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in tears, for the first time cat brought in live mouse that was injured

32 replies

blighter · 29/03/2012 20:05

i made dh get a spade and wack it/kill it to put it out of its misery. tbh our cat is so lazy & fat i didn't think she had the killer instinct in her. i love mice, that is why i am in tears. i know the cat meant it as a gift but i feel sick. i love my cat but hate this side of cats. feel sick & so hurt, watching that poor mouse trying to run away whilst she towered over it, truly horrible :(

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mumofjust1 · 29/03/2012 20:15

It's horrible isn't it?

I have 2 cats and a kitten who is too young to go out yet. The older boys bring various wildlife home in varying degrees of mutilation Hmm

Everything from field mice to a stoat.

We save what we can and have made mad dashes to the vets with birds they've injured and brought home still flapping.

I'm afraid that's just what cats do.

blighter · 29/03/2012 20:25

mum, please, give me some advice. did we do the right thing in killing the mouse? should be kill (i guess with a spade) anything that is injured/still alive? i couldn't do it myself although would have to have done so if dh was away. i keep crying about it, put me off my supper which was ready at the time, couldn't eat now. poor defenseless thing. cat keeps looking at me as if i am mad, i know she meant well but it is just so cruel and unecessary, not as if we need a mouse catcher. do your cats do it regularly ie once a week, once a month. mind you, i would rather this than go through what my sister goes through having three large dogs, they eat poo and roll in peoples sick......... :D

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TheHonMrsP · 29/03/2012 20:33

You did the right thing, stop beating yourself up. What was your alternative?

mumofjust1 · 29/03/2012 20:36

Pmsl at "eat poo and roll in people sick"! Grin

Ours do it more or less weekly. Sometimes we find a little body and other times we find an internal organ outside the door that neither of them fancied eating Confused

I don't think there's anything you can do to stop it entirely unless you keep her in permanently - but if she's used to going out that wouldn't be fair to her.

One thing that did slow down the kill rate was popping double bells and a metal tag on their collars - maybe worth a try?

My oldest boy sounds like a reindeer when he runs down the road jingling! Grin

As for killing the mouse - I think it was the kindest thong in the circumstances. Sometimes though they go into shock and don't move much, making you think they're about to die, but if it's clearly injured badly, it's all you can do, as long as it's quick.

We once called the vet about a bird the cats brought home that was fine apart from a broken wing. You know what he told us? Put it back out and let the cats finish it. Bastard. I had such a go at him he agreed we could take it in to them and they would get tiggywinkles to pick it up.

winnybella · 29/03/2012 20:40

It was a merciful thing to do if the mouse was seriously injured.

My DP's cat used to bring home rabbits.

Fluffycloudland77 · 29/03/2012 20:42

TBH mice usually come in dead/dying here. We put them out either way.

Birds, usually unharmed and released.

Frogs, you think there dead then they hop off, always trapped and released.

Baby bunnies, bleeding a little bit but able to give me a good kicking so released.

blighter · 29/03/2012 20:52

trying to imagine a cat bringing in a bird that is unharmed in the process & a RABBIT! blimey, that must be some cat. i took the bell off her collar when we got her as it used to freak me out as i would hear it in the night but i will have to go out and buy her a new collar with the biggest bell i can find :)

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blighter · 29/03/2012 20:53

thanks fluffy. i love frogs too and we have loads round here. i think i am in for an eventful summer......

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mumofjust1 · 29/03/2012 21:04

Blighter - the noisier her collar the better Smile

TheHonMrsP · 29/03/2012 21:06

My cat bought a bat home once Confused

Milliways · 29/03/2012 21:07

I grabbed a stunned mouse by the tail and out it outside (trapping cat indoors first) yesterday. We get Squirrels in here! Have had huge rats, mice, wood pigeons, moles, anything he can get from the golf course behind.

Fluffycloudland77 · 29/03/2012 21:25

One of my chinchillas used to bring home burgers and sausages out of peoples bins and the local pubs barbeque.

He was so proud of them.

blighter · 29/03/2012 21:36

fluffy - you have a chinchilla that goes out on its own and brings him BURGERS :) that is so bloody sweet, i'd much rather a burger than something that (use to) breathe. milli - how on earth do you deal with a live rat? wtf do you do? obviously you can tell i am a reasonably new cat owner...........i am now scared tbh, had no idea that all cats were hunters. we thought ours was pretty lazy, but apparently not. dh is adamant that i can't get a bell. he works from home and said it would drive him mad, he is definate about it. i said he was being selfish as it would help give the critters a chance of scarping but he won't have any of it. the bell is annoying but i would still get her one but i can't now

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Fluffycloudland77 · 29/03/2012 21:55

He also hunted, a bell didnt hold him back, nor did being a 14lb white chinchilla. You'd think a bird could spot a great big white fluffball wouldnt you?.

I think they all have the instinct.

issey6cats · 29/03/2012 22:56

hopefully i wont get so many mice this year as my hunter (12yrs old and still in kill mode) went to rainbow bridge recently, but was watching my half siamese on the shed roof next to privet hedge, the ginger and white hooligan on the ground and the tuxedo hovering in the middle after a butterfly yesterday, they were in formation and despite my best efforts they got the poor thing and all of them have bells and collars dont stop them

fridakahlo · 29/03/2012 23:03

We once rescued a mouse from our three cats, by first of all getting the cat to catch it. OH then held an empty tissue box near the cat and the mouse leapt for it, a real tom and jerry moment.
We let it go down the road but I would not be surprised if it died from shock anyway.
OP, try telling your cat you don't want them in the house, you never know, she might listen.

aliasname · 29/03/2012 23:09

tbh they don't bring it home as gift for you - it's just their natural instinct to bring their kill home, wait for it die... eventually

our used to bring home the birds he caught (because then they couldn't fly away) but not the mice

We had a badly injured one once. My mum wanted to hit it with a pan. I thought we should gas it in the oven...

gaelicsheep · 29/03/2012 23:12

DS found a rabbit once that had been shot and had a huge beetle sat inside a massive bullet wound. It was still alive and dragging itself around. It was truly horrible. Our neighbour despatched the rabbit with a shovel, which was the right thing to do. Unfortunately I have a feeling it was he who had shot it in the first place. Sad

BrianCoxHasScaryHair · 29/03/2012 23:13

I was the bird-rescuer last year. Never my cat though - always others and I was the one to try and bring them back to life! A seagull had been injured (hit by a car I assume as no obvious marks from cat attack) and I watched it all day, willing it to either fly of or die peacefully - neither happened so I called the RSPCA, give them their due they came and got it. I reckon they will have PTS and in fairness, I can see why - the money it would cost to fix it vs the trauma of putting the bird through that rigmarole.

Last summer I only had Rosie (got Bert mid August), and she tends to favour Moths and mice. She never kills, always maims Sad So we were sitting watching tv, back door open and next minute the dog went ape-shit, petrified, running away - sure enough Rosie had a moth the size of my hand (I swear to you, it was huuuuge) with one wing not working but flapping like a good-un! Rosie drops it at my feet (cue me screaming the house down at giant-flappy-moth-beast).

Wasn't sure what to expect with Bert, considering he's 9 months old and has a dodgy pelvis (after being fractured aged 5ish months). At the very least (considering he has a shiny collar with a bell) I expected a sparrow. I was greeted with a Magpie on Wednesday. Thankfully dead. I looked at the bird, and then at (a very content) Bert and there wasn't much difference in size! He then proceeded to lie in the garden, on his back, in the sun and make the most ridiculous noises at every bird that flew by (a high pitched meow/growl/purr??) as if to say "yeah, you know where it's at" Grin

I take no joy in my cats bringing me presents, but if I didn't see the lighthearted side of it, I'd sit here crying!

fridakahlo · 30/03/2012 04:11

Brian, I'm impressed, a magpie. Try telling him to get something useful next time, like a wood pigeon.

nooka · 30/03/2012 04:29

Our current pair of cats are hunters. None of our previous cats have been in any way successful (and watching the you could see why!) and I was glad of it.

We no longer have problems with half dead mice though, as our dog just eats them! It hasn't stopped the cats bringing them home, but he just wanders over and snaffles them up. It's a quick end at least.

fussbucket · 30/03/2012 04:39

Brian ours does that weird noise at pigeons. It's completely different from the one she makes when she's crippled a baby rat (she's in the process of destroying a litter somewhere in the back yard) and is in the process of tormenting it to death.
I wish she'd just kill them, but I'm glad she's getting rid of them.

nooka · 30/03/2012 06:58

One of our previous cats used to make that noise at he blackbirds through our bedroom window. He was a useless hunter though, and I think they knew it, as they used to really give him 'the look' as they pulled out their worms from the lawn.

He did once bring home a whole (cooked) leg of lamb though!

fussbucket · 30/03/2012 12:07

Did you ever find out where she got it from?

fussbucket · 30/03/2012 12:08

Sorry heBlush