Help me choose a cat

[Rainyrunway]

So we recently lost a beautiful Siamese to the road. It's nuts as we live on a super quiet road where cars drive around 5 miles an hour. It's like a farm track. Travel in one direction and it's like this for about a quarter of a mile. Travel the other way and there's a regular residential road. Not particularly busy and has speed humps so cars can't drive fast. But somehow he got hit.
It's left a big whole in our lives. We still have our moggy but we miss the outgoing dog like personality of the Siamese He was my third, the others lived till old age. I do genuinely think it was a freak accident since I've had other cats while living here and there are always cats out and about but I couldn't bare for it to happen again. So we're thinking of getting a kitten with a similar personality, thinking another Siamese, maybe a Balinese, a Tonkinese or a Birman. But we can't cat proof our garden because of the layout. So we would like to try and figure out if any of those cat types would a) be happy to be an indoor cat This might be tricky as my moggy goes out but never goes further than 3 gardens away (she has a tracker) or b) could be trusted to have a reasonably small range like moggy or have street smarts.
Would any of those cat types fit our criteria? Does anyone know?
Thank you!!!

Ragdolls and Birman are much indoor cats and will not likely be a lively, outdoor moggy. They are floppy, lazy, big , and very fluffy so need combing. 😍

Thanks, yes I have heard they are good for indoor but are they similar in personality to the Oriental cats? I basically want a cat that thinks it's a dog 😁

Hopeful bump for advice :))

My rag dolls follow me around, sit on my lap, play fetch, run to greet me when I walk in, roll over in front of my feet for belly rubs and lethally run down the stairs when I get up threatening to trip me everyday. They sleep at my feet on my bed at night. If you get up whilst they are sleeping on your lap they will wait and just get back on when you sit again- not judge you as a failure of an overlord for not remaining in position. So whilst I've never had a Siamese nor a dog, they feel quite dog like to me. My moggy has the proper decorum of a cat and her disdain of these clumsy love desperate idiots is palpable. And of course I love her just as much as the floofy goofy pair.

Burmese can be very dog like, and of course classic orientals. DBro & DSiL have had a few over the years and they have always been full of character. Theirs are indoor only though, as apparently they are so friendly they go up to any stranger in the street so are very easily stolen.

I gather many Maine Coons can be pretty dog like, though of course physically they are very different from the oriental breeds and they can take up the same amount of room as a large dog!

Another possible option, if you're happy for the right one to come along, is to go down the rescue route. Kittens are lovely and the breed can be a decent indicator of temperament in general, but you do never know how they will grow up. A rescue of about a year old or more should have become pretty fixed in it's temperament so you know what you are getting. And not all rescues are street cats, ferals or mistreated, some have to be rehomed due to changes in circumstances like death, divorce or emigrating by the owners.

There are also specific breed rescues, though again there can be quite a wait for the right cat to come in to them.

Burmese are a type I was considering. Do you think they'd fit the bill for either staying indoors happily (even if moggy is allowed out) / not wandering far if they do go out (moggy only goes a couple of gardens away) / or being sensible enough to have street smarts?
Same goes for Ragdolls really. I can't stand the idea of losing another cat to the road.
I don't really want another moggy. I absolutely love Girl cat but honestly she's really not interested in humans except at dinner time. Me and DH are far too needy. I want a cat that needs me back 😁

Our radgoll is beyond adorable. VERY empathetic. If one of us is upset, she comes over and "kneeds" us. And when my DW was in bed with a migraine, the cat lay down on the bed next to her AND DID NOT MOVE ALL DAY!!!

Asa well as cuddles, she loves to play - chase games, "fetch" and "find daddy" which is a variation on hide and seek.

Have to say I'm a fan. Like a dog but sweet-smelling and no need for walkies! But do NOT let a raggy go outside!!!

BTW they are HUGE....

I remember DBro & DSiL deciding after a year that they would offer their first Burmese the option of going outside on leads. Harness training went well, and come the day they had chosen (bright, sunny, warm but not hot) they opened the patio doors. Cats went up to the edge, looked at each other in horror, & sat down refusing to move. DSiL picked up the bolder cat & went a few steps into the garden & put her down. Immediate panic from the cat as she shot back inside.

They made many attempts at offering the cats the chance to go out, but both bluntly refused. They haven't bothered with subsequent cats!

Persians are just the best. Low maintenance, affectionate, sweet and gentle. Not very bright.

My Persian cross is far from low maintenance, in terms of her coat. I wouldn't get another one, personally.

My neighbour had a Birman that was just like a soft floppy teddy bear. I adored him! He would come in and cuddle under the duvet with me

I think I got lucky with my two long haired. Both really easy to manage, with 3 monthly grooms. Though I know some have really tricky cottony coats.

@Toddlerteaplease you really have been. I see Cheddar especially has a shorter style coat, cutie that he is. Mine is extra long and fluffy, although he is only half Persian. He needs a lot of attention to his coat at the vet, and has proven expensive!

My groomer costa more than my hair dresser.

I have short haired orientals. Fab personality.
Mine go out, but as a breed they're often kept indoors. You have to provide them with a really good environment if they are indoor cats though as they're athletic and curious.
My most streetwise cats are my moggies though. I used to live in fear of my previous oriental boycat being stolen as he was so friendly and lived getting in cars! Current pair are less friendly to strangers.

@Beamur I LOVE orientals. Love them. But do you think one would cope being indoor? I always let my cats out before. I've had 3 Orientals, 2 Siamese and 1 OLH over the years. This is the first time I've lost one to a road and it was awful.

Oriental shorthair 😍 one of my favourite breeds, but I have hit my cat quota (3) so I can’t have one. Please get one for me!

Burmese females can often like to stay around the house. The males are very intrepid and can have big territories.

Personally I don’t agree with keeping cats inside and have never had problems with my Burmese going out.

I think having one cat going out and one not is going to be a bigger issue than which breed tbh.

Yes. That’s not going to work. But a Burmese female is highly unlikely to go further than the current cat. Mine have always stuck to the garden.

Bengals think they are God's, never mind wanting to be a dog. They are very vocal but often don't tolerate other cats. They like to go out into the garden to climb. They have bags of personality though. My son has one. Rag dolls are good indoor cats. They are often a bit dopey and hopeless with roads. My neighbour has one that literally sits in the middle of the road in our cul does sac and does not move for cars. I've seen drivers jump out of their car, pick up and move the cat then drive on. This cat can be a bit of a princess.

I have a blue oriental you can have absolutely NO returns. She'll destroy your self esteem with one look. My Siamese is also faulty. My mog is an actual normal cat.

Maine coons are quite dog-like. Mine used to play fetch.

I've had a Siamese, a Tonkinese and now have an Oriental, all of them have been indoor (although we have an enclosed garden)

A Burmese would be great. They have similar personality types to orientals I think. Only problem is resident cat is a girl and I think getting a second female is likely to be asking for fights isn't it? I would be tempted to get a female generally because they do tend to stay close by more than males I believe but I just don't think my beautiful girl would tolerate not being the queen.