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Upset by euthanasia experience

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kittyloss · 10/09/2024 14:55

Hi, I just wanted somewhere to express my emotions about the loss of my darling boy yesterday. He had been unwell for a couple of months with gastro issues. At the advice of the vets he was on steroids briefly but they made him agitated so we discontinued. His symptoms and bloodwork pointed to potential cancer but the vet didn't push us to have scans or invasive biopsies because of his recent frailty and age (13). we had already decided on palliative care only if cancer. Over this last weekend he deteriorated and was vomiting blood frequently. He was trying to be his old self but was not able to groom, too tired to go downstairs to the litter tray so would toilet upstairs in corners. He wanted affection and cuddles but also hid away by himself. His weight loss was constant even though he was still eating and drinking.

Yesterday morning we called the vet and made an appointment for two hours later for potential euthanasia. In discussion with the vet and the examination she said she could now feel a mass on his abdomen which wasn't obvious before in previous vet visits. This made it easier to make the decision. I know it was the right decision but I'm feeling a bit haunted by the process.

He was calm during the examination and a bit restless, jumping down from the table a couple of times. My DH held him for a bit. Then the vet went to prepare the injection. I'd read that he would be given a sedative for drowsiness first but he didn't get one. So when the nurse held him still and the vet gave the injection, he struggled against the needle and was a bit confused/stressed for a moment until it kicked in. He caught my eye for a second and it felt like he was asking me why I was letting them hurt him. I know it was a normal reaction for him but I feel so guilty his last moments might have been stressful and sad.

He went floppy and prone very quickly but his eyes remained open during and after it was over. He was laid on the table still breathing and I was saying goodbye and telling him I loved him but obviously I know he couldn't hear me. The vet monitored his heartbeat until it was gone. Then we had a couple of minutes alone with him where we both sobbed. He just looked so empty there, lifeless with open misty eyes. In the moment it felt like I killed him, I watched him die and did nothing and then he was just gone. When the vet came in I said I felt guilty and she just said 'why?' so I felt silly. I've spoken to DH about it and he says I'm not being silly but it's all ok and it was the best thing but I just can't shake the image of my boy there on the table. Turning away and just leaving him there. He's being individually cremated at our request and the ashes returned to us.

I've seen pics and videos where people's pets just look like they were sleeping but this wasn't like that. I should have thought about it beforehand or asked what was normal I guess. I'm jealous of people whose pet had a sedative or if they were laying down purring then basically asleep, especially if it was a home vet visit (we tried to get one but the vet was short staffed so no one available to come out this week at all).

Sorry if this is a jumble, just trying to place my thoughts somewhere. I've never had to do this before and I feel guilty it wasn't better for us or him.

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kittyloss · 10/09/2024 23:12

flapjackfairy · 10/09/2024 15:07

I felt the same when my cat was put to sleep. He yelped when the needle went in and it broke me. I was haunted for a while but the memories do fade in time. Yours will too and you will remember the good times. We wanted to Bury our cat and the vet tried to hand me the cat carrier with the body in and I just couldn't do it. It didn't feel right taking a live cat in and taking a dead one home . I had to send DH the next day.
I think what you are feeling is v normal and to be expected. It is so hard to lose a loved pet and I am v sorry for your loss

I'm sorry you had that experience and thank you. I completely understand about not wanting take his body home. It felt weird enough bringing the empty carrier back.

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kittyloss · 10/09/2024 23:14

tsmainsqueeze · 10/09/2024 16:10

Hi , i'm a vet nurse , i'm sorry for your loss and the upset you feel .
Please don't feel guilty ,what you have done is the kindest thing we can do for a defenceless animal when they reach the end of their life a blessed choice that we have, no animal ever has to suffer because of this .
I have been present at countless euthanasia's and i truly believe that no pain is felt , the drug we use is an anaesthetic type drug that is very potent and quick acting, sadly some animals will slightly feel the needle ,similar to us having an injection or blood test ,along side being restrained however lightly by the nurse and perhaps a little fear or confusion some poor little souls will struggle and cry which i know is very distressing for the owner too.
sometimes a vet will sedate before the final injection but there is still an injection involved which again they may feel.
Usually within seconds of the drug entering the system the pet is unaware and then quickly passes , i'm sorry you didn't know this but animals eyes remain open always.
Even though the vet and nurse i'm sure did their very best with compassion in their hearts for your cat we cannot ever be 100% that things will go as smoothly as we hope and pray.
I know it is very raw for you now but I hope in time you think of your beloved friend with a smile and many happy memories.

Thank you for your insight as a vet nurse, it really helps to know this information. The eyes staying open is a small thing really and it feels less jarring now.

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kittyloss · 10/09/2024 23:16

BobbyBiscuits · 10/09/2024 16:13

I'm so sorry for your loss.
I had a bad experience also with my girl. They gave her benzos but had to double the dose. He then kept missing with the barbiturate shot. He was sweating and the cat was crying and really scared. He finally managed to go into her neck which was horrible. Then when I asked them if we could close her eyes after she'd passed, the vet said 'no, they go to heaven with their eyes open',?!
We didn't use that vet again.

I'm so sorry that happened to you and your little girl. It's not fair how it can be such a variable experience. I don't blame you for going to a different vet now. I'm sure the vet was stressed and it doesn't always go well but I wouldn't want similar to happen again.

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kittyloss · 10/09/2024 23:18

Deebee90 · 10/09/2024 16:28

I’m so sorry for your loss . Sadly euthanasia isn’t pleasant. We had to put our dog down last year and it was the worse experience for us. They didn’t give him sedation and he fought the anaesthetic. His eyes didn’t automatically close either and to make it worse after his passed his stomach was shaking and he was panting and he pooed . Took me months to get over the guilt but to me he’s in a better place and you will eventually feel the same.

That sounds a horrible experience, I'm sorry. I'm glad you have found some peace with it.

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kittyloss · 10/09/2024 23:19

Cookerhood · 10/09/2024 16:28

I had the same experience a month ago. The took him away to put a cannula in but brought him back for the injection. I held him & he struggled as it went in. It was horrible & I haven't told the rest of the family. I do know we did the right thing though, I just wish he hadn't struggled in that moment.

Yes, it seems a small thing but it's so amplified in the moment and immediately afterwards. I feel better about it today but it's just difficult to remember that.

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kittyloss · 10/09/2024 23:22

GodspeedJune · 10/09/2024 16:31

I’m so sorry for your loss and that it wasn’t as peaceful as hoped. The vet asking why you felt guilty seems callous. It’s a very common emotion after (and before) euthanasia.

My vet takes the animal out the back to site a cannula and administers a sedative. Then brings the pet back to the owners to be cuddled for the final injection. I would prefer to stay with them the whole time but it does seem very peaceful. I had last second doubts about euthanising my dog after the sedative but before the injection, and my vet kindly and sensitively reassured me. I’m really sorry you and your lovely cat didn’t have the best experience.

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I understand what the vet meant, as we had just discussed why it was the best course of action and she also followed up reiterating that it was. I also guess she sees this so often so it's just obvious what to do. I didn't really have a chance to explain that my feelings were complex.

That actually sounds quite nice of your vet, to get them sleepy ready to say goodbye.

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kittyloss · 10/09/2024 23:24

undripfeedswede · 10/09/2024 16:54

Sorry to read this. I had my 16 year old girl pts a few days ago and it's still very raw. Happy if you want to pm me to have a quick cat chat.

Our experience wasn't as yours but was traumatic for other reasons. I have experienced very different things at the point of having dogs and cats PTS so it's never predictable.

Hope you are ok. Flowers

Oh I'm so sorry you're going through similar. What happened to your girl? Yes PM me if you'd rather not put details here.

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kittyloss · 10/09/2024 23:28

REP22 · 10/09/2024 17:33

Bless your heart. I am so sorry for your loss. My beloved dog Jasper went with his eyes open too. It pierced my soul.

Please know that you did the right thing. Yes, he had that initial moment of discomfort but he would not have known it as receiving a punishment from you. He trusted you to do the right thing when it mattered most, and you did. You did not betray his trust, nor did you let him down.

It is a wretched thing to decide, worse to endure, and then your mind starts to prick at you once it is over. It's not fair. It's not fair that their lives are so short, compared to our own. But that last grim decision is an act of love. You fed him when he was hungry, soothed him when he was sad, sheltered him when he was cold. And when his pain became too much to endure, you loved him so much that you helped him out of it, in the only way you could.

Please also know that his absolute last, last moments of life will have been ones of peace, pain free, and comfort. It is the last loving gift you could have given him, even though it broke your heart.

I've had to make the decision for four dogs in my life. I also used to work at an emergency vets and have held and comforted more pets and owners in those moments than I can count. It never got any easier; each one was an act of love, kindness and compassion, but a tragedy nonetheless. Vets and Vet Nurses are in the business of making animals better - it's a sorrow for them too, when the only thing that will make things better is this. It was also my experience - without exception - that the pet then at peace continued to be treated with respect and dignity once the owners had gone.

It's nice that you are having a private cremation and his remains back. I did that with my dogs. I have not been able to scatter them, I am not mawkish but just prefer to have them somewhere close by. Perhaps you could plant a rosebush or sow some forget-me-not seeds to remember him by?

I know you feel awful at the moment, like someone has ripped out your insides and is now slowly stamping on them in front of your eyes, probably. But you did the right thing. You spoke up for him because he had not the voice nor the strength to do it for himself. You did not let him down when he needed you the most. Bless you for doing the hardest, most awful, but most loving thing that you could have done for him in his time of desperate need.

I'm sure he had a wonderful life with you, and all the happy times you gave him.

I hope that at least some small part of what I have written is helpful. Sending love. I'm so sorry that you've lost your friend. 💐x

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Thank you for this lovely post, I'm sorry for your loss as well.

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kittyloss · 10/09/2024 23:29

Judystilldreamsofhorses · 10/09/2024 20:23

Oh OP, I am so sorry. We had our girl pts in April and she yelped the vet injected her. I don’t know what happened but the vet then actually did take her out and sedate her before bringing her back and us finally saying goodbye. It was awful but she had intestinal lymphoma and while we could have tried chemo and steroids the prognosis was very poor (treating to prolong her life rather than cure her) and I know we did the right thing by her. She slipped away with the people who loved her after a day of eating her favourite food and lying in the garden - no more pain. I hope when my time comes I can say the same. We miss her so much.

We have her ashes in an urn on the hearth with a framed photo of her, so she keeps an eye on the orange menace we now have. I got the vet to take paw prints and had one tattooed a few weeks later so she is always with me.

Take care of yourself, it is horrible but you did the last good thing for or lovely cat.

I'm sorry for your loss and that experience. It sounds like the best decision for her too. Thank you.

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Arctangent · 10/09/2024 23:29

Oh, I'm so so sorry. I'm crying for you and your boy.

I've never been in this situation although I've lost a cat before. He was my childhood pet and I was racing to get home in time from another county. I was about ten minutes away and I had this strong feeling that he'd gone and I was too late. I arrived and my mum confirmed that I was just ten minutes late.

I felt so guilty for years. I do even now that I couldn't be there to say goodbye.

It must have been awful for you and it breaks my heart to read that it was distressing for you. You were there though. He knew you were there xx

kittyloss · 10/09/2024 23:30

Candaceowens · 10/09/2024 20:27

I'm so sorry you had such a sad experience, the loss of a pet is heartbreaking. Can I suggest you ask for a trigger warning as the details are graphic and it was too distressing for me to read any further.

Yes, I will ask. My apologies.

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kittyloss · 10/09/2024 23:32

Thank you to everyone, sorry I didn't respond to all individually. Every one of your comments has been helpful today. My boy had a sister who wasn't bonded to him and just tolerated him really, but even she seems a bit confused and restless today and I think is wondering where he is.

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BobbyBiscuits · 10/09/2024 23:37

@kittyloss ah, thank you so much. That's very kind. And it's so true that experiences vary a lot. PTS is never going to be pleasant and I don't think the vet did it badly on purpose.
I hope you're able to focus on the lovely life your beautiful cat had with you. And they're at peace now. And your other lovely little cat will be missing her brother in her own way, so give her plenty of cuddles and treats.
You deserve those too. Human treats obviously, lol X

Judystilldreamsofhorses · 10/09/2024 23:39

kittyloss · 10/09/2024 23:30

Yes, I will ask. My apologies.

I think the title makes it very clear what the post is about, and it really doesn’t need a trigger warning.

Roryno · 10/09/2024 23:44

So sorry for your loss. Try to be kind to yourself. You did the right thing for him. He won’t have known anything more than a split second. Some vets say they don’t sedate because occasionally it can slow down the process of euthanasia. It’s more for the owner’s benefit. And it’s normal for the eyes not to close and have a glassy effect. It’s sad enough, don’t torture yourself. Try to focus on memories.

kittyloss · 11/09/2024 00:49

Judystilldreamsofhorses · 10/09/2024 23:39

I think the title makes it very clear what the post is about, and it really doesn’t need a trigger warning.

Thank you, I hoped so but have requested a trigger warning just in case!

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RosiePosiee · 11/09/2024 01:35

We had to say goodbye to a wonderful rescue dog who was severely beaten and malnourished, after 2 months of nearly daily vet visits we did an x ray and it showed lung mets and we made the decision for him.

It was Covid so we had to do it outside on the grass and at the same time as we were saying goodbye to dear Keith, a family who's car had broken down near the vets came and ate a Burger King behind us. Just on the grass having a picnic. It was so inappropriate and I did complain. The vets apologised and didn't charge us for the euthanasia.

I'm so sorry for your loss.

RosiePosiee · 11/09/2024 01:36

Candaceowens · 10/09/2024 20:27

I'm so sorry you had such a sad experience, the loss of a pet is heartbreaking. Can I suggest you ask for a trigger warning as the details are graphic and it was too distressing for me to read any further.

Get a grip. It's very clear what the thread is about. No trigger warning is needed Hmm

mm81736 · 11/09/2024 06:12

It is a very kind thing you did fir your cat at great emotional cost to you.

Pudmyboy · 11/09/2024 09:10

How are you feeling today @kittyloss ?

kittyloss · 11/09/2024 09:20

Pudmyboy · 11/09/2024 09:10

How are you feeling today @kittyloss ?

Hello, thank you for checking in. I'm ok. Just thinking how I miss him. I'm slowly feeling better about it all, I know he was sick and wouldn't get better. It feels so strange that he's just gone. I keep getting random moments where it hurts when I remember him lying on the table at the vet. I'm also very tired. Overall I'm just trying to think of what he would be doing in heaven or whatever is equivalent. I'm not religious but am open-minded about the afterlife and spiritual things. I hope he has his favourite toy as a kitten he used to play fetch with. And that he found some kittens taken too soon to play with up there. His sister has been wandering about a fair amount and goes from one room to another so I think she's looking for him in some way. And she comes to us for reassurance I think. She is vocal when she wants attention and purrs loudly but otherwise very quiet when she walks around the house so it's all a bit quiet!

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bouncydog · 11/09/2024 23:02

@kittyloss im so sorry you experienced this. Our 16 year old (at least as she was adopted by us so we have no way of knowing) lady fell ill on Friday evening. Deteriorated overnight so in vets from first thing Saturday morning. They did absolutely everything they could for her but her quality of life going forwards would not be good as she had fluid around her heart and although it had been drained it had recurred. She could not have tolerated going to the vet each week for any procedure so we confirmed the decision we had reached as a family and she was put to sleep yesterday. Our vet brought her in to us in a blanket and I held her and cuddled her, the injection went into the cannula and she was gone within 10 seconds. I’m so glad she went peacefully and I held her as she knew we were there and she was very loved. Like you, I feel very bereft and keep thinking about what she is doing now. Hopefully making her prescience known at rainbow bridge!

Roryno · 12/09/2024 18:47

Hope you’re feeling ok today.

We always plant a little tree or bush over our deceased pets. We’re lucky that we have lots of land, but even ashes in the bottom of a pot with soil and a nice plant on top would work. I find myself going saying hello to the tree quite a lot initially, and find it comforting that they are still growing into something else permanent.

purser25 · 12/09/2024 19:10

So sorry to hear about your cat. I was with one of ours the vet told me to stroke him and talk to him. He is buried in the garden with a favourite toy and a blanket. We do the same with all our cats. I remember the father saying we were putting so much in with one cat there wouldn’t be room for the cat.

Saturdayblurs · 12/09/2024 19:12

Yes I learned it’s not like the movies, where you can gently close their eyes once they have passed. They stay open. It was very distressing but the right decision. We do these things out of love for them, not because it’s easy on us. It’s bloody miserable.

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