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Kitten won't clean himself after pooing

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SeeyouontheothersideofCovid · 18/12/2020 11:41

Hello

I hope some of you can help with some advice and encouragement as we are really struggling to deal with our six month old kitten (neutered male). He is used to going outside and no longer uses the litter tray. We acquired him when he was eight weeks old, which in retrospect I wonder if he had fully learnt all he needed from his mother? He is a short-haired tabby.

On and off he has had problems with loose stools (dumping suddenly in the house, very soft and like gravy) and we have taken advice from the vet at all times. He has been on pro-kolin and is now on a diet of half wet and dry (wet Royal Canin and dry Jameswellbeloved). He seems to be happy enough with his diet. He is also up to date with flea prevention and worming tablets.

But, he comes back in, with dried poo around his anus and stuck in his tail, and the tail itself has poo in it (not lumps but just, I don't know, poo juice?) Between us we try to clean off as much as we can with sensitive baby wipes but he absolutely hates it and we can never clean him properly as he tries to get away as fast as he can. Not that I blame him of course.

So we're living with our kitten that perpetually has poo attached, and he's all over our house, carpets and soft furnishings. Sometimes he scoots across the floor. When we find any evidence of poo we clean it up but the situation has become very distressing for all of us (me, my husband and the young kitten). It's now getting to the point I feel I can't cope. I'm worried about poo being all over the house (as we can't clean him properly), the health implications and the thought of having to deal with this for as long as he's with us is quite frankly just an awful prospect.

We have decided to put him back onto the pro-kolin as previously this seem to settle the poo issue down, but will we need to do this all the time? If so, fine, we will do it. The other thing is, will he magically turn into a fully-grown cat that cleans his bottom properly? At the moment, he grooms himself generally but pays very scant attention to his testicles and bottom/tail. The cat we previously had was very fastidious in that department and we had no issues at all with her. So when we acquired our new kitten we weren't prepared that his toilet habits would become such a major issue.

Any advice, please? I have been scouring the internet for ideas and also left a message with the Cats Protection League. At the moment we're thinking we will try and hang on until he's a year old (give him a chance to grow into an adult cat) but if this situation remains a constant theme we will probably think about re-homing him. Which would be really sad as in all other aspects he's a lovely pet.

OP posts:
SeeyouontheothersideofCovid · 20/12/2020 17:27

I did a bit of looking around on line, Lily's Kitchen range of cat foods seems to be grain free with a high ratio of meat in them. However if I change my cat's diet now, I'm uncomfortable that I am going against the vet's advice.

Yes, he was shaved yesterday at the vets, not the best No 1 I have ever seen (a bit lopsided with the old scissors) but he seems quite happy and gasp, shock, actually did some cleaning around his bottom today, so things are starting to look up.

We have some poo sample from Saturday but we haven't been able to get a sample today, for the vet to get the tests done next week. We got Saturday's sample as he used the litter tray but he refused to use this today and refused to go until we let him go outside.

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Fluffycloudland77 · 20/12/2020 17:31

Really you’ve got to try a different food and plain boiled chicken is very effective at calming their insides.

He’s not having any fun if his stomach is like that and he’s only got you to sort it out for him.

Fluffycloudland77 · 20/12/2020 17:36

icatcare.org/advice/diarrhoea/

I mean we wouldn’t like to lick our own shit off ourselves.

Fluffycloudland77 · 20/12/2020 17:41

I mean I do feel for you because I went through all this with the departed Bengal and there was little info 12 years ago about diet so I was on Bengal cat forum which is the scariest place in the world but I got it sorted by changing his diet off my own research.

He was nearly unconscious one night through dehydration and I thought he was going to die but I got fluids into him and he stayed with me but I was on my own that night and very frightened.

nearlynermal · 20/12/2020 17:48

Good job on the faecal test, OP. In your position I'd definitely be checking for giardia.

MyTwoBengals · 20/12/2020 17:49

I agree with a fluffy and all the others who have suggested plain chicken for a few days to calm his stomach.

I have had cats for many years and it is only in the last couple of years that I really looked into what is in most popular cat foods and found the high cereal content and other rubbish in them. I’d been happily feeding it for years thinking I was doing the right thing. I only started to research it when my cat suffered from hypothyroidism and was put in a high protein diet by my vet. I was cooking chicken breast and white fish for him. The cereal based dried food he had eaten for years was cut out completely.

My current two cats are bengals and were raw fed by their breeder. I have continued with this ( I use ready made frozen which includes offal and bone) and their poo is always firm and low smell.

Fluffycloudland77 · 20/12/2020 17:54

Which raw do you feed and how much per day @MyTwoBengals? My Asbo ate 4.5 pouches of gourmet a day, 5 if he conned dh at bedtime so I can’t get my head around feeding less.

I want to raw feed Asbo2 when the time comes to get another Bengal. I have a second freezer ready to go so I can keep it separate.

mooncakes · 20/12/2020 17:55

@SeeyouontheothersideofCovid

I did a bit of looking around on line, Lily's Kitchen range of cat foods seems to be grain free with a high ratio of meat in them. However if I change my cat's diet now, I'm uncomfortable that I am going against the vet's advice.

Yes, he was shaved yesterday at the vets, not the best No 1 I have ever seen (a bit lopsided with the old scissors) but he seems quite happy and gasp, shock, actually did some cleaning around his bottom today, so things are starting to look up.

We have some poo sample from Saturday but we haven't been able to get a sample today, for the vet to get the tests done next week. We got Saturday's sample as he used the litter tray but he refused to use this today and refused to go until we let him go outside.

I'm really surprised your vet has made any basic suggestions when your poor cat has had diahorrea for 6 months though!

I know vets really push the brands of food they sell, but still...

MyTwoBengals · 20/12/2020 17:57

I use Purrform tubs 450g My two fussy madams like the rabbit and turn their nose up at the other varieties.

www.purrform.co.uk/product-category/standard-range/450g-tubs/

I have also tried other brands such as natural instinct and nature’s menus but they don’t do rabbit flavour and the madams won’t eat it

Fluffycloudland77 · 20/12/2020 18:17

One tub per day? 😲

Blimey.

SimonJT · 20/12/2020 18:32

I’m far too tight to buy purrform!

MyTwoBengals · 20/12/2020 18:39

LOL Simon. I’m quite glad that they don’t have a taste for the quail variety at £6 a tub

SimonJT · 20/12/2020 18:59

@MyTwoBengals

LOL Simon. I’m quite glad that they don’t have a taste for the quail variety at £6 a tub
If a food is out of my acceptable price range I never ever buy it, so my poor cat doesn’t get a chance to try it.
AlaskaBird · 20/12/2020 19:22

Hello there, just another vote for plain chicken or white fish. I worked in a vet's surgery for a while years ago and boiling white fish for the cats with tender stomachs was part of my job!!

As for the lack of bottom cleaning, a kitten we had once didn't seem to know how to clean her bottom - she was rescued from a hoarder's house and probably didn't have enough time with her mother. Anyway, this is maybe not the best thing if it's a food intolerance with your cat but we put a tiny smear of butter around her bottom - after two or three times she seemed to get used to 'enjoying' cleaning that area!

Fluffycloudland77 · 20/12/2020 19:33

Cheaper to buy a rabbit and chuck it on the floor.

Bargebill19 · 20/12/2020 19:56

@Fluffycloudland77

Cheaper to buy a rabbit and chuck it on the floor.
😳😱
Fluffycloudland77 · 20/12/2020 20:03

Dead rabbit, obviously. You can buy them.

ChetChet · 20/12/2020 20:28

Your vet sounds a bit of a pain tbh.
Change the diet! My boy had sloppy poo that stuck to him. Changed to Purina sensitive (for sensitive digestion)and he still had sloppy poo. Changed to bozita and can't remember the other one - complete food that contains no grains, sugar, cereal or crap and the sloppy poo became as it should be. Formed, almost hard little lumps that he had no problem passing. Less odour to it as well.
It's the processed Royal Canin, OP. I bet you. Poor cat.

Yarnivore · 20/12/2020 21:11

The vet advice is odd, and tbh if the vet is a big Royal Canin fan I'd at least expect a recommendation to change to a RC sensitive/GI variety. Most cat staff owners would try different food/s before even going to the vets, because most times it sorts the problem. It really does seem crazy to medicate a cat for something where a simple diet change might sort it.

StartingGrid · 20/12/2020 21:20

Which Royal Canin food specifically is the cat on? Has the vet never suggested trying the gastrointestinal food?

SeeyouontheothersideofCovid · 22/12/2020 10:47

Our kitten is much better, so I have just bought some Lily's Kitchen cat food - high % meat content and also proclaims it's grain free.

Will start to move him gradually onto Lily's food, mixing a bit in with his current brand so the change is gradual.

Will be interesting to see what comes back from the faecal test analysis.

Thanks to you all for your support so far - one of the great things about this site :)

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MyTwoBengals · 22/12/2020 12:22

Hope he likes the Lily’s kitchen and it does the trick

Whatisapension · 23/12/2020 01:46

My vets are usually great but I find that when it’s diet related, not so much. Most of the food brands ‘recommended’ by vets are no different to the usual supermarket brands in terms of nutrition and ingredients.

Fingers crossed Lilys Kitchen improves things, but do check if it has sugar. One of my cats was like this for ages, and it gradually got worse. Tried lots of fancy food over the years, but she would only consistently eat Gourmet. Some of the higher meat content ones made her sick too, possibly too heavy or too high in fat for her? By chance, I tried Webbox which is sugar free and her poo has been solid and whiff free since!

She also occasionally has Sainsburys (So Delicious?) brand tins of fish and chicken, also sugar free, and is fine so I am assuming that was the cause.

No more stressful bum cleaning (for now atleast)

loubieloo4 · 23/12/2020 01:54

What you need is Eden food, it's bloody amazing. They can eat it from weaning onwards. It's not cheap but you only need a small amount of food each day so it lasts ages.

We had the same problem as you but with our puppy, the vet recommended Eden and with 12 hours her poos were normal and leaving no trace behind. Life changing for us.

It's the best food ever and gets brilliant reviews everywhere.

Highfalutinlootin · 23/12/2020 02:01

Just to chime in about food. As one previous person said, cats need taurine, which raw or fresh food like boiled chicken don't have. You'll always want to mix some processed food or supplements into their diet to get proper nutrition.

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