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Help needed - legal stuff

67 replies

coffeeisnectar · 20/04/2016 18:40

Yes, legal about a cat.

We have four cats. The 4 year old male used to live three doors down with a family which had three boys. They previously had an additional cat which was tormented by the 4 year old boy so much which culminated in the child throwing the cat down the stairs so another neighbour across the road took her on.

The boy cat was always out and about, used to spend his time breaking into other houses (including ours) for food. Used to literally inhale cat food when he had access to it here. He was a pretty aggressive cat and used to growl, bite and scratch. Basically he was quite antisocial in the neighbourhood.

Three months ago this family were moving out. The woman asked my dp if we would feed boy cat for a week (leaving him outside in January) while they moved and settled in and then she would come back for him. She said that the new house did not allow pets and that it was going to be hard to keep him hidden. We tentatively agreed but agreed between ourselves that if it got too cold we would let him sleep in the porch.

The day of the move, she dropped off a box of cat food. We looked for the cat but he wasn't about. She later messaged me to say that she'd taken him with her.

Three days later she called me and asked me if we would take on the cat. She said the cat was miserable there and that they weren't allowed cats and that it was best if he was back where he knew. I discussed with dp and the kids (we already had 3 cats) and then agreed. She turned up the next day with the cat in a carrier. No bowl or food. We went out and bought him new bowls.

In the last three months he's a changed cat. He's sweet natured, affectionate, calm and happy. He no longer breaks into other peoples houses and has stopped attacking people in the street. He no longer inhales his dinner but eats slowly and calmly. I've given him worming treatment, flea treatment and taken him for vet treatment to have a tick removed.

Today I got a text saying she wants the cat back. I've said no. She is insisting the cat is hers, that it was only temporary and that she will give me money for his food for the last 12 weeks. I said that as far as I'm concerned this was a permanent decision and if it was only temporary why has she not offered payment for his upkeep before now.

I am terrified she is going to just come and take the cat. He is so happy here and we love him.

How can I sort this out? The microchip is not registered to us as she has never handed over paperwork. I have registered the cat at the vet with us via the chip but I am scared that this isn't enough.

Help! What do i do? Does she have a leg to stand on? I have all the text messages from when she asked me to take him.

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cozietoesie · 20/04/2016 22:49

Do you know her new address?

coffeeisnectar · 21/04/2016 07:22

He hasn't come home this morning :(

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thecatneuterer · 21/04/2016 07:28

Fuck. Fingers crossed he's just out enjoying the morning sun ...

ExitPursuedByABear · 21/04/2016 07:31

Oh no. Do you know where she lives? I'd be straight round.

coffeeisnectar · 21/04/2016 07:43

Will keep calling him but he's normally in when dp gets up. Yes I know where she lives. She's blocked me on fb.

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DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 21/04/2016 09:19

Oh no!!

Can you keep him inside for a while in the hope she gives up,or is he very much an outdoor cat?

I think I'd write her a very pointed ( non threatening) letter quoting her texts to you and the fact you have taken on responsibility etc and you will be informing RSPCA and the vet's about his neglect when in her care and you have vet's records to back this up,if she doesn't back off. Also inform her you'll be changing micro chip records and if she challenges this you will be informing RSPCA.

Really hope it works out ok x

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 21/04/2016 11:41

Oh no. I've been following this and I agree with Dame about the letter.

Do you have any photos showing the difference between when you first had him and now?

coffeeisnectar · 21/04/2016 11:48

Still no sign of the cat. DD let him out about 9pm last night, he's normally home about 5am when dp gets up for work and then he goes up onto DDs bed.

We've all been calling him and there's no sign. I'm assuming she got her boyfriend to come here in the night and find him. I'm going to keep looking for him but I'm not hopeful. This is a cat that likes his food and a warm bed to snooze on so unless he's been locked in somewhere he'd be home.

Devastated.

I have been thinking of find out whether she actually has him and then sending her an invoice for £420 which would be the equivalent of £5 a day, similar to cattery fees. If she refuses to pay then take her to the small claims court on a pay up or give me the cat back type thing.

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cozietoesie · 21/04/2016 12:23

Have you received any messages from her today?

coffeeisnectar · 21/04/2016 12:26

I just got a reply to my text. She has him.

I'm so upset. She won't back down and says he's 'back with his family'.

I can't believe she could just do that. It's not fair on the cat.

However, my one hope is he will make his own way back here. It's not far away, a couple of miles so fingers crossed he turns up at some point.

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ExitPursuedByABear · 21/04/2016 12:32

Definitely send her a bill for looking after him.

Hope he makes his way back.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 21/04/2016 12:35

I'm so sorry Coffee. What a cow.

If it's any consolation something similar happened to my Uncle and Aunt and the cat made his way back to them at least twice. In the end he needed vet treatment and his original owners refused to pay so my Aunt and Uncle arranged it and he ended up living with them until the end of his days. Fingers crossed he makes his way back to you Flowers

AnchorDownDeepBreath · 21/04/2016 12:36

Report her under the theft act.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 21/04/2016 12:47

Oh no, you poor thing, I'd be devasted too!! We have taken on a stray and have had him for about 4 months, luckily we got him micro chipped as he hadn't been done. He was in an appalling state and it's been so lovely to see him improve, I can only imagine how you must be feeling Sad

I'd report her asap and pray cat makes his way back to you. Good chance especially as he's used to being outdoors.

coffeeisnectar · 21/04/2016 12:50

I've phoned the police. They will call back tonight (very busy at moment) so will update when I've spoken to them.

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DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 21/04/2016 13:11

Keeping everything crossed for youFlowers

paddypants13 · 21/04/2016 13:21

Good luck getting him back. What a cow. Someone who treats animals as possessions without feelings should not be allowed to keep them.

Keep us updated and these Thanksare for you. x

thecatneuterer · 21/04/2016 13:34

How sad. I would be tempted to try to steal him back again - although that could go on and on and also wouldn't be fair on the cat.

I'm amazed the police even agreed to talk to you. You obviously live in a naice place where they have time on their hands. They definitely won't actually do anything though I'm afraid, so by all means talk to them, but it will make no difference.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 21/04/2016 13:37

I think if there's neglect involved it's a criminal act, so they would get involved?

coffeeisnectar · 21/04/2016 13:38

Thank you all. I am hopeful. The police are interested, are coming over to look at texts and messages so keeping my fingers crossed.

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DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 21/04/2016 13:44

Thank goodness you kept the texts! Good luck x

thecatneuterer · 21/04/2016 14:16

Dame you have to be joking. The most they would do is advise contacting the RSPCA who, unless you can show that the cat is being seriously abused, would also do nothing.

All this talk about legality and police and proof is utterly pointless. The police won't care and it would never get to court.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 21/04/2016 20:22

Hope you're OK OP?

RNBrie · 21/04/2016 20:28

Good lord OP, she sounds like a nightmare. I can't believe she stole your cat Sad

Hope the police resolve it sensibly for you.

cozietoesie · 21/04/2016 22:01

I think that that depends on the community, and the police and people involved TCN. They may indeed do absolutely nothing but I've lived in** places where the police took a very active role in resolving potential community disputes. Who can tell.