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TastingTheRainbow · 01/06/2019 21:52

I was watching the champions league but my little Bella decided to distract me by going into labour.

Here’s the first little arrival.

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TastingTheRainbow · 09/06/2019 18:49

@eachandeveryone It can be very expensive yes. I will keep my girls once they are too old, they have always been pets first and if they are ever not suitable to breed, or just too old now, they will stay with me still. I couldn’t bear to part with any of them.

Some breeders do rehome them once they can no longer breed as they need to make room for the new breeding cats but I’d rather stop breeding then do that. We have 3 girls now, 2 that are breeding and 1 that ‘might’ have a litter in the future depending on how she develops but our primary aim right now is to breed a lilac for show, once we’ve done that Bella (the only one capable of producing a lilac) in my opinion is done and can be neutered.

@allergictoironing That’s interesting. Almost every breed of cat has something that needs testing for so it’s interesting that dogs are the same. I imagine raising puppies is much harder! At least with cats the mum cat weans and litter trains the kittens without much input from me.

@watcherofthenight I’m also desperately hoping for a lilac. Lilac’s are quite difficult to get in Ragdoll’s as you need the kitten to inherit the chocolate gene and the dilute gene. The colour was almost lost in Ragdoll’s before we knew how it was inherited as seal and blue are dominant. Many breeders are now working to bring it back by breeding chocolate carriers to each other.

The colours can usually be seen around 3-4 weeks old. As they are colourpoint they are born white and the colour comes later, the colour develops in response to cold. As they are warm in the uterus they are white and as they get colder (once no longer snuggled up with mum 24/7) the colour develops on their legs, tail, ears and face as these areas are colder than the body. You can’t tell by their eyes as all Ragdoll’s have bright blue eyes no matter what their colour.

This photo is Bella’s last litter when they were 4 weeks old, you can see how the colour is starting to be visible on their noses and tail. The darker one is a seal and the lighter ones blue. Lilac is even lighter than that. It’s always exciting when you start to see what you’ve got.

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WatcherOfTheNight · 09/06/2019 19:28

Absolutely gorgeous!
I hope you keep updating & posting pics .

It seems very similar to breeding dogs .
They are DNA tested to make sure they are compatible .
They have a multitude of tests for health & genetic conditions ,and also for colour if you want .
Dogs can also carry stds so all matings are done by AI from tested & proven clear dogs .Then there is their temperament & form .It's expensive ,especially if they then have a caesarean .

There is more to it & now many people don't do this ,but that's a whole new thread Sad

Its lovely that you keep your cats when they no longer breed ,I don't know how people let them go ,they are family Smile

mimibunz · 09/06/2019 19:31

What a shame you are a breeder.

TastingTheRainbow · 09/06/2019 20:02

Why’s that? @mimibunz

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Silvercatowner · 09/06/2019 20:54

This thread is really interesting, @TastingTheRainbow. I had no idea it was so technical. The kittens are adorable! You are such a good role model for how it should be done.

TastingTheRainbow · 14/06/2019 22:42

Almost 2 weeks old now and they’ve all got eyes and ears open. We’ve got 2 that are definitely blue, you can see the colour starting to emerge on the nose and ears and 1 that could just be a lilac 🙏🏼🙏🏼 but hard to say at this age.

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xSharonNeedlesx · 15/06/2019 06:34

Oh they are the cutest little babies!

MustardScreams · 15/06/2019 06:43

Oh op they are just utterly scrumptious!

MogMogMog · 15/06/2019 07:26

Squeeeee!!!

So beautiful!!

Snog · 15/06/2019 09:23

Ooh I love rag dolls, so interesting to hear the inside line on their genetics! Hope you get your Lilac girl OP.

TastingTheRainbow · 18/06/2019 12:58

The possible lilac kitten has started to darken now so looking like a late developing blue rather than lilac which is a shame. It’s a hard colour to get so not uncommon that you don’t get any. Will repeat the mating in a year and hopefully get one then.

They are all looking like colourpoints as well and none seem to be mitted (white paws like mum). So we’re going to have 3 identical kittens. That will be fun telling them apart 😂

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MogMogMog · 18/06/2019 17:40

Never mind, better luck next time!
Do they all have homes?

TastingTheRainbow · 18/06/2019 19:15

Not yet, they are too young yet. I don’t advertise until they have had their first vet check as so much can happen when they are young. Plus it’s a long time until they are ready to go and I find people generally don’t wait that long and find something else sooner.

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TastingTheRainbow · 22/06/2019 20:54

3 weeks old today and have all put on good amounts of weight. They are starting to venture out a little more now and becoming more confident. They are starting to look more alike each day. Stunning girls!

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sneakypinky · 22/06/2019 21:05

I love them!

IkeaIsForWinners · 22/06/2019 21:14

😍😍😍😍

TastingTheRainbow · 25/06/2019 17:42

New thread as this one is almost full

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/the_litter_tray/3621826-Ragdoll-kittens-update-thread?watched=1

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