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Cat weeing everywhere

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icelollycraving · 05/02/2015 20:42

Hi everyone. We've had our cat since Christmas. He started off with one litter tray,but started weeing around the house,particularly on anything resembling a tunnel so his play thing,ds'tent etc. We thought maybe it felt like a litter tray (the house ones if that makes sense) so I ordered another. It's enormous & he used it straight away. He's continued to use both but also continued to wee. It's not spraying up but on the carpet,bed,sofa etc. I've ordered that urine off stuff but has anyone any advice on what we should do to stop it.

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icelollycraving · 05/02/2015 20:44

Tonight for example he used the tray & then 10 mins later jumped on the sofa & weed everywhere.

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gamerchick · 05/02/2015 20:47

It's a stress thing. He's upset and telling you he is.

Is he neutered?

First stop is the vets to check it's not a medical issue I would do.

icelollycraving · 05/02/2015 20:52

Not neutered. He's a very sweet cat but this weeing is driving me crazy,I'm like a sniffer dog in every bloody room.

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gamerchick · 05/02/2015 21:03

You really need to take him for the chop. Have you booked him in yet? Even that on its own and a few tweets to whatever it is that's upsetting him might sort it out .

gamerchick · 05/02/2015 21:04

*tweeks

RubbishMantra · 05/02/2015 21:28

How old is he? They'll "puddle" even when they're not mature enough to spray.

Have there been any changes to the household? Does he have somewhere to escape from children if he needs to?

And yes, agree about taking him to the vet. Could be something like cystitis.

Fluffycloudland77 · 05/02/2015 21:29

Try neutering first. Before it becomes habit.

icelollycraving · 05/02/2015 22:32

Thanks. I emailed the breeder who is lovely,very helpful. He suggested getting pet remedy & keeping him in one room for now. Not sure how that would work. I had a look & there are the plug ins which if it's stress can help. I could do with a de stresser!

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gamerchick · 05/02/2015 22:34

If he's territorial marking for a reason then keeping him in one room will make him more stressed if he can't do his 'job'.

How old is he and when are you getting him spayed?

Fluffycloudland77 · 05/02/2015 22:40

So to de-stress a cat possibly wanting to mate they advise confining to one room?.

I can't quite see how that would help. If he wants to roam & he can't he must be quite distressed by it.

Is he heavy enough to neuter yet?.

icelollycraving · 05/02/2015 22:41

Yes,I'm not convinced on the one room idea. Just a thought but could human wee or poo trouble him? Ds has had some accidents & so there was washing waiting to go in the machine,wonder if that smell upset the balance. He's not spraying,it's more puddles. He's 10 months old.

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icelollycraving · 05/02/2015 22:44

I think he was thinking more in containing the damage etc. yes,will look at neutering.

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anya79 · 05/02/2015 23:05

I know how you feel I recently gave my cat up to cat rescue centre just like a week ago I'm still grieving I know it sounds stupid. She was with us for a year I feel like part of the family is missing, I'm still getting her food bowl out to get her food ready before I sit down for my lunch and dinner sad ey? I even dreamt she has turned up at my front door, now I'm calling th pe centre up regular to see how she is, or if anyone has shown interest in homing her. :(

from day one I saw her pee in her new basket, with new cushion I thought that was odd. She's had a huge tray cleaned out every day, used wood pellets, no fragrance.

Used felliway spray recommended by vet didn't helped. Spent few hundred on vet bills testimg for possible causes, no medical cause. Vet concluded it's behavioural and possible an anxious cat. She said the car may do better in a quiet house no kids. I'm not convinced I think its just her Behaviour and the quiet house won't make a difference. She used to pee in evening when I was busy getting dinner on plates, she demanded attention asap. When I said wait I'll play with you in a tick, I'd come in the lounge to find she has peed on the leather sofa.

I threw the sofa out because I was told no amount of detergents would help so new sofa help...nope she still did it.

to her credit the last few months peeing has been less often maybe once a month but husband said it's too much for us to cope with cat problems and kids. And the cat problem was unlikely to cure itself, I suspect its for life.

My advice don't delay vet trip best to pay up now rather than later. Get the cat neautered and see if it helps, it didn't help us. Our cat was 6 months old when we got her and she was doing the same thing.

But as a teen we had a cat that was an adult after spaying she didn't pee in house again, so it can solve the issue in some cats.

  • move the cat food to area where cat pees a lot after cleaning with an enzyme cleaner I.e clothes detergent is good, then spray to remove odour. Cats don't pee where they eat, least they're no supposed to. After a while out the food tray back where it belongs might solve it.
  • spray something like felliway or similar in areas you don't want cat peeing, but this needs to be done regular an these sprays cost a lot. Felliway didn't work for me. Pp, but givemit a go. So,e folks use orange or other citrus spray cats don't like it.
  • scoop tray everyday and full clean out once a week. Might help.
  • line cat tray deep our cat liked it that way they like to dig their mess, and odours are observed better.
  • used wood pellets no odours cats don't like fragrance litter often. cAt centres used wood a lot.
  • use cat attract litter expensive but apparently has helped some cats to smell out their tray rather than peeinf around the house.
  • confine cat for litter box retraining to one smalle room, with its tray, baker and food for At least 1 week. This helps some cats.

that's all I can say I'm afraid.

I also got my cat from a breeder if I ever get a cat again if it is from a breeder it will be one who is a small time breeder that lives in the home with the cats and children. some breeders breed to large volume and keep the cats in cat kennels or caged off rooms away from the family home with little interaction so I believe this is why they have litter box problems and behavioural issues.

I really believe this because as kid and throught my teens I had many cats all from loving homes not big breeders and none had behavioural issues like this. I even reared several cat litters and there was no peeing or pooping after I trained them, this is why I don't look favourably on big breeders, I think they may be the problem.

I wish you the best I know how frustrating and upsetting it can be.

RubbishMantra · 06/02/2015 02:39

Blimey, no wonder he's pissing territorially. At 10 months old, he's the equivalent to a randy and angsty teenager.

How come you haven't got him neutered yet? Because if he goes outside he's much more likely to get into fights or get into an RTA when he's prowling after a female.

Also, surely you don't want to be responsible for creating more unwanted kittens that the (already extremely overworked) shelters have to find homes for?

The PDSA or Celia Hammond Trust will help out with neutering, as well as other charities.

icelollycraving · 06/02/2015 06:09

anya so sorry to hear your story. I think it may be him wanting attention. The story of you making tea etc is familiar. He wants to come into the bedroom at night which if he curled up would be fine,but I'm worried he will wee etc. I gave him lots of cuddles whilst grooming him last night & then this morning c early so he's feeling loved. It can't hurt to give more love I guess.
His trays are cleaned out fully twice a week & scooped twice a day. We use wood pellets. The breeder also asked if I use room fragrances which I do, I have reed diffusers. I'll take a look at felliway.
He hasn't been neutered as he's an indoor cat because he's a pedigree so no chance of him adding to the cat population right now. I have next week off so will see if it improves next week & will find a vet locally.
Anya Thanks

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icelollycraving · 06/02/2015 06:14

Also the other problem is that now ds sleeps with me. He used to come in through the night but we're worried about the cat weeing in there over the toys again. Ds has never had the door shut at night so now spends the entire night in my bed. Trying to look after everyone to my best.

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Fluffycloudland77 · 06/02/2015 06:53

My pedigree cats have always wanted to go out & we've let them because their happier after being out.

It's ok to contain them in one room overnight eg kitchen.

icelollycraving · 06/02/2015 07:18

We are going to fit things to the fence so he can go out in our garden but not escape too far. We will do that when dh has some time off next month. I'm wondering if a child gate would stop him coming upstairs at night. I want him to be happy,I suspect he's a bit bored.

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gamerchick · 06/02/2015 07:26

Well that's even worse.. hugely randy teenage tom cat bursting with hormones, not allowed to go out and busy building a moat of HIM around the house to mark his territory.

Until you get him fixed your problem is unlikely to go away.

gamerchick · 06/02/2015 07:27

Do you give him playtime everyday to tire him out?

msrisotto · 06/02/2015 07:34

Hate to be repetitive, but get him neutered. That'll fix it.

icelollycraving · 06/02/2015 08:22

Yes,we play with him.

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gamerchick · 06/02/2015 08:31

So you have a plan now right?

Nobody likes the idea of the op but it's important and it should calm him down.

icelollycraving · 06/02/2015 08:34

All my previous cats have been done prior to me getting them. How long does it take?

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Fluffycloudland77 · 06/02/2015 09:07

Well they usually operate in the morning sometime and ring you at 3ish so you can collect them.

It's worse for you than the cat. You can get them microchipped at the same time for a few pounds extra. You might think he won't get lost but everyone thinks that unil there cat gets lost.

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