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The royal family

Harry & Meghan, all welcome (aka positive thread, now renamed!)

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Roussette · 01/08/2020 20:35

Here we are, let's inform, discuss, share and respect. Smile

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Roussette · 03/08/2020 15:23

I dont think she cared what the public thought

Really? I doubt that.

Not what I think, and it's good there is a spread of opinion on this thread to balance it all out.

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Wolfgirrl · 03/08/2020 15:24

@Roussette okay well we can flip the question.

What did she do to please the public?

Roussette · 03/08/2020 15:37

That is such a wide ranging question but not sure I have the gist of it.

Do you mean what did she do to please the public on her wedding day?

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Wolfgirrl · 03/08/2020 15:44

@Roussette

Anything she did during her time in the RF to please the British public & show she was trying to immerse herself into British life.

Kate didn't need to do that as such as she is British, but she chose a British fashion house for her wedding dress. They sometimes holiday within the UK, & she chose to have her children at St Mary's hospital, which is a traditionally British hospital (ex NHS I think?!). All decisions she knew would please the public.

ajandjjmum · 03/08/2020 15:45

I assume Wolfgirrl means what has she ever done to please the public?

ajandjjmum · 03/08/2020 15:45

@ajandjjmum

I assume Wolfgirrl means what has she ever done to please the public?
Whoops - crosspost! Sorry.
Samcro · 03/08/2020 16:09

i thought it was agreed that we wouldn't use bring down one woman to make another look better?
or it that only when Meghan is the one perceived to be bad.

Roussette · 03/08/2020 16:13

It's such a funny turn of phrase... to please the british public?

The hospital Kate had babies at was the Lindo Wing where other Royals had their babies. Not sure a woman should be criticised as to where they choose to have a baby. I read somewhere plans had to change for Meghan because of some complication or other, might have that wrong.

I have no idea what MM did to please you (nothing obviously) but to see Harry marrying the one he loves was great. I don't feel all these details about british designers in a french fashion house, hospital where she chose to have her baby blah blah matters to me as much as it does for someone who is looking for this sort of criticism. I know without doubt that answer won't be enough for you as you choose to drill down on my answer! But there you go...
I'm the public too, and I was quite happy about her choices because to me, it is about choice. And there will be other members of the public who feel the same

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Wolfgirrl · 03/08/2020 16:16

So what were her duties to the public? Or do you believe in living a life of luxury courtesy of the taxpayer doesnt warrant any kind of return?

It seems like you don't really understand the role of the RF, you just want to simper and fawn over them.

Wolfgirrl · 03/08/2020 16:21

Meghan's supporters act like is a nonentity off the street that we have all chosen to pick on when she should be free to do exactly as she likes.

She has spent millions of taxpayers money on clothes and trinkets she will get to keep. The public spent over a million pounds doing up her house that she only lived in for a few months. The public have spent millions on her security, and even more millions on her wedding. She chose to join the RF and accept all this money despite never having paid a penny of tax here in her life.

Meanwhile people that have paid into the pot their whole lives get less a year than we paid for one of her outfits when they fall on hard times.

I dont think it is unreasonable to expect her to show some gratitude and loyalty in return by wearing British brands and following royal tradition. Yes the traditions are a bit weird, but then so is moving halfway across the world to live as a millionaire at another country's expense.

You cant have everything (or actually you can, apparently Hmm )

Roussette · 03/08/2020 16:23

So her work with the people of Grenfell was nothing then... and Smartworks ...

It seems like you don't really understand the role of the RF, you just want to simper and fawn over them
May I suggest, in the interests of harmony and keeping the thread, we don't start going down the personal insult route. I could retaliate with what I think of your view of them but I won't for that reason. Simper and fawn is rude.

As I have said, on about a million occasions on these threads. I think they have been a couple of idiots at how they've handled some stuff at times. They aren't perfect. Nor are K&W for instance.
But I, however, do not believe she deserved the press she received in contrast to Kate. It was ridiculous.

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Wolfgirrl · 03/08/2020 16:25

Sorry if it came across as rude.

As for Grenfell, the news is reporting today that meghan made a 'donation' from the community cookbook, aka not all the profits went to charity Hmm

And she did what, 2 visits to Smartworks? Maybe a couple of hours each time? In 18 months?

Not exactly value for money is it.

Roussette · 03/08/2020 16:25

Wolfgirl... your view is your view.
Mine is mine.
And never the two shall meet

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Samcro · 03/08/2020 16:26

didn't she have maternity leave during her time with the RF?

Roussette · 03/08/2020 16:27

Please don't run down her contribution to Smartworks and Grenfell. As I understand it, they thought a lot of her, and really appreciated her contribution and continue to do so.

Thanks for the apology Smile

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MoreHippoThanPenguin · 03/08/2020 16:37

To be honest, I think it was great that she choose a British designer for her wedding dress. I don’t mind that she didn’t also choose a British fashion house, it was her wedding, maybe she had always dreamt of a certain style/make of dress? I bought a wedding dress in the sales and had to lose weight to fit in it, but I respect anyone who has a “dream dress”.

Obviously it is great if the British Royal family supports British fashion, but I don’t know enough about brands and the details of her clothes to be able to make an informed comment. I think she usually looks great in her clothes except the green cape thing, but I am at all a fashion expert. I also think that it must be harder (and more expensive) to build up a wardrobe than to add to it. Especially if you are pregnant part of the time and don’t have the figure of a model like Kate (who probably would look amazing in almost anything).

I don’t think this criticism of Meghan is fair really Confused.

Roussette · 03/08/2020 16:38

She launched the cookbook together with the women of Grenfell. No of course she didn't write all the recipes, don't think anyone thought she had!
The recipes were by the women of Grenfell, each recipe had a story behind it.

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Myimaginarycathadfleas · 03/08/2020 16:38

I have no idea what MM did to please you (nothing obviously) but to see Harry marrying the one he loves was great.

She hardly did this to please the British public, at least, I'd hope not.

I've said before and elsewhere that Smartworks and the Grenfell Community Kitchen were very good projects for which she deserves full credit. More of this sort of work would definitely have done much to endear her, however came there none.

I can't for the life of me think of anything else significant, apart from a few token appearances.

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Roussette · 03/08/2020 16:48

What?

I'm at fault for saying that a comment is unpleasant when it is? That's a new one on me.

I found that comment horrible and unpleasant. If I posted something 'fawning' my god it would be jumped on all over endlessly.
What are you trying to do? Stop anyone picking up on a nasty comment, we're not allowed to say it's unpleasant?

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