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Please help the dog is giving me a nervous breakdown

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Spambod · 11/11/2022 12:46

We put our old rescue dog down. She had never been clean in the house but we dealt with it for 8 years because we loved her and no one else would have taken her on, we just washed her, bedding and floor pretty much every day. To be honest it was a relief to put her down at 13 years old.
we then got a puppy from a rescue centre. He was quite delayed as he was the runt. He is now nearly 4 and is developing incontinence. He was never consistently clean, he does a poo or two sometimes pee in the night. Often poos in his bed and sleeps on it. This is now becoming every night. He is in the utility room at night with puppy pads. This morning I had to wash him, the bed, the floor the bath as he was so covered. I have two disabled children who have lots of appointments. The toddler is non verbal and has very poor mobility. She is heavy and I have to basically change, feed and bottle her a lot day and night. I am a carer for both kids and it can be full on. My eldest struggles to attend school full time and I am trying to get toddler into a suitable nursery.
the dog is causing me so much cleaning every morning and so much extra work and cost. He is not great with the vet anymore as he has already had so much treatment for a broken leg and for his allergies which are now under control. I have taken him to the vet about this issue.
the vet said she can see his spine is not great which is common with this breed. Inability to housetrain is also common with him (frenchie).
I have just spent 270 on more wipes and puppy pads, a new bed as washing it every day has made it disintegrate. More dog shampoo and more medication. He is also on special food and a hefty insurance bill so he is very expensive but that is not the main issues the issue is that my utility room and kitchen are a dog kennel and I have a stressful life anyway with the kids.
I honestly feel at the end of my tether today as it is now every day. Before the kids eat the dog has to be sorted and the washing machine is on every day for the dog.
I think the accumulation is making me crack up.
I feel like I have no patience left and no one is getting any attention because I am so pissed off at another huge poonami every morning.
if he just did it on the sea of pads that would be a godsend but he does it on himself, the bedding as well.
I feel like the kids and me come second best.
we all love the dog putting him down is the last thing I want to do.
I intend to call the vet again and discuss it with her.
I really need some advice and perspective. He is not good with people or other animals. When we go on holiday I have to pay extra to the dog sitter as she has to do all this as well.
please can I have some advice I can’t see the wood for the trees.

OP posts:
PurpleButterflyWings · 12/11/2022 01:00

Floralnomad · 12/11/2022 00:28

How many people do you think will be willing to take on an incontinent dog that will be uninsurable for its numerous medical issues . No dog wants to lay in its own excrement and the fact that this dog does so indicates quite an issue

Well the OP took him on!

PurpleButterflyWings · 12/11/2022 01:00

@Spambod FGS get the poor dog rehomed! Confused Why on earth are people suggesting PTS? How awful. Sad

Also, if you had so much trouble and so many issues with your previous dog, why on EARTH did you get another dog?! Confused Especially with so much on your plate already. My kids left home a decade ago, I only work part time, I have no parents alive now, and one cat. Very few responsibilities. Just me, DH, and our cat. And even I couldn't be fucked with having a dog. Too much like hard work, expensive, needy, clingy, messy. smelly. (IMO.) I would certainly have not had one with as much on my plate as you appear to have.

Re-home him!

CrimboLimbo · 12/11/2022 01:03

You know that it’s not..mandatory to have a dog, right?

I mean is your life my hard enough already?

i’m genuinely not meaning to be snide. I just don’t get this obsession with dogs. They’re so much work.

Cw112 · 12/11/2022 01:04

I'm also questioning why you took on a dog that was clearly likely to have challenges when you already have so much on your plate. That breed is notorious for health problems if you'd researched it but hindsight is 20/20 hey. I think pts a 3yr old dog just for incontinence is actually really unfair unless the vet is telling you there is no quality of life and absolutely no way to treat it. I'd be contacting a local rehoming charity and explaining that you can no longer cope (which is the real crux of the issue rather than the dog itself) and ask them to find the dog a suitable home. At least then you know the dog will be looked after/ matched to someone with the financial means and time available to commit to them. Just putting to sleep because you are past it with them and didn't do your due diligence in the first place isn't really fair. I'm sorry if that sounds harsh but it's unfair to take your mistake out on the dog.

Marcipex · 12/11/2022 01:11

This dog also doesn’t like people or other dogs.
And especially doesn’t like vets.
And isn’t just not housetrained, it lies in poo, sleeps in it, walks it around the floor.

It’s better to pts rather than subject it to a life in and out of rescues.

Cw112 · 12/11/2022 01:12

"He has allergies and a bone condition, he is reactive with dogs and people, he is unpredictable so always on a lead. In my view he isn’t rehomable."

Also he doesn't need to be rehomable to be returned to a shelter. The shelter I volunteer at have a designated section for dogs that are not rehomable and will be there for their lifetime. This is getting busier due to the amount of dogs being purchased from puppy farms/inbreeding situations. The charity have specific funding and sponsors for those dogs and a home from home set up where they work on issues like reactivity etc and get them extensive medical attention. So please don't just rule out other options. Do your research and see what charity in your area might do similar and rehome with them. There also should be a clause in your purchase of the dog in the first instance that you would return them to the rehoming centre you got them from. This is pretty standard.

CallieQ · 12/11/2022 01:26

Have to ask why you got another dog after your last one was PTS

CallieQ · 12/11/2022 01:27

PurpleButterflyWings · 12/11/2022 01:00

@Spambod FGS get the poor dog rehomed! Confused Why on earth are people suggesting PTS? How awful. Sad

Also, if you had so much trouble and so many issues with your previous dog, why on EARTH did you get another dog?! Confused Especially with so much on your plate already. My kids left home a decade ago, I only work part time, I have no parents alive now, and one cat. Very few responsibilities. Just me, DH, and our cat. And even I couldn't be fucked with having a dog. Too much like hard work, expensive, needy, clingy, messy. smelly. (IMO.) I would certainly have not had one with as much on my plate as you appear to have.

Re-home him!

It's not easy to rehome a dog with those problems

millerpie · 12/11/2022 01:31

I’d personally be asking the vet to do more to get to the bottom of his incontinence because sitting in it means he’s not aware he’s doing it. I have an adopted paralysed dog, severed spine so no feeling at the back end. She’s completely easy to care for in terms of hygiene it’s not really an issue. She doesn’t know when she’s going but I express her four times a day, takes a couple of minutes it’s clean and easy. If I go out (work at home) or when I’m in bed or she’s out in her wheels she wears a nappy with a panty liner just incase. She’s raw fed so her poops never bad just firm and small, we rarely have any mess in the house. Aside from a little extra hygiene and physiotherapy she lives life like any other dog.
I completely understand it’s not easy but it doesn’t have to be as difficult as you have it, for both your sakes please work with your vet to find out what’s causing so many problems.

tabulahrasa · 12/11/2022 05:28

Hmm, tbh, I think I’d get a new vet... it kind of sounds a bit like yours has gone, well it’s a frenchie they’re knackered rather than actually investigating anything and seeing if there’s any treatment options.

”Skippy” back legs could be neurologist, it could also be hip dysplasia or luxating patella (or I’m sure plenty of other things) but both of those cause pain, which could be causing the pooing issue... and the reactivity as well.

Yes lots of frenchies have health issues that can cause gait problems, but it’s not normal as in, they have a medical issue that may need treatment/management not just, yeah, frenchies do that.

StoppinBy · 12/11/2022 05:41

Suzi888 · 11/11/2022 17:03

Jesus Christ. MN really hate dogs don’t they.

It’s not normal for a dog to be shitting itself. Why on earth did you get another one- you have so much going on, does he get walked?

Take him to the vet. It’s not normal.

Did you even read the OP? The dog has spinal issues, most likely this is causing the incontinence.

The dog has not been forced into pooping everywhere from lack of exercise.

OP, get a check up and see if there's anything to be done.

If there is - Great, give it a go. If there isn't you have a couple of choices, one being that you try to find the dog a home with someone who is able to accommodate for his issues or two, you can choose to have him PTS.

What you do will depend on his quality of life I think. If he has spinal issues causing this then he is likely to also be in pain.

If you ever do get another dog, please buy a breed that has little hereditary issues and is a hardy, trainable breed.

Spambod · 13/11/2022 09:48

Hi all and thank you so much for all your replies. I have also posted on another thread as mumsnet posted the thread twice. So yesterday I took him out for a walk and he was high on the back and skippy but happy to sprint around as he usually is.
I then massaged his back legs and back and he enjoyed it and rolled around stretched etc so didn’t seem in any pain.
I have been doing a lot of reading and speaking to dh.
this morning he had peed all over himself and the bed floor etc.
i am going to go to the vet on Monday with a list of symptoms. I think he has disc/back/neurological issues that are getting worse with age. These are all sadly common with frenchies.
the IVDD and disc mylepathy in frenchies does not always result in pain.
he does have a lot going on medically and this may or may not be related to his agrression.
Btw frenchies rescues are full of frenchies with complex medical profiles and aggression. This breed is overbred and should be de registered for the sake of animal welfare in my opinion.
thanks again for all the replies. My feeling is that he is another frenchie statistic because the breed health has collapsed.
we will be gutted if we have to put him down I knew he wasn’t going to live long but he is just shy of four years old.
the vet told me the average lifespan of a frenchie is now 4 and a half. How gutting this all is.

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Snoopsnoggysnog · 13/11/2022 09:57

Good for you OP for rescuing this poor creature but it sounds really tough and I can’t understand why Frenchies are allowed to be bred!
what can we do about this? Petition?

pilates · 13/11/2022 10:09

His quality of life is poor. With all what you have going on in your life, I think PTS is the kindest thing you can do.

Runningslow · 13/11/2022 10:10

In response to one poster - please do not try raw feeding if you have a dog that poos everywhere and have young children. The infection risk would be ridiculous

User0610134057 · 13/11/2022 10:13

Sounds really difficult OP, you have so much on your plate. What was the decision process about getting the rescue dog? I just can’t get my head round that.
but I hope you get some good vet advice and find a way forward. Just please maybe don’t get another dog in future for your own sanity!

Spambod · 13/11/2022 18:30

User0610134057 · 13/11/2022 10:13

Sounds really difficult OP, you have so much on your plate. What was the decision process about getting the rescue dog? I just can’t get my head round that.
but I hope you get some good vet advice and find a way forward. Just please maybe don’t get another dog in future for your own sanity!

When we got him he was a puppy and was just delayed and slow he didn’t have these issues. At that time I was a sahm with one child in full time school. I am now a carer with two disabled. 2nd dd wasn’t around at all. Since we got him our circumstances have changed a lot. I also have another dog who doesn’t have toileting or behavioural issues and is just easy and has been for 10 years so no issues with her at all.

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Spambod · 10/12/2022 18:29

Hi all, thanks once again for the replies. I just wanted to update on this thread. I took the dog to the vet with a list of all symptoms and issues as I feel I have been fobbed off a bit before. I insisted on an x ray. The x ray showed the dog has a spinal deformity which is inoperable and getting worse with age. The vet was unable to prescribe strong painkillers because he also has colitis causing the incontinence. She felt his aggression was linked to pain. I tried him in a course of painkillers which seemed to make very little difference so we decided to have him pts. It’s done now and we are all very sad about it. Vet said all these issues are common to frenchies and indeed they are the norm with all frenchies now and she said that there were lots of tears in her surgery from French bulldog owners. Poor little fellow is now a picture on the wall and a pot of ashes and kids are very sad. It’s gutting to put a young dog down and I am telling everyone about the health issues of this breed. A lovely breed but such a tragically unhealthy one.

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Bestcatmum · 10/12/2022 18:39

For goodness sake, why do you keep taking on sick/runty bad pedigree dogs when you have two disabled children?
If you insist on having a dog then get the best of the mongerel litter, a really healthy one or get a couple of young cats.
You have enough on your plate already.

CockSpadget · 10/12/2022 18:43

Spambod · 10/12/2022 18:29

Hi all, thanks once again for the replies. I just wanted to update on this thread. I took the dog to the vet with a list of all symptoms and issues as I feel I have been fobbed off a bit before. I insisted on an x ray. The x ray showed the dog has a spinal deformity which is inoperable and getting worse with age. The vet was unable to prescribe strong painkillers because he also has colitis causing the incontinence. She felt his aggression was linked to pain. I tried him in a course of painkillers which seemed to make very little difference so we decided to have him pts. It’s done now and we are all very sad about it. Vet said all these issues are common to frenchies and indeed they are the norm with all frenchies now and she said that there were lots of tears in her surgery from French bulldog owners. Poor little fellow is now a picture on the wall and a pot of ashes and kids are very sad. It’s gutting to put a young dog down and I am telling everyone about the health issues of this breed. A lovely breed but such a tragically unhealthy one.

Aw bless you, you have absolutely done the right thing by him. Wholeheartedly agree it’s time these and several other breeds were banned from being bred in their current form. A life expectancy of less than 5 is beyond ridiculous, especially when for most, those years are filled with health issues and pain.

thelobsterquadrille · 10/12/2022 18:46

You've done absolutely the right thing OP.

StrongTea · 10/12/2022 18:49

Really sorry but you did the kindest thing.

MrsPnut · 10/12/2022 18:51

I think you did the right thing and I have dogs as well as volunteering for a few breed rescues for French Bulldogs.

devildeepbluesea · 10/12/2022 18:52

Sorry to hear the update, but probably the best thing for the poor boy. Shocking statistic re Frenchie life span.

Ignore the self-righteous brigade who can’t be bothered to read your posts properly 💐

Roselilly36 · 10/12/2022 18:56

Aww so sorry OP, you made the right decision.

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