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littlemissM92 · 06/05/2017 07:59

Have a 8m old kitten he has just started going outside about 3 weeks ago and loves it thought this would mean him sleeping better at night.. it's almost worse! He will not be being let out at night so please no suggestions for that. He has free run of the house and some nights will sleep all night on our bed on spare bed but others oh my god grrrr he pisses around with phone chargers bites feet , will bring a sweet wrapper up from under sofa down stairs and play with it in bedroom... if it gets so bad I take him down stairs and shut door on to hallway but then he scratches door and pulls carpet back...
Have been up with him since 4.55 this morn in the lounge and he's perfectly happy when I'm here (partner in bed works v v long hours want him to have a lie in on a sat!)
If you've got this far thanku pls tell me I'm not alone and someone else's does this?!

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thecatneuterer · 06/05/2017 10:57

Get him a friend to play with?

Failing that just hang on in there. He is very young and he will calm down eventually.

Asmoto · 06/05/2017 11:04

It's normal kitten behaviour - he will soon calm down a bit. In the meantime, the best solution is to kitten-proof the house as much as you can and don't leave things out overnight that he will play with. He may be snoozing during the day if he's outside in the sun, so if you take some time to play actively with him before bedtime, that should help tire him out.

You've forgotten the mandatory kitten photo, by the way Wink

Want2beme · 06/05/2017 11:06

When I had young ones, I couldn't wait for them to grow up. I know that sounds awful, but they are so noisy and energetic and I just wanted to sleep at night without being disturbed too much.

Can you put him in a room at night, with all of his toys, food, bed, water and litter tray, which is distant from your bedroom and where he can play to his heart's content, until he collapses with exhaustion? You're right not to let him out at night. Would he like to watch birdy or cat videos?

Hope you manage to get some rest today. Little rascal!

littlemissM92 · 06/05/2017 11:31

Thanks all really helpful ! We have considered getting another kitten but he is much harder work than we expected don't get me wrong we adore him and he is so so well looked after plus he's made friends with next doors tabby so think he's ok. He gets so many strokes and picked up a lot but I am actively going to dangle his toys around whilst I'm sat on the sofa watching Corrie of an evening!

He looks huge on these but he is still really small in person he likes so sit like that on the bar stool while we eat dinner and I have to perch right on the edge of it safe to say whose bossGrin

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Asmoto · 06/05/2017 11:34

Aww - he's beautiful! He's just like my black boy when I got him as a kitten (he's now 17!).

JJmom16 · 06/05/2017 15:48

Jesus do people on here know nothing about kittens/cats.
It's normal !
Wish people would research first before getting a pet.

littlemissM92 · 06/05/2017 16:05

Jjmum16 don't be so patronising I know plenty about cats thank you had one before for 15 years but not from a kitten !! so In future keep your unhelpful rude comments to yourself !!

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littlemissM92 · 06/05/2017 16:06

Asmoto hope this little one lasts that long. Smile

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Papergirl1968 · 06/05/2017 16:07

Ahh, he's gorgeous, Op.
Sod off, JJ. My dcat was always very well behaved at night, but they're all different. No need to be so nasty.

littlemissM92 · 06/05/2017 16:13

Thanks paper I'm jealous of your well behaved one! Grin

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PuppyMonkey · 06/05/2017 16:18

Is there another downstairs safe and secure space he can stay locked in at night, somewhere you can't hear? Utility room? Conservatory? Back porch? Get a nice comfy bed for him and some toys?

Fiona1984 · 06/05/2017 16:23

We got our second cat at 10 weeks old, we've been lucky because he's mostly been very good. I can only remember a few nights when he woke me up. He seemed to quickly learn that nighttime is sleepy time.
My older cat I got at 2 years old, and she would cry at night or climb up my wardrobe etc. I don't think she liked it in my flat (neither did I, really). I tried to tire her out, and stop her sleeping during the day.
Now they both sleep at night, one behind the door and the other on my bed.

littlemissM92 · 06/05/2017 16:32

Going to try dining to tonight it's where his food is and a rocking chair (from picture) so I know he will go on it and there's no carpet in there for him to trash. It's going to be his first night without a litter tray too so going to feel double mean :( I feel bad because some nights he will sleep all night inbetween us in bed and then others he's a bugger!! X

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PuppyMonkey · 06/05/2017 18:15

Won't he need a litter tray if he can't go outside? Confused

littlemissM92 · 06/05/2017 18:33

No ive got advise of a cat behaviourist they are absolutely fine to go over night it's just training them he gets let out at 5am every day and to be honest his tray is very rarely dirty from over night so all good

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GingerKitCat · 06/05/2017 20:14

Get him a cat laser from ebay or wherever if he doesn't already have one, that'll tire him out!

Wolfiefan · 06/05/2017 20:16

Why no litter tray? He needs one if he's shut in all night.
Is he neutered?
Play before bedtime to tire him out.
Blackout blinds or curtains. They wake with the sunrise.

GingerKitCat · 06/05/2017 20:16

Or this if you want to go handsfree Grin

Frolicat bolt toy

GingerKitCat · 06/05/2017 20:26

I also think you should provide an overnight litter tray. Cat behaviourist all well and good but I it will cause him unecessary stress if he has an upset stomach or uti and is desperately trying to get out Sad

You can get hooded trays/ compact corner trays/ concealed trays now and you could shut it away out of sight during the day. Doesn't sound like you'll have to do much scooping/ replacing of litter either if he's an infrequent user Smile

PuppyMonkey · 06/05/2017 20:32

Not as if a litter tray is a huge hassle, and if he doesn't use it - you won't have anything to clear up. Hurrah.

GingerKitCat · 06/05/2017 20:43

ps my cat is nocturnal, probably not what you want to hear! He has a nice, long powernap in the evening then heads out Grin He gets shut in the kitchen overnight with his bed, cat tower, food and cat flap. I come down in the morning to find him fast asleep, it's very cute!

As a PP suggested can you shut him away at night with all his stuff? I favour the kitchen as it's tiled and wipe-clean if there are any accidents (!) and there's less stuff to shred/ break. I couldn't cope with giving mine the run of the house overnight!

Can you get him a nice tall cat tower/ scratching post if he doesn't have one already? I hear indoor cats really like to get up high (so they can lord it over you no doubt) and he'd burn off some energy hurtling up and down it. Many of the towers are not really very tall, I'd go for one that's at least 5ft high (you can get ones that attach to the ceiling too). I have the Trixie Alicante (bought on ebay I recall) which His Lordship approves of. It's placed in front of the kitchen window/ glass door so he can scope out the neighbourhood Wink

Zooplus and Amazon have a good selection. Pets At Home is a bit overpriced imo.

littlemissM92 · 06/05/2017 20:51

Purple. Am ok for the sarcasm I've had a cat for 15 years and she always went out through the day in at night no cat flap she Never had an accident once. They are very clean animals.

Ginger that made me smile he does go out through the day I'm going to pop him in dining room as it's where his food and water and rocking chair with blanket is now it's wooden floor just incase he has an accident and hopefully won't hear him from upstairs x

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Fluffycloudland77 · 06/05/2017 21:09

Mine still gets up at 4:30am so I lock him in the utility overnight. He has a bed, water, food tray etc so it's comfy for him.

I need my sleep.

GingerKitCat · 06/05/2017 21:19

I would honestly get him a hooded tray, what have you got to lose Grin I think it's one of those things that goes with being a responsible cat owner. Providing a good diet, looking after his health and taking him to the vet when required Smile You could get your vet's opinion, see what they advise?

I didn't realise you had a cat for 15yrs prior. All I can say is all cats are different Grin Especially males and females anecdotally. This one sounds like he's going to keep you busy Grin

What did you think of the links? Are you convinced by a laser and/or a tower?!

LynetteScavo · 06/05/2017 21:28

I also have 7 month old kittens. No way would I let them right the house at night and not expect to be woke up. I've always shut them in the kitchen & funk groom overnight. They seem to sleep, but I do provide toys. They particularly like nobbly balls.

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