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The royal family

Prince William has confirmed he will marry Kate Middleton next year

484 replies

phipps · 16/11/2010 11:14

I wonder if we will get a Bank Holiday for it.

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LadyBlaBlah · 16/11/2010 20:34

What Kiwi - what exactly do they do?

Nancy66 · 16/11/2010 20:35

Where have I sneered at the poor?

I've just pointed out that not EVERYBODY in the Uk is hard up - that's all. No sneering from me.

I've been poor. Now I'm not.

Georgimama · 16/11/2010 20:36

No reason to sneer at anyone, is there, which you are doing. Not their fault they've had a good deal in life, and perhaps they feel they might as well do something useful with their position in life, which they do.

LadyBlaBlah · 16/11/2010 20:39

Do something useful? What do they do that is so useful?

Can anyone answer this question?

Nancy - you sounded very I'm alright Jack, fuck the lot of you, when you said:

"And not everyone is feeling the cuts.

I'm not Grin "

It's the Grin

Nancy66 · 16/11/2010 20:42

use of smiley face emoticon usually indicates humour does it not?

Georgimama · 16/11/2010 20:42

Why don't you google it then? Or look at the Court Circular page occasionally? Or the Queen's website?

Do you honestly think the woman just sits there polishing her crown all day long?

TankFlyBossWalk · 16/11/2010 20:42

Nancy66, yes Kate Middleton has been photographed in mink fur. The royal family don't don't 'cull' deer, they're members of fox and stag hunts and do it for fun.

They're a national embarrassment.

LadyBlaBlah · 16/11/2010 20:43

It's maybe not funny that you are not suffering from the cuts? Just a bit smug

LadyBlaBlah · 16/11/2010 20:46

On the charity work:

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Even the palace itself claims credit for charity work in an attempt to justify the enormous cost of the monarchy to the taxpayer. It is used as a smokescreen to deflect attention from the real issues. It works well because few people are willing to question another person's charity 'work'. It is, however, little more than a cynical PR exercise.

Two obvious points can first be raised to rebut this monarchist defence:

* The royals can continue to do charity work in a republic. They do not need official 'royal' statue to raise money for charity.
* Their value to charities is their celebrity status, which they will retain even after the monarchy is gone.

If you are unconvinced by these simple points it is worth considering some pertinent questions:

* What charity work do they actually do?
* How do other countries manage without the Windsors?
* What charities are they mainly involved with? (many are their own creations)

The following points are also worth considering:

* This is a cynical use of charities to bolster their own reputations and stave off criticism about their lifestyles and extravagances
* There is a big difference between simply turning up at engagements, (what the royals do) and being an engaged patron (something many other celebrity patrons do)
LadyBlaBlah · 16/11/2010 20:47

On working hard:

Let's assume for a moment that the Windsors do work hard, is this an argument for the monarchy? Should we appoint a head of state, MPs or other officials based on who works the most hours in the year?

Nurses, teachers, manual workers, police officers and even City bankers - these are people who work hard. To compare the royals' lifestyle with theirs is absurd. The royals are paid astronomic hourly rates for their "work" and yet accept none of the risks of redundancy or formal performance appraisals, and do not have the same chores and responsibilities the rest of us face at home.

The simple truth is that they do very little. Mark Bolland, former press officer for Prince Charles, was quoted on Janet Street Porter's BBC programme in 2005 as saying "the Windsors are very good at working three days a week, five months of a year and making it look as though they work hard" .

Georgimama · 16/11/2010 20:48

You've quite clearly cut and paste that from somewhere. You seem to be missing the point that the Queen is also head of state, and costs us significantly less money than other heads of state do their respective countries.

Nancy66 · 16/11/2010 20:50

If the country wanted a republic I daresay we could have one - but poll after poll shows that the overwhelming majority want a monarchy.

tethersend · 16/11/2010 20:51

Is this supposed to cheers us up in our hour of darkness?

Because to be honest, I'd rather have some free cheese.

Georgimama · 16/11/2010 20:52

Ah, here it is:

republican nonsense

Thought it looked a little bit pat.

Nancy66 · 16/11/2010 20:54

ha ha ha - tut tut Ladyblah - no original thoughts of your own?

fraggletits · 16/11/2010 20:57

I remember reading Kate's Mum, a social climbing ex air hostess was known as 'doors to manual' by williams inner circle.

That probably isn't true though.

Who was that pug faced slapper Harry was always being photographed with last year? If only it was them sat there on ITV tonight - hilarious!

KnittingisbetterthanTherapy · 16/11/2010 21:01

LadyBlaBlah linked to that website ages ago. Wake up.

strandedatseasonsgreetings · 16/11/2010 21:04

From what I understand, some of the royals work harder than others. I gather Princess Anne is one of the harder working ones.

But yes I agree, they do seem to go on a lot of expensive holidays in places like Kenya, the Caribbean and Switzerland (skiing).

LadyBlaBlah · 16/11/2010 21:04

It is from the Republic website

You should try reading it

LadyBlaBlah · 16/11/2010 21:05

Yes, Georgimama - they have some interesting figures on other heads of state costing significantly less

Georgimama · 16/11/2010 21:08

Yes she did, but I don't think she made any attempt to make it clear that her subsequent posts were a verbatim cut and paste job from it. Looked very much like we were supposed to think these marvellous arguments were her own.

I have read it. Or are you attempting to deploy the classic Harriet Harman argument - you don't agree with me because you don't understand.

LadyBlaBlah · 16/11/2010 21:09

FFS - the posts were less than a minute apart

Please don't use this to divert away from the argument - what is it they do that is so useful?

KnittingisbetterthanTherapy · 16/11/2010 21:09

The figures for comparitive heads of state are pretty clear georgimama so maybe you don't understand Grin.

herhonesty · 16/11/2010 21:15

if their jobs are what you call hard work then I'll gladly swap for mine.

Georgimama · 16/11/2010 21:17

Because of course a pro republican website is an entirely neutral and reliable source of information about comparative costs of political systems.

Your latest cut and paste job came nearly six hours after you pasted the link, and you've already been told what they do that is useful. This isn't an argument about republicanism, by the way (or it wasn't until you tried to dictate so), it's a thread about an engagement.