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Help me choose a cat

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Rainyrunway · 17/05/2023 16:03

So we recently lost a beautiful Siamese to the road. It's nuts as we live on a super quiet road where cars drive around 5 miles an hour. It's like a farm track. Travel in one direction and it's like this for about a quarter of a mile. Travel the other way and there's a regular residential road. Not particularly busy and has speed humps so cars can't drive fast. But somehow he got hit.
It's left a big whole in our lives. We still have our moggy but we miss the outgoing dog like personality of the Siamese He was my third, the others lived till old age. I do genuinely think it was a freak accident since I've had other cats while living here and there are always cats out and about but I couldn't bare for it to happen again. So we're thinking of getting a kitten with a similar personality, thinking another Siamese, maybe a Balinese, a Tonkinese or a Birman. But we can't cat proof our garden because of the layout. So we would like to try and figure out if any of those cat types would a) be happy to be an indoor cat This might be tricky as my moggy goes out but never goes further than 3 gardens away (she has a tracker) or b) could be trusted to have a reasonably small range like moggy or have street smarts.
Would any of those cat types fit our criteria? Does anyone know?
Thank you!!!

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Floralnomad · 19/05/2023 10:45

Our son has a pair of Siamese that are very happy indoors with access to a catio during the day .

Rainyrunway · 19/05/2023 10:50

I don't want a catio and unfortunately I don't think we can properly cat proof the garden either. We have a high deck outside the back door with steps down to the rest of the garden so the fence around the decking is the same height as boundary fencing which means it wouldnt be possible to get the 6 foot all the way around that's needed. DH is trying to persuade me to get another Oriental cat and just keep it indoors till it's slightly older, and make sure we have a tracker on its collar. I'm not sure though. I think that might work if we got another girl but boys just wander further don't they?

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Rainyrunway · 19/05/2023 10:56

Ok I've just found this on Google which is giving me hope.

Generally, female cats tend to be more accepting of new cats into their home. They are more likely to accept another female cat than a male cat. When living wild, female domestic cats will form colonies if food is abundant enough to support them. They will live as a group with other females of their family, and share resources and responsibilities for raising kittens (5).

Anyone know if this is nonsense?

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Mirabai · 19/05/2023 10:57

You don’t need to cat proof the garden. I think you were just very unlucky with your Siamese. A female Burmese, Birman, Tonkinese isn’t likely to stray far from the house.

A female kitten with your existing female should be fine. A male would be likely to pitch up and dominate the existing female and want to be top cat - been there done that.

silentpool · 19/05/2023 11:05

Persian - my boy is full of personality and so cuddly. The long hair is more work but I just take any knots off with a pair of clippers - I don't pay for a groomer 😂

Catsservant · 19/05/2023 11:07

I have a male Burmese who goes outside. He’s a lovely cat follows you around crying wanting to snuggle into you constantly. I also have a British short hair but he’s very aloof and is only happy to be stroked when he wants food. I would only get a Burmese agains they are amazing, very soft silky fur and adore their human servant 😊

Rainyrunway · 19/05/2023 11:12

Here is a pic of my girl (back) relaxing with her "brother" who we sadly lost to the road. We miss him so much 🥺

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Rainyrunway · 19/05/2023 11:13

@Mirabai that's interesting you've found female / female works better. It's giving me hope.

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Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 19/05/2023 11:23

OP, you have been very unlucky. I have every sympathy, I loved my two Siamese, they were indeed doggy, one used to insist on coming to the supermarket with me ( she stayed in the car, of course)

BUT, what you want is that Siamese thing, and that comes with being a bit venturesome, at least in their youth. They are smart, they like to be stimulated, they are not big soft couch sitters ( though good lap cats once they are in).

I think you need to be bold, and try again. Not everyone likes Siamese, but if you do, there is no substitute. and they need people who ‘get’ them.

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Rainyrunway · 19/05/2023 11:32

@Allthegoodnamesarechosen your cat is beautiful ❤️ here is another one of my gorgeous boy

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Mirabai · 19/05/2023 13:00

Awww he’s so beautiful. I had a red Burmese boy.

Allergictoironing · 19/05/2023 13:02

Thank you for the cat tax pics, they are/were gorgeous.

When one of DBro's old cats (both female) died, they rehomed a M/F pair of Burmese siblings. All was fine until the remaining old cat died, then the male decided he wanted to be an only cat and eventually he had to be rehomed again. They replaced him with a rescue female cat, who gets on with their remaining Burmese exceptionally well. So adding another female to an existing one can often work out as well or even better than adding a male.

It very much depends on the individual cats of course. But I've also heard that kittens or young cats can integrate with an existing cat better as they tend to accept that the older cat is the boss.

deeplybaffled · 19/05/2023 13:08

I have a female Siberian forest cat. Mine isn’t especially dog like ( although likes water) but I believe many of the breed play fetch etc.

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testtrout · 19/05/2023 13:14

I have had a birman in the past and he was adamant he was not a house cat, and he really wasn't he was a massive hunter and actually quite aloof really. We originally had him as a house cat but he was an escape artist so we gave up and moved somewhere safe and let him have some freedom. He was fine going out btw but not personality wise like the Orientals, only liked us and would be seen regularly walking around with a headless rabbit in his mouth. As he was so distinctive everyone knew we had a homicidal cat. He was lovely but I don't want another.
I have also had Burmese and these are truly fantastic cats, mine go out but stay close by. Very dog like and affectionate great personality but not as loud as Siamese.
Burmese are my true love, mine has a nasty habit of stealing clothes though ( naigbours underwear) so not perfect.

learieonthewildmoor · 19/05/2023 17:34

I would get a female kitten, rather than an older cat. Much easier to introduce a kitten and females are easier to keep indoors.

billydilly · 19/05/2023 17:48

We have a lot of cats but our Burmese is Top Cat. Very outdoorsy (we live in Brighton so not quiet at all) but extremely street smart. He's an urban legend in our area, I recently discovered that one of our neighbours had created a FB page for our boy, many fans!

Beamur · 19/05/2023 22:05

i think you need to be bold, and try again. Not everyone likes Siamese, but if you do, there is no substitute. and they need people who ‘get’ them
I reckon once you've had oriental cats no other cat quite is the same.
On my experience adding female cats to resident females is really hard work. They're very territorial..if you have a female, I would get a new male kitten.

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