted the 'wrong way' you are labelled a racist. It's tedious.

I would certainly question who has fallen into what trap.

I have said before that in my opinion there will be a massive kick back against this labelling, cancelling and othering people for just having a different opinion. We are are very much going backwards at the moment.

I was informed once that it was against Mumsnet etiquette to search a posters history and then use their postings from old threads on current threads.
Some of your own comments have been deleted on this thread. They must have breached the guidelines.

Yes, as I said, I don’t think you understand what it means.

@LazRaz, yes, I suspect they did. I accused previous posters of disliking MM because of racism, whether conscious or not. And I stand by that accusation. I also think you're probably right that it is bad form; its the first time I've done it - I just think that a previous posting history on a range of subjects, and a poster's willingness to think (really) ill of a black woman with little basis on which to do so are probably a decent indication of their bias. And I stand by that accusation too.

Per MN guidelines, accusing someone of being racist = bad. Actually being demonstrably racist in previous posts = totally fine.

@OppsUpsSide, I feel sorry for your pupils. Particularly the black ones.

@Menstrualcycledisplayteam

🤷🏻‍♀️ Ok.

@Roussette

Well... the twitter link I put above with 'What did Msghan do that was actually so bad?' has about 300 posts. I saw one negative against her out of all of them. So all the generalisations I've seen in the past on these threads about... everyone dislikes her is really not true. It's just that the detractors are just very vocal and active in recruiting new detractors, as these reports can verify.

That link puts it out starkly, how ridiculous the accussations are.

Whole article in the DM about them donating £18 for Starbucks vouchers from Archewell. Its for coffee for the campaigners for the paid leavd campaign. Which Biden has dropped. Bit mad IMHO.

Whether Biden dropped it or not, how does that suddenly mean the campaigners did not work hard on it.