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Downsides of buying a trained puppy/dog?

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GreenDragonisLoose · 23/05/2025 21:45

I'm looking into buying a ready-trained young labrador, rather than a puppy and training it myself.

So you pick the sex, traits that you want, and it comes toilet trained, with recall, house manners etc.

Any downsides to this? Seems too good to be true so I must be missing something?!

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crumblingschools · 26/05/2025 11:54

I seem to have gone down a rabbit hole with this website. Obviously designed for people with money and no idea about dogs. Scroll to the bottom of the page

hillsidepawsforlife.co.uk/delivery-of-puppies/

Coffeeishot · 26/05/2025 12:19

I did a search I had no idea these" trained puppy" breeders existed , maybe the op wanted us to do a search which is quite stealthy isn't it?

Coffeeishot · 26/05/2025 12:21

crumblingschools · 26/05/2025 11:54

I seem to have gone down a rabbit hole with this website. Obviously designed for people with money and no idea about dogs. Scroll to the bottom of the page

hillsidepawsforlife.co.uk/delivery-of-puppies/

I'd shut the door in Buddy's face 😂

brushingboots · 26/05/2025 12:56

@LandSharksAnonymous I'm sure you're right that most of what is being discussed is Bad News; perhaps what I'm talking about is really a different thing entirely!

TheGrimSmile · 26/05/2025 13:01

You will miss bonding at the critical age with the dog.

OccasionalHope · 26/05/2025 13:02

That is either a shameless puppy farm or outright scam pretending to be a puppy farm.

If you google the address it’s a small 3 bed house.

TicklishJoker · 26/05/2025 13:05

brushingboots · 26/05/2025 10:33

Respectfully @LandSharksAnonymous (and I use that in the true sense, not the 'pretending not to be rude' sense) the places that I know of that do this are not rip-off versions of puppy farms, and sadly £7k won’t cut it either – and the rest!

There seems to be some general confusion about all of this. I’m sure there are some dodgy places that promise the earth but all of the kennels I know, as a writer on (among other things) gundogs, fieldsports and beyond, do an amazing job with the fully-trained dogs they produce. They’re not runts or ‘defective’. They’re not broken. They’re brand-new puppies, fresh from mum like any other well-bred dogs. They have pet life experience, working life experience, they take turns living in the house so they’re not ‘kennel dogs’, they do real-world socialisation, they go in the car, to the pub, out on shoots, get handled by kids etc etc. At Mordor they film the puppies’ journeys so you can literally see it – on Youtube and on Instagram.

I have been up to Mordor and asked a lot of questions, and I have interviewed owners of Mordor fully-trained dogs too. The dogs adapt super quickly to their new homes, and their owners have life-long support. I’m not doing his PR for him because he definitely does not need that but I do feel obliged to explain the process a bit.

I know someone else not mentioned on @Lougle’s list who does this. She’s a wonderful trainer, she breeds various different gundog breeds from her established lines and has both a fully-trained and a part-trained programme now where you can have a pup from a litter and she keeps it to train until whatever age/level agreed. You get the kind of dog you want from her – you can choose what kind of training they get, and are fully involved with the process along with her. Her dogs are extraordinary and the set-up is lovely.

Would I get a fully-trained one from her or anyone else? No! But that’s not because the dogs I know from these kennels aren’t amazing, it’s just because I enjoy training my dog myself. I'd have one of their pups though, for sure. If I had the money for a Mordor (say) spaniel and I was a shipping magnate or an oil tycoon without much free time to train a dog, I’d get one, sure! But I’m not and I do have time, which is why I have a two-year-old cocker that I’ve trained myself. Is she to the same standard? No, because I’m not a trainer – but she is decent.

I think this is a pretty fair and balanced perspective.

I’m currently on my first dog and we got her at 11 weeks and did our best with training, working with trainers, classes and behaviourists. She’s far from perfect and maybe there would have been gains from getting something in the scenario of Mordor or the likes that you mention.

What I think that misses, however, is that I (and my partner) also needed to be trained and develop as part of the growing process. For better or worse. We’ve learned soo much and made so many mistakes that I think are part of life and learning. And would stand us in good stead for a future dog, whilst improving and doing our best with our current girl 🐶.

redboxer321 · 26/05/2025 13:09

I don't know anything about the Mordor set up or the dogs they produce.
But what I do know is that writers' write, and then their writing is edited, so that it appeals to the readers of the publication for which they are writing.
The article linked earlier in the thread may be completely accurate but its aim is to provide a story for the reader, not to expose bad practices in dog training and breeding.

MyRickkyBaer · 26/05/2025 13:17

crumblingschools · 26/05/2025 11:54

I seem to have gone down a rabbit hole with this website. Obviously designed for people with money and no idea about dogs. Scroll to the bottom of the page

hillsidepawsforlife.co.uk/delivery-of-puppies/

Hmm furries. 🤔

Dstoat · 26/05/2025 13:29

It’s a good choice and one more people should make especially when first time owners. So long as your committed to carrying on the training for the life of the dog and understand you’re not buying a finished product.

SpanielsGalore · 26/05/2025 13:46

I think there is a world of difference between breeders like Mordor (for example) and that Hillside place. The former sells working dogs to working homes. My dogs' breeder sometimes has older part trained puppies for sale, although they are ones that haven't made the grade rather than been bred and trained purposelý for sale. The latter seems to be a glorified puppy farm.
£4,200 for a 4 month old GR? How much training will she have had?
Delivered to your home, so you can't see the awful conditions our dogs are kept in.
Anyone who pays those prices needs their head checking. You could get 10 nicely trained, well behaved rescues for that. Or buy a puppy from a decent breeder and spend £1000s on 1 to 1 training lessons.

Coffeeishot · 26/05/2025 13:49

MyRickkyBaer · 26/05/2025 13:17

Hmm furries. 🤔

I think its supposed to be a mascot tbf !

GreenDragonisLoose · 26/05/2025 14:16

Thank you so much to the mumsnetter who has taken the time to message and was quite right about my circumstances, she very kindly put me in touch with a very reputable breeder.

I've now chatted with the breeder and she's able to help me with exactly what I need - I'm very hopeful! 😊 🙏

Super grateful to all the posters for their input and dialogue on the thread too, even those that were a tad judgemental, as I know their hearts were in the right place. 🐾

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Gundogday · 26/05/2025 14:46

@GreenDragonisLoose If and when you get a dog, please post a picture.

CoubousAndTourmalet · 26/05/2025 14:49

@GreenDragonisLoose Good luck. I hope you find your perfect dog.

EdithStourton · 26/05/2025 14:56

lionbrain · 26/05/2025 08:45

Or the breeder has dismissed the dog for breeding or showing as they have a health issue or are not the right temperament and you pick up a dog that costs you loads in ongoing treatment and behaviour issues........

The same can be said for buying a puppy, though...

crumblingschools · 26/05/2025 15:42

Make sure it is a reputable breeder @GreenDragonisLoose As can be down by the website I linked to, looks great at first but digging deeper doesn’t look so good!

VickyEadieofThigh · 27/05/2025 16:17

Coffeeishot · 26/05/2025 12:21

I'd shut the door in Buddy's face 😂

(Only quoting this post as it has the link I've just looked at)

That Hillside place - can supply a massive range of breeds - yet quotes the law stating it's illegal to bring more than 3 litters of pups into the world per year and claims it's compliant with that law.

How can that possibly be true? It has to be the front for a load of puppy farms.

Wolfiefan · 27/05/2025 21:58

@GreenDragonisLoose you need to do your own due diligence. A breed club should always be the starting point when looking for a pedigree.
Check how many dogs they own and how often each bitch has a litter. Expect to be interviewed and maybe home checked. Expect the puppy to be endorsed and come with a contract too.

crumblingschools · 27/05/2025 22:17

I think under the new rules for breeders you have to see the mum when buying a puppy under 6 months old. I guess these companies get round this rule by giving you a ‘trained’ dog over 6 months old

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