AIBU to think this isn't really my problem...

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We moved into our current house 11 years ago. We adopted an older greyhound who was about 7 at the time. About a year later my NDN bought a puppy and basically made no attempts to train it. Our dog (who had spent most of his life in kennels) never reacted to it unless it was persistently left to bark at the shared fence. When that happened, we let our dog give him a couple of woofs before calling him in (which he reliably did). NDN then gave that puppy away and a few months later got a new one which they to bark persistently at the shared perimeter. By this time our old dog was too settled to care, so didn't react.

Our dog old passed away earlier in the year, we've since adopted a couple of young rescue dogs. No real issues with barking. There's a breeder at the back of our house with dogs barking all day,...until School summer break where the neighbours expect to be able to let their untrained dog to continue to bark as much as it likes. We've always applied the '2woofs and you're in' command to our dogs and it's consistent. A few days ago, NDN approached me, for the first time, to want to introduce our dogs on a walk. I think they want a scenario where they can continue to let their dogs bark as much as they want with v little intervention/training from themselves.

Ok so you get as far as telling is what the NDN suggested to you

your response?

and personally I think you’re seeing shadows

I think the NDN seee you have similar aged dogs and thought a shared walk might by nice

So the dog they had that was barking was over a decade ago?!

Not gonna lie OP - your post contains a lot of words but doesn't say much.

what exactly is the problem you have with your neighbour? That her dogs bark? Of course it's not your problem.

Apologies if I have missed something but you have rambled a bit and not been clear.

Well all that was as clear as mud 🙄

The dogs age difference are NDN 8ys; mine 3ys and 4yrs, so not really similar. I offered to go for the walk, but it's not really going to address the issue that NDN shouldn't let their dog bark at the boundary for hours on end. She seemed to think dogs going for a walk together will no longer mean they're territorial?!

So the dogs at the ages they are - are still barking for hours at the boundary?

Well it sounds like it’s totally worth a shot!

nothing to lose, maybe a friend to gain and maybe stops the barking

Where was the part where she suggested that her dogs barking is your problem?

Exactly
she didn’t

she’s just trying to find a solution and making a nice suggestion

the op however….

Agree with this, sounds like a good way forwards.

Our dogs don't bark for hours a day. NDN have willingly let their dog bark for long periods for years now previously as our old dog didn't. Our's are called in after 2 woofs and pulled indoors.

I still don't understand the breeder at the back at the house or the significance of school summer break in any of this.

Yes I understand

and she is trying to find what sounds like a pleasant solution

however… I think she rather misjudged… you!

There's a breeder at the back of our house with dogs barking all day,...until School summer break where the neighbours expect to be able to let their untrained dog to continue to bark as much as it likes.

is this some kind of code?

Legally prolonged barking is a noise nuisance. I've looked in to this because our ndn dogs were allowed to bark as long as they like, making us spend little to no time in our garden. Meanwhile we've managed to train our reactive rescue dog to not bark back at theirs 🤔
Any barking that is perceived by a neighbour as being a nuisance is in law a nuisance. So basically it doesn't have to be barking for hours, just long enough to cause distress. And it sounds as though it is for you.
They had complained to us about some building work (the houses aren't attached), and after that had finished we were subjected to longer periods including howling and whining and anti social hours. This was distressing because obviously the dog was distressed. I wrote to my neighbours, because they don't interact, and included a small list of the anti social hours their dogs barked
They have been more proactive when their dogs bark. It had been mentioned to them before, but citing what I'd seen online seems to have made more impact.
It's sad because we've never not got on with neighbours before.

It’s certainly an emotive subject isn’t it! Dogs that are reactive in a prolonged way are anxious dogs, it’s easy to tell the difference it owners don’t want to admit it, one because they ‘love their dogs and their dogs are just being dogs, or two, it means they have to actually do something and they don’t want to.

Apologies for my atrocious grammar, I’m tired and can’t be bothered.

My OP was a little ambiguous, hopefully this is a little clearer.

NDN have had their dog for 8 years from a puppy and seem to have done little training with it. It's always barked in the garden for hours at a time. Our old dog wasn't a barker, so didn't trigger their dog to bark more frequently or escalate it's behaviour. It did distress my dog, but I'm sure that never occurred to them.

I brought up the dog breeders to point out that there is an existing level of frequent dog noise, so it shouldn't have been to difficult to train their puppy to be less reactive. With it being the summer holidays, they want to have their dog outside with them, but it's behaving so loudly, it now seems to bother them as they're shouting at the dog to try to get it to be quiet (which they have never bothered to do before).

My old dog died, we got two younger dogs who will occasionally bark if they hear another dog bark. I've been allowing them to bark once or twice and then they usually bring themselves indoors, or occasionally I may need to go out and bring them in. This is normally when NDN's dog starts because it barks so much and so loudly. By the sounds of it, their dog is also jumping at/chewing the fence and that's why the neighbour is now bothered.

I personally think she just needs to train her dog to come inside (or use some other distraction technique) when it's being a nuisance, instead she stands in the garden shouting at it which only makes it more noisy. I don't see how meeting my dogs will really hep the situation. If anything, it may make it worse if they want to get to each other to play!

So what you’re saying is… you won’t go on the walk or you will?

and if her dog is always barking and your dogs bark when other dogs bark… then sounds like all the dogs are barking 😆

Thanks, I've learnt to filter out their dog's barking now, so it's only really a problem in that I can't let my dogs out as much as I would like to when NDN's is in the garden. We're hoping to move next year to somewhere with a bigger garden and fewer neighbours, so I'm not looking to complain or rock the boat with them.

It did feel a bit like NDN was trying to put the problem of her dog barking back on me. She showed no interest in meeting my previous dog, presumably because he never made a sound and wasn't setting off her dog and inconveniencing her. I don't think I can do anything more my end as I'm getting my dogs to come in each time their's starts barking and have never allowed them to bark for prolonged periods in the first place.

She’s trying to find a solution op
and you’re seeing shadows

There's a big difference between a dog woofing once or twice and then stopping to a dog constantly barking. Her dog will bark constantly when it's out in the garden. Mine will woof once or twice in response, then come inside and stop barking, so no mine aren't barking frequently and for long periods of time. Some days they won't bark at all outside.

I can take one of my dogs out with her's if she gets back to me. The other is too new and nervous to be meeting dogs (particularly barky untrained ones) right now. I don't see how them meeting will help her dog be less loud though!

Because if the dogs know each other they may feel less territorial and inclined to guard the perimeter.

This walk…. Oh to be a fly on the wall! 😆