Prince Philip, from an foreigner's perspective

[Kishkashta]

I am not English, but have been living here for quite a while. And I just don't get what all the fuss is about with prince Philip.

Every single article I read (there are a lot of them lately...) mentions his unconventional personality and sense of humor. But the thing is, from my experience, this is just cookie cutter behavior of the (especially older male) members of the British upper class. These politically incorrect jokes that kind of just stir the water a bit and slightly off kilter behavior. I just find it weird how in these articles it is presented as something unique about him whereas in reality all these stories are just something that describes essentially his class rather than his personality.

Also I don't know how anybody can take seriously the attempts to paint his life as full of hardships (had to give up his "Navy career" to support the Queen - the only reason he had his kind of career is obviously his background and marriage, etc).

To me, from these descriptions, he just seems to be an extremely ordinary person who literally did nothing special other than existing until age 99...

Is there something I don't get about this?

[quote worriedatthemoment]@UnderHisAye why be disrespectful though?
It affects you in no way so whats your problem
So if you had a son in the team would you tell him to talk or not conform
He holds a position in this country if a serving president dies in other countries Im sure they have protocols
Sporting events often have a minutes silence for people [/quote]
I wouldn't go out of my way to be respectful or disrespectful tbh. A minute passes pretty quickly.

On a forum like this though, or in conversations with people I know, I wouldn't pretend.

UnderhisAye - indeed that's exactly what people such as PP fought for -- your right to not agree with public figures and governments. Great isn't it?

Yes lots fought in wars - some have to lead in wars too and take responsibility for decisions; then later receive abuse because others say they did this or that wrong.

I admire people that stand up and try, rather than people who sit from the side line saying "what about, what about" and it's all right for you etc etc.

I admire imperfect people if I think their intentions are from a good place - I don't have to like everything about someone to like or respect them, that would be really, really stupid.

Dear me! I'm not emigrating from my own country because some royalist gets a snit on. Talk about bloody ridiculous! I hope most people who like the royal family are a bit more than you.

@Alltheprettyseahorses if their playing team sport yes it is something they need to learn
You may not respect them but plenty do but why not just ignore the coverage and get on with life
Not respecting or agreeing with something doesn't mean you then have to be disrespectful

I wonder if people would be so insensitive if national mourning had been announced for a tragedy where a number had people died, and as they didn’t know them they couldn’t give a damn and would be complaining about it.

Well you said it yourself. You are not British and she’s not your Queen, unless you are from the commonwealth. There isn’t anything for you to get. I used to live in Spain and feel nothing for their monarchy.

@Alltheprettyseahorses your the one who said your embarrassed to live in this country?
I have no real feelings towards the RF actually they affect me very little
There will always be people with more privileged life's that me ( its not hard)
But as we have a long standing queen and he was by her side for that time and also fought in a war, I can show him some respect especially a minute
Im not sad as I don't know him and he was 99 so thats an amazing age

@UnderHisAye you would happily send 94 year old woman to a gulag. You sound pleasant

You can admire him all you like. Once again, we don't all have to. I don't and I won't. Frankly I wouldn't object if someone sent the lot of them to a gulag overnight and we woke up a republic.
What a nasty thing to say

I meant to be nauseatingly facetious to you, sorry that went over your head. I wouldn't was time being patronising.

Someone needs to chillax [laugh]

Alltheprettyseahorses - If someone wants to pay their respects to Prince Phillip by laying flowers at Windsor Castle why on earth would you feel embarrassed. It isn't something I would do for any of the royals or anyone famous, but it doesn't bother me if others want to do it.

whoops internet jumping -
waste time being patronising to someone so unpleasant. The language some use is appalling really - the "nice" posters the freedom fighters that will free us from tyranny etc God save us from these type of "freedom fighters" - we saw how that went in the last war....

Allthepretty.....

If you are embarrassed why not go live somewhere else? I’ve lived in 4 other countries and came back to the UK when I realised the grass wasn’t greener and that actually our history, culture and values were actually quite nice. Shame people like you can’t see that and prefer to self flagellate over being British instead.

@Mamamia456 because I think some in life like to look for what can offend them next.

I'm not stopping them, Mamamia456. I don't want it to be imposed on me 🤷‍♀️

JFC someone else telling me to leave my own country because I don't think mourning is appropriate. Do you want to take a deep breath and think about whether what you're saying is really appropriate? This is MY country too, remember. I'm not telling you to leave because you dared to disagree with me. Absolutely bizarre!

Alltheprettyseahorses - How is it being imposed upon you. No one is forcing you to lay flowers!

The state of mourning is being imposed on me ...

@Alltheprettyseahorses no you phrased it you have to live in a country when actually there is a choice
No one is forcing anything on you , you haven't been frogmarched to lay flowers or any thing
You own a remote I guess so can turn tv over

@Alltheprettyseahorses do you know what the state of mourning involves ?
Nothing in it affects your day to day life in any great way does it ?

Feck it, I give up. I won't BRB, I'll be too busy packing to leave the country. Utterly batshit!

My main problem is the continuous coverage, with very little new being shown. Enough already!

@Alltheprettyseahorses what because you can't name one thing how it actually affects you
You can totally ignore it as I suspect many will
It has had zero affect on my life today what has it had on yours ?