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What breed of dog wouldn’t you have again?

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PizzaSophiaLoren · 24/06/2025 23:28

We have a little Beagle/Poodle cross and my word she had the worst characteristics of both. Stupid, disobedient and scent driven like a Beagle. Fussy with food and snappy like a miniature poodle. We do love her despite this.

This evening she pushed us to the limit by chasing rabbits for two hours in the local tiny park. Her recall goes out of the window when she is scent triggered. We thought she’d got better. But no, she’s still a dick.

What breed or cross of dog would you never get again and why?

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stnvcfo · 25/06/2025 14:57

Just wanted to stick up for beagles! We have a 8 year old female and she’s a complete delight - so good with kids and just a really lovely, funny character. Runs off occasionally and has the time of her life in the field opposite but a really lovely dog.

DramaAlpaca · 25/06/2025 15:12

I've had four working springers and DH has had many more as he grew up with them. I love the breed, but by god - the energy! Current lad is ten and nowhere near slowing down.

I've noticed that the two we had from eight week old pups have been a delight, bonded to us, trained easily and were loyal and loveable. The one who came to us at 16 weeks was gorgeous and had a lovely nature, but she could be a bit of a diva, was very greedy and had zero recall. However, she walked beautifully on the lead and was oblivious to other dogs so outside she was fine. The rescue one who we got as an adult was a bossy nightmare who thought she ruled the roost, had no recall at all and was quite frankly a pain in the arse.

The female we had from a pup was lovely, really sweet and cuddly and great with kids, but she had a very strong prey drive. I once watched her catch a rat in the garden, it wasn't pretty. If she got the scent of a hare out on a walk off-lead she'd be off like a streak of lightning.

Current boy is a dream dog, the best ever, loving, cuddly, clever, obedient and his recall is incredible. He can be a field away, but one quick whistle and he's by my side. His only downsides are that he is a velcro dog who wants to be cuddled all the time, and he hates walking on a lead. DH takes him up the mountains where he can run loose, and every walk has to end with a swim as he's a mud magnet. He'll be our last, he's irreplaceable and we are getting close to retirement and want to be able to travel at the drop of a hat.

As for breeds I wouldn't have - quite a lot. Chihuahuas have to be at the top of my list, I like dogs and they usually love me, but it's been mutual loathing with every single one I've ever met - yappy, snarly things. Beagles, just based on the one my neighbours have because it never stops barking. My friend has a cockapoo, which is quite simply the most neurotic dog ever and thick to boot. I wouldn't want a brachycephalic breed for the obvious health reasons, and I would never have a staffy type because if they want to hurt you, they can.

WhereHasMyPlanetGone · 25/06/2025 15:14

I reckon my 2 beagles are defective as they never bark! My old boy used to howl when we played a particular game with him, but that’s it. The current one used to bark a couple of times when another dog walked past our front gate but she soon learned she got brought straight in if she did that.

Nackyposter · 25/06/2025 15:30

LandSharksAnonymous · 25/06/2025 14:30

I think mixing breeds in general is a bad idea for two reasons (A) You cannot be sure what characteristics you will get and (B) they are never the best examples of their breed.

People do it to try and have the 'best dog possible,' because they want the 'best characteristics' of those dogs. There's something about either the Bernese or the Golden they dont like - right? Otherwise they'd have bought the pedigree. The problem is, you very often don't know what you are getting. You could end up in a situation (which many people have) where you have the worst traits of two breeds. It's why rescues such as Spaniel Aid are so full of these 'designer doodles.' With pedigree breeding, it's easier to know what you're getting - particularly if you use a good breeder.

I see the argument a lot that it results in healthier dogs. But, as I mentioned above, this isn't true. I've just had a litter and the girl I bred from has a 3/3 hip score (which is excellent - breed average is 18 altogether, and hers is 6 altogether - and I have never seen a dog with better in 20 years of being involved in the breed). I have spent years breeding Goldies to have the healthiest dogs possible. I would never, ever, use her to breed anything other than Goldies. I breed to make my breed better and so do all the breeders I know that I would recommend (and those are the breeders with the healthiest dogs). That means that the sorts of dogs that are used to breed mongrels (for lack of a better phrase as we're not talking doodles anymore) are never the best examples of their breeds. They're not the healthiest. They're not the best bred.

People say that mixing breeds means you avoid possible things like dysplasia, but as I've shown above, that's also not true. Bernese and Goldies are both prone to cancer, dysplasia and heart disease. Breeding the two doesn't lessen the risk of your dog developing any of those issues. In fact, it makes it harder to find out how health your puppy might be because chances are you can't find generational health tests (which, although I have many issues with the KC - they do make it very easy).

With a pedigree, you can be more certain of health tests being done generationally. For example, I provide 3 full generations of health tests and a further 2 generations of 'mostly complete' - as heart tests weren't really done ten years ago and although that still means my dogs are fully health tested under KC requirements, they're not in my eyes as heart defects in Goldies are quite serious.

But with these other mongrels (again for lack of a better phrase) most often you might get the parents, but they won't be the best of the breed, and you almost certainly won't get grandparents. It's like humans: just because the parents are healthy, doesn't mean the grandparents were.

I would say, in theory I have nothing against these breeds. But I hate the idea of dogs being used for breeding that aren't the best example of their breed and where the breeder is negligent in choosing the sire/dam - we have enough defective dogs in the world, we don't need more!

Sorry that was a lot...

Really great information here.

StrikeForever · 25/06/2025 15:50

Heartofmetal · 25/06/2025 12:37

I have cavapoos who make my life miserable daily. I have yet to meet a poodle mix dog that isn’t a bastard…never again 😩

I never understood the trend.

HangingOver · 25/06/2025 15:53

Also, much as I'd seriously warn anyone about rescuing a Podenco (I mean SERIOUSLY warn them).... I would actually quite like another one now 😆

Summerbean · 25/06/2025 15:55

HangingOver · 25/06/2025 15:53

Also, much as I'd seriously warn anyone about rescuing a Podenco (I mean SERIOUSLY warn them).... I would actually quite like another one now 😆

Oh go on...what are they like?
I met a gorgeous one a couple of weeks ago

28andgreat · 25/06/2025 16:00

Golden Retriever for me!

The shedding, the smell, the clinginess, the lack of ability to listen when doesn't feel like it.

3luckystars · 25/06/2025 16:10

Are dachshunds really that bad? They have been mentioned a few times on this thread but they are so cute, I would love one.

They couldn’t not be as bad as a beagle anyway. Nothing could match them. My MIL who is a dog expert and bred many litters, her last beagle broke her heart. Would climb up on the table for food and there was no training her. She jumped an 8 foot wall once. A total nightmare.

opaltimer1 · 25/06/2025 16:17

Spaniel and lab. In fact, I’d never get another dog again, they are far too much hard work and expense.

LoveSandbanks · 25/06/2025 16:40

MaryGreenhill · 25/06/2025 06:02

No to a Springer Spaniel, Collie, Staffy, any fur shedding dog,
I would probably go for a Lurcher.

We have a lurcher that we rescued at 8 months. We honestly only kept him at one point because it felt too cruel to leave him to a life bouncing between rescues. Even the vets acknowledge that he’s a complete plonker.

Hes noisy, barks a lot but also “talks”. Argues back if you say no. He’s very demanding and wants shit loads of stimulation. Steals food, is tall enough to reach almost anywhere.

He is very friendly, almost too friendly and gets in the face of every dog and human he comes across. Hes not remotely aggressive (thank God) but is still an absolute fucking tool and I’d never get another one but he’s definitely our tool and we love him to bits.

fwiw, he’s not full sighthound, he’s a bull breed crossed with a greyhound

Koinophobia · 25/06/2025 16:40

NeedForSpeed · 25/06/2025 14:11

Pedigree of what though? The original breeds or crossbreeds?

Why were pedigree dogs put up for breeding with another breed of dog?

I do have a problem with the fashion for poodle crosses - people are breeding them, calling them designer dogs and charging pedigree prices, you can't predict the outcome of a cross breed, and the dogs seem to be highly neurotic.

My own adopted (we call her second hand) mutt required a DNA test to identify her dubious parentage. Her parents must have been crosses, as her grandparents were some sort of combo of border collie, greyhound, malamute and husky.... So she's stubborn, intelligent, high prey driven dog who runs at an insane speed. She also has separation anxiety, and a coat that blows constantly. There was clearly ZERO planning going into her breeding and she was diagnosed with arthritis in her wrists aged 5. Not sure what tests could ever have been done to predict the health of a mutt.

A pedigree cavalier and a pedigree poodle.
Obviously you don't get a pedigree cross breed.

Why were pedigree dogs put up for breeding with another dog? So that the owner of the pet dog who was a pedigree could charge a premium for the puppies I suppose. However from my pov it was useful because I can see that both parents are from good quality stock, have no interbreeding in their 3 generation history, and are DNA clear of PRA and EF, and no heart murmurs. It was mum's e
Second litter (her first were pedigree Cavs) and she was 6.

From my pov we would have got a cavalier for the temperament, but a close family member had just lost their cav who had been poorly bred, had a serious heart murmur, two cataracts, and died from sudden onset paralysis (PTS) aged 9. We hoped a cross breed would give us some cav gentleness but avoid some of the breed specific issues.

People will sniff and say we were done, which is fine, but we are very happy with our dog.

Arrearing50 · 25/06/2025 16:54

Agree @LandSharksAnonymous friend has a doodle x and the vet bills have been constant since she got it. And she was keen to tell me how it would have superior health to a pedigree.

any dog can be unlucky of course.

HangingOver · 25/06/2025 17:16

Summerbean · 25/06/2025 15:55

Oh go on...what are they like?
I met a gorgeous one a couple of weeks ago

They're.... unique. Aloof but quietly affectionate. Bugger all recall. Insane hunting drive. Can jump a 6ft fence from standing. React to bird, leaves and passing cars with a particular 'battle cry'. Have only two modes, Rapid and Couch Potato. Very funny.

In our case, the combination of being a foreign rescue, cycling through three homes and being a teenager meant I cried every day for two months when I first got him. It was 'starting on hard mode' as my trainer said. There's four whole threads on MN about the Pod experience if you're interested.

Handsome prick.

What breed of dog wouldn’t you have again?
ButteredRadish · 25/06/2025 17:16

PizzaSophiaLoren · 24/06/2025 23:28

We have a little Beagle/Poodle cross and my word she had the worst characteristics of both. Stupid, disobedient and scent driven like a Beagle. Fussy with food and snappy like a miniature poodle. We do love her despite this.

This evening she pushed us to the limit by chasing rabbits for two hours in the local tiny park. Her recall goes out of the window when she is scent triggered. We thought she’d got better. But no, she’s still a dick.

What breed or cross of dog would you never get again and why?

Poor dog. Please rehome her

ButteredRadish · 25/06/2025 17:25

@Ophy83Thats extremely unusual for a miniature schnauzer. They’re friendly, happy little dogs. My mum’s family bred them since the 1930s. Every one of them that they’ve kept has been goofy, loving, friendly and funny! - and just as I typed that, our 4 month old mini schnauzer pup is trying to climb onto my shoulder like a parrot!

Summerbean · 25/06/2025 17:37

He's gorgeous! I'll take a look at the threads

ButteredRadish · 25/06/2025 17:37

*Schnauzers are prone to woofing at vacuum cleaners and postmen…. Oh and anyone who dares to walk down the street (the audacity!) but they’re not aggressive at all. Not by nature of the breed, anyway. If you’ve encountered an aggressive one then that dog has endured something horrendous in its lifetime, without a doubt.

HailtotheBop · 25/06/2025 18:11

Border collies! My friend has three and they are, both individually and collectively, a real handful. Beautiful dogs, but high maintenance and need a lot of exercise and stimulation. My friend does flyball with her dogs and they're extremely well trained, just too high energy for me. I'm a greyhound person - 40mph couch potatoes!

RedRosie · 25/06/2025 18:16

I'd never have a border collie again. We had a couple of rescue ones growing up (and I know some now). I loved ours so much. But they are anxious and needy and eternally on edge. I never believe they are properly relaxed and happy in a domestic setting... and that makes me sad.

I've heard beagles are bastards. 😁

Muddlingalongsomehow · 25/06/2025 18:32

myplace · 25/06/2025 07:04

What’s a chihuahua’s job? They’ve always struck me as at the spectacularly useless end of the spectrum. @ForestFox44 ?

They don’t even bark properly, they quack.

Friends in USA had a brilliant one. A troubled soul, a rescue dog that had been abused so quite fraught. But once she knew you - she was great. Super intelligent and affectionate. She didn't see me for three years and was really calm and friendly and happy to see me when I arrived.

Muddlingalongsomehow · 25/06/2025 18:39

I'm hesitating here. I am more team cat than dog. But daughter and son in law adopted a retired racing greyhound. Beautiful dog. Took a while to become domesticated and enjoy all the treats and home comforts, but did so and was a wonderful character and we all adored her. But after only 8 months, aged 4, she died suddenly, slightly enlarged heart. The racing life had taken too big a toll. We were all in pieces. Still are. The howl of grief from my daughter in the vet's surgery as they had to give up CPR will haunt me for ever.

FlatWhiteExtraHot · 25/06/2025 18:40

ButteredRadish · 25/06/2025 17:16

Poor dog. Please rehome her

Don’t be ridiculous. She states quite clearly she loves her dog. There’s enough dogs in rescue without adding one with a perfectly good home and loving owners 🤦‍♀️.

TheDogsMother · 25/06/2025 18:59

Notchangingnameagain · 25/06/2025 14:52

My jack zhu is an absolute tit.

please tell me the breed name is a Jack Shit 🤣🤣

TheDogsMother · 25/06/2025 19:09

We had a Parson Terrier who was an absolute bugger. An odd mix of needy, loyal, disobedient and fear reactive round other dogs. He was a brilliant character though and much loved at our local pub. Mad as it sounds I would probably have another 🙄

After he died we joined Borroiw My Doggy and looked after a cockapoo once a week for five years. He was a happy boy, loved a walk but loved to chill too. Not at all needy or anxious and was a dream to look after following the Parsons.

Another one we borrowed for two years was absolute perfection in canine form. A labradoodle who was beautiful, athletic, obedient and fun. If I could have kept her I would have.