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Kitten won't clean himself after pooing

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SeeyouontheothersideofCovid · 18/12/2020 11:41

Hello

I hope some of you can help with some advice and encouragement as we are really struggling to deal with our six month old kitten (neutered male). He is used to going outside and no longer uses the litter tray. We acquired him when he was eight weeks old, which in retrospect I wonder if he had fully learnt all he needed from his mother? He is a short-haired tabby.

On and off he has had problems with loose stools (dumping suddenly in the house, very soft and like gravy) and we have taken advice from the vet at all times. He has been on pro-kolin and is now on a diet of half wet and dry (wet Royal Canin and dry Jameswellbeloved). He seems to be happy enough with his diet. He is also up to date with flea prevention and worming tablets.

But, he comes back in, with dried poo around his anus and stuck in his tail, and the tail itself has poo in it (not lumps but just, I don't know, poo juice?) Between us we try to clean off as much as we can with sensitive baby wipes but he absolutely hates it and we can never clean him properly as he tries to get away as fast as he can. Not that I blame him of course.

So we're living with our kitten that perpetually has poo attached, and he's all over our house, carpets and soft furnishings. Sometimes he scoots across the floor. When we find any evidence of poo we clean it up but the situation has become very distressing for all of us (me, my husband and the young kitten). It's now getting to the point I feel I can't cope. I'm worried about poo being all over the house (as we can't clean him properly), the health implications and the thought of having to deal with this for as long as he's with us is quite frankly just an awful prospect.

We have decided to put him back onto the pro-kolin as previously this seem to settle the poo issue down, but will we need to do this all the time? If so, fine, we will do it. The other thing is, will he magically turn into a fully-grown cat that cleans his bottom properly? At the moment, he grooms himself generally but pays very scant attention to his testicles and bottom/tail. The cat we previously had was very fastidious in that department and we had no issues at all with her. So when we acquired our new kitten we weren't prepared that his toilet habits would become such a major issue.

Any advice, please? I have been scouring the internet for ideas and also left a message with the Cats Protection League. At the moment we're thinking we will try and hang on until he's a year old (give him a chance to grow into an adult cat) but if this situation remains a constant theme we will probably think about re-homing him. Which would be really sad as in all other aspects he's a lovely pet.

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dementedpixie · 18/12/2020 13:24

Sounds like his poo is still not solid. Could you try grain free food (Royal canin is full of grains) and see if it helps

SeeyouontheothersideofCovid · 18/12/2020 13:37

Thanks Demented. The vet suggested trying Royal Canin and said whatever you do, don't change his diet. I will bear that in mind though for later on, or in case the pro-Kolin doesn't work this time.

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dementedpixie · 18/12/2020 13:39

I wouldn't say royal canin is a particularly good food at all tbh. Wonder if the vets get commission for getting people to buy it!

AnnaMagnani · 18/12/2020 13:56

Honestly I'd so be changing his food. Cats don't really need to clean their bums as they should be producing a formed poo that doesn't need any wiping.

He's on the wrong food if he keeps getting a runny tummy.

Yarnivore · 18/12/2020 14:06

A change of food should sort it. My latest rescue came to me on Purina One, which wouldn't be my first choice of food but as she does perfect and non-smelly poos I'm sticking with it!

Does he still have a litter tray too?

Fluffycloudland77 · 18/12/2020 14:12

I’d check if his food is cereal free, maize protein gave ours the most awful loose stools.

Mincepiesallyearround · 18/12/2020 14:27

We’ve got a similarly aged boy kitten. He’s not allowed out yet and quite often faffs around in the litter tray and then stands in his own poo and tracks it onto the floor and anywhere else he goes. It’s so grim. But he doesn’t make a fuss about being cleaned although it can take two of us...are you gripping him firmly by his scruf? Mine kind of submits once I’ve got a good grip on him there. I usually hold him as I’m more confident around animals and my husband attacks with the wet wipes. How is he if he uses a littler tray? The same issue? If not maybe keep him in for a while until you’ve sorted his diet out. Ours is on HiLife chicken pouches but he gets the runs if we change his diet slightly (eg a brand of biscuits he’s not had before)

Toddlerteaplease · 18/12/2020 15:03

Get the vet nurses to give him a hygiene Trim as well as changing his diet. My cats got on well with Royal canin, but It made Cheddar very sick. So mine are on Iams vitality and that's sorted her out.

Laiste · 18/12/2020 15:05

Royal canin wet food gave my kitten the runs.

Once we took him off that (and on to a dry high protein food) it all firmed up and he could cope with cleaning himself.

DragonLegs · 18/12/2020 15:09

Why can’t you change the diet if that one isn’t working? I agree with the previous posters that you need to eliminate grains as the first step to see if he can do solid poos, plus get the hair around that area trimmed for hygiene reasons in the meantime.

SeeyouontheothersideofCovid · 18/12/2020 16:44

Oh heck, I've had so much conflicting advice. Some of my friends said as soon as they went onto Royal Canin their cats functioned well on it, and so we took him off his existing food to move onto RC (at that time the vet said to stick with RC rather than change it). I certainly think that our kitten does not cope well with any changes in his routine so I would be reluctant to change his food at this time.

Interesting advice about gripping him by the scruff - I will see if i can find a video on YT to see how it's done. That is the problem he really hates being cleaned and wriggles, meows and hisses like fury (though to begin with he does tolerate it).

He's so lovely, just been on my lap for a cuddle but definitely he's a bit whiffy. My husband's been great at keeping on top of cleaning any poo around the house and encouraging us both to remain calm. Please tell me it will get easier!

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dementedpixie · 18/12/2020 16:57

The poo should be firm enough that it doesn't leave residue anywhere unless they are quite fluffy and then you could get little streaks of poo but not to the extent you are describing. If your cat can't tolerate grains then RC is the worst food for them as it does contain them. If you were to use something else you would introduce it gradually to minimise stomach issues.

DrDetriment · 18/12/2020 16:59

My cat was like this and I swapped her to grain free James wellbeloved. We are now down to the very occasional pooey bottom but it's very rare.

StylishMummy · 18/12/2020 17:00

We use Applaws 100% Tuna wet food and their dry food is about 80% meat content. Cats are obligate carnivores so the higher the meat content - the better. I agree with PP that royal canin is not a good food, it's only about 40% meat, which is low.

I'd gradually shift to a higher meat diet, as that should help settle his stomach. Dealing with poo is awful if it's everyday so you have my sympathies

Yarnivore · 18/12/2020 17:03

I'd also suggest not using baby wipes as they will taste grim and possibly deter him from cleaning. A damp/wet flannel would be better.

DragonLegs · 18/12/2020 17:04

I wouldn’t swap the diet over straight away, just reduce the rc a tiny bit and then add the new one in small amounts

SantasBritchesSpelleas · 18/12/2020 17:05

Second the grain free James Wellbeloved recommendation.

Has he been checked for a giardia infection?

Bargebill19 · 18/12/2020 17:10

Grab him by the scruff like his mum would do. They automatically go limp. (Back of his neck).

LizB62A · 18/12/2020 21:13

Is there any chance that someone else is feeding him, maybe giving him milk? That might explain the poo situation....

SeeyouontheothersideofCovid · 19/12/2020 07:24

It's hell here today. Cat very smelly and poo residue everywhere. We will phone the vets as soon as they are open, going to try another vet for a 2nd opinion as our usual one can't seem to get to the bottom of it (no apologies here for a really poor pun).

We tried to clean him and he is absolutely caked in it and as you can imagine is now really distressed. Managed to remove some of the debris but there is still a lot left. We can only think of confining him to our bathroom with his cat tower, food and toys until we can get him to the vets some time this morning.

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Fluffycloudland77 · 19/12/2020 08:23

Put him on boiled chicken breast. He must be suffering.

SeeyouontheothersideofCovid · 19/12/2020 08:27

Fluffy, we did ask the vet two weeks ago about feeding him chicken but she didn't seem to think it was a good idea. Unfortunately the particular vet on duty was difficult to communicate with (language thing). That's why we're going to try another vet to get a 2nd opinion, including what we should do about his diet.

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Fluffycloudland77 · 19/12/2020 08:31

Chicken, or white fish, is usually standard advice in this situation. Mine had issue with cereals all his life and would eat other cats food then get poorly.

Chicken always sorted him out.

FlyingFlamingo · 19/12/2020 08:31

Another recommendation to change the food.

My cat has a neurological condition but she did the most horrendous poos partly due to it, we tried Iams, Ava and Royal Canin before settling on Applaws which was a game changer. She’s now on Purizon which also suits her, and Blink or Rosies Farm (Zooplus version of Lily’s Kitchen) for the wet. The vet who diagnosed her was happy to see her in such good condition at her last check up.

dementedpixie · 19/12/2020 08:32

He's awfully young to only be doing the toilet outside already at 6 months. I'd get a litter tray and keep him indoors so you can see the texture of the poo he is doing and how he covers it up.

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