A positive thread on Harry and Meghan (aka Thread 6)

[Mummy195]

@rousette

I'm sure you won't mind that your excellent link gets 'pinned'.

Some of the things MM did before marrying H.

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It seemed blatantly obvious that the their earlier leak to People would be integral to the AN case but I do think this wasn't explained properly to M or to her friends

Does it matter? I'd have thought that, if you get involved with media stories about someone who's known to fling lawsuits, there's a pretty good chance of ending up involved in one ... something 5 adult (and presumably intelligent) women might have been expected to work out for themselves

And it doesn't matter whether MM "accepts" her friends will be witnesses or not. They chose to get involved and will have to bear the consequences of that - though if they refuse I guess that's a matter for the court

Either way, I expect what may have seemed a jolly jape at the time now looks rather different

They probably are "unwilling participants" from their perspective, SunbathingDragon! But there's only one person who has landed them in this mess, which is Meghan. She chose to file the lawsuit, and rely in it on the fact that they told People all about this letter without her knowledge.

“ Today a skeleton argument presented to the court by Meghan's legal team said: 'To disclose their identities to the public at this stage is an unacceptable price to pay for the right to pursue her claim for invasion of privacy'.

Do we think MM is going to drop her case ?

@SunbathingDragon as far as I can see, she doesn't have a problem with them talking to People. I may be wrong.

I know this thread isn't about Andrew, but if there's one member of the Royal Family who needs bodyguards at the moment, it's him!

True! Although I doubt he's got stories on others, it's what's on him !

I can't see how it would not occur to you that in starting that court case, it is inevitable that the 'friends' would be part of the opposition's case. What did Meghan imagine would happen, that she just gives her statement and the judge accepts it without question because we all know tabloids are nasty?

I’m sure she wants to drop it but doesn’t want to be seen to back down
It will look like a noble gesture to save your friends

Do we think MM is going to drop her case ?

I think the 'unacceptable price to pay' line opens up that escape route, yes. But then she will have to pay AN's costs, is that correct? Also, think it was said a while back that she couldn't now drop it without AN agreeing. Is that accurate?

I agree Andrew needs protection officers. It is entirely possible some 'vigilante' type may go for him if he's not protected. He's widely regarded as a paedophile.

For now, we are going to limit the number of threads running about Meghan Markle. We will keep all discussion to one or two threads

Can I please ask? The other thread on H&M has been closed down, so am I given to understand that if we don't have anything positive to say about H&M we must leave MN and go elsewhere? Just want some clarity here as I don't want to discuss PA or Beatrice getting married there aren't any other threads that aren't full and I presume that anything I say on this thread will be deleted by mods if it isn't fawning adulation of Saint Meghan. Just want some clarity here. Thank you.

They can have an out of court settlement. So yes, I think she could say she doesn’t want to pursue it any longer. The problem is, surely, that AN will require the friends to be witnesses. They will be asked very difficult questions and they will be required to tell the truth. From Ms point of view, there is great difficulty in that if she briefed them. Her letter therefore wasn’t private.

The PA thread wasn’t full when I liked earlier. PA on the PA thread and M here I guess would be sensible?

Saw this on Twitter

Why not ask mn hq?
They have an email address, or ask in site stuff.
Maybe mn hq have woken up and realised a parenting site isn't the right place for a parent to be ripped apart.

But AN have to agree to settle, right? It can't be imposed on them? (You can tell I've never worked on a legal drama ) Because I wonder if they wouldn't just prefer to go through with the court case and take their chances, plus they'll be able to publish loads more articles from it then.

a parenting site isn't the right place for a parent to be ripped apart

They'd better get busy moderating in Chat and AIBU then. It's happening all the time there.

I feel for the 5 friends. It's a dreadful situation to be in. If they give evidence that they didn't leak or that MM wasn't involved it'll have to be sufficiently consistent to be believed but not a cut and paste job, because that'll give defence counsel ammo ( & set off alarm bells with the judge). If they say she was involved then the backlash will be fierce. If they're called they'll have to answer the questions put to them, so saying nothing isn't an option. MM's attempts s at deflection are either well-meaning but misguided ( I didn't get the relevance of her saying the 5 were young mothers) or a she's worried about what they'll say; most people find it hard to lie consistently under pressure.
I had a similar situation when a 'friend' & colleague used me in an employment case. Calling me as a ( reluctant) witness as a ploy to put pressure on our them employers. She let me sit in court for 2 days and left halfway through the 2nd day without even telling me that she'd accepted a cash settlement

@Roussette

I know this thread isn't about Andrew, but if there's one member of the Royal Family who needs bodyguards at the moment, it's him!

True! Although I doubt he's got stories on others, it's what's on him !

Also this. The crazy thing is that he thought he was doing himself a world of good with that interview, full and frank, compliant.

@ButteryPuffin

a parenting site isn't the right place for a parent to be ripped apart

They'd better get busy moderating in Chat and AIBU then. It's happening all the time there.

Agreed.

Maybe mn hq have woken up and realised a parenting site isn't the right place for a parent to be ripped apart.

Prince Andrew is a parent.

@SunbathingDragon

Maybe mn hq have woken up and realised a parenting site isn't the right place for a parent to be ripped apart.

Prince Andrew is a parent.

Exactly. As if that means your behaviour doesn't get scrutinised on this basis. Please.

a parenting site isn't the right place for a parent to be ripped apart

Trump and BoJo are both parents - no shortage of ripping apart there.

@ButteryPuffin

a parenting site isn't the right place for a parent to be ripped apart

They'd better get busy moderating in Chat and AIBU then. It's happening all the time there.

Very true, but i have never seen so many threads about one person inthe 16 yearsi have been here. M does not deserve that.

Kate and William are also parents and I believe rumours and speculation about William were allowed to stand.

Also Kanye West's mental health. Whilst KK made it public, is it really in the spirit of MN to discuss a parent's MH in such detail?

No one is allowed to be critical of a parent on a parenting site?

I must have read all those chat and aibu threads wrong then. I’m sure there was lots of criticism when people suggested leaving their child at home whilst they nipped to the shops or leaving their child in Car whilst paying for petrol or not providing a bedroom for their step-child or only feeding their child MacDonald and cola or on and on and on. I really must improve my reading and comprehension skills as I could have swore blind there was criticism of everyday parents on this site constantly. But no apparently it’s not allowed so I must have been wrong.