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New puppy crying unless held and walked about.

30 replies

PuppyDay · 21/05/2025 07:02

We picked up our puppy yesterday and he is very sweet but cried u less helped and paced with. He slept in the crate overnight and was ok but as soon as he’s awake he cries wither with happiness or overwhelm unless cuddled and walled back and forth. How do we handle this????

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LandSharksAnonymous · 21/05/2025 07:24

You give him what he needs? He’s clearly very young and terrified - he needs reassurance. I’m sure you can sit him on the floor and cuddle him and fuss him. Try that. It’s day one.

You don’t have to walk with him - no breeder has the time or energy to do that with one pup when they have a whole litter to work with. So that will never have been done until you started doing it.

And your breeder should have given advice about the first week - how the puppy will react etc. That being said, well adjusted and socialised puppies don’t have this extreme a reaction - so take from that what you will

24Dogcuddler · 21/05/2025 07:35

Have you got a blanket or toy from the breeder with the scent of Mum and the litter? That should help. He will wonder what’s going on and need reassurance.
When you say slept in the crate overnight were you there? If not he will probably have got very worked up then.
The cuddly dog toys with the hearbeat feature are great for helping a puppy who has been used to sleeping in the litter. Really early days enjoy cuddles.

PuppyDay · 21/05/2025 08:43

Yes he has a blanket that smells like home but he’s used to being one of seven puppies with mum and dad and another adult dog in the house.

he was fine in the crate overnight and didn’t cry after the first two minutes. But now he howls when put back in or even sat next to us on the floor.

obviously we are giving lots of reassurance but he’s just so vo

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Bbq1 · 21/05/2025 08:48

He's a young puppy and is, at this stage, just a baby. Just cuddle him, play with him, reassure him. You don't need to be walking up and down carrying him.

survivingunderarock · 21/05/2025 09:02

A sling is great for wearing puppies while they settle in. You can get on with things then. They do gain confidence in a few weeks but only if you support them now.

faerietales · 21/05/2025 09:19

He’s a baby - he should never have been left alone in a crate all night with nobody around him for comfort - someone needs to sleep next to him for reassurance.

He’ll also need pretty much constant company during the day as well.

user2848502016 · 21/05/2025 09:24

Ah he’s just a baby. I would do what he wants for now and give him lots of attention - as PP said get a carrier so you can get stuff done, it will help you bond anyway. It won’t last long, once he gets a bit more confident and secure in his new surroundings.

Ylvamoon · 21/05/2025 12:51

I say it again, he's just a tiny baby...
And worse, he's lost everything he has known up to this point in life.

So just cuddle and reassure him - once he's comfortable in his new surroundings he'll be off doing what puppies do best!

ASDsenchild · 21/05/2025 12:53

We are going through the same and are having to just ignore it as it’s not sustainable to carry her about all the time. We have set times eg after playtime but then don’t give in as it will just lead to a needy dog

2024onwardsandup · 21/05/2025 12:54

faerietales · 21/05/2025 09:19

He’s a baby - he should never have been left alone in a crate all night with nobody around him for comfort - someone needs to sleep next to him for reassurance.

He’ll also need pretty much constant company during the day as well.

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ASDsenchild · 21/05/2025 12:55

2024onwardsandup · 21/05/2025 12:54

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We were told by the breeder that as long as puppy is safe and in their crate or pen that small amounts of time crying won’t harm them that you need to verbally reassure and redirect rather than carrying and cuddling constantly as it will lead to a nervous dog ?

GoldDuster · 21/05/2025 12:59

While I do understand that puppies are a lot of hard work, and need almost 24 hour attention when you first bring them home, I do not know of any benefit to pacing up and down holding them?

Try and take a step back, and think about what care they'd be receiving from ther mother. She wouldn't be carrying them around on her back to stop them whimpering if they were still with her. They need warmth and food and contact, and to be socialised well, get yourself enrolled with a reputable local trainer who can give you some advice to follow until the classes start.

Choconuttolata · 21/05/2025 13:12

We had a heart beat dog teddy that went in the crate with the pup. She used to come out for periods of cuddles, food and interaction and then when sleepy we put her back in the crate with this toy. Puppies are like newborns they need a lot more sleep and can get over stimulated then over tired. If the space in the crate is too large section it off and make it darker so it becomes more like a safe den space. We put a travel crate that was smaller with opaque cloth outer inside the larger crate.

Also put something with your smell like a previously worn t shirt in there if they find your smell comforting. It gets easier but the first few days they are just starting to bond with you and missing their mother and litter mates so need a lot more reassurance.

LandSharksAnonymous · 21/05/2025 13:20

ASDsenchild · 21/05/2025 12:55

We were told by the breeder that as long as puppy is safe and in their crate or pen that small amounts of time crying won’t harm them that you need to verbally reassure and redirect rather than carrying and cuddling constantly as it will lead to a nervous dog ?

Your breeder, if they said that, was speaking in 'certainties' in an uncertain situation.

Puppies should never be left to cry. Why? Because if you return when they are crying, they take their crying to have encouraged your return - i.e, they will likely cry more in the future to encourage you to return. Not only that, puppies can and do panic - and cause catastrophic injuries to themselves in the process (including in one case I know, dislocating their jaw). Verbal reassurance does literally nothing in those early days unless it is accompanies by something physical. Why? Because the puppy doesn't know you at all.

You wouldn't train a puppy to sit by yelling 'sit' at them, would you? No. You'd do the hand signals and luring first, then tack on the sit and then, eventually, the dog would learn to sit by itself with just the command. Building a relationship with your dog works in much the same way as training does - body signals, physical movement (and comfort) first, and then words later.

And showing affection to an eight week old puppy that has been taken away from everything it has ever known only does one thing - to build a bond between them and their new owner.

Honestly, your breeder sounds like a bit of a nitwit for giving that advice. Advice like that is more likely to cause dogs to behaviour in nervous ways and/or increase chances of separation anxiety. Particularly if it is taken as 'certainty' rather than 'in X or Y situation.'

faerietales · 21/05/2025 13:28

ASDsenchild · 21/05/2025 12:55

We were told by the breeder that as long as puppy is safe and in their crate or pen that small amounts of time crying won’t harm them that you need to verbally reassure and redirect rather than carrying and cuddling constantly as it will lead to a nervous dog ?

There’s a big gap between carrying and cuddling constantly, and leaving a puppy to howl in a crate, though.

SpanielsGalore · 21/05/2025 15:22

ASDsenchild · 21/05/2025 12:53

We are going through the same and are having to just ignore it as it’s not sustainable to carry her about all the time. We have set times eg after playtime but then don’t give in as it will just lead to a needy dog

This isn't true. Leaving a puppy to cry it out leads to a needy, unconfident dog with separation anxiety. Giving a puppy cuddles, attention and reassurance helps to raise a confident dog that will then be happy to be on their own.
I think your breeder gave you outdated information. That might have been the belief back in the day, but now research has taught us better methods.

AndImBrit · 21/05/2025 15:24

My puppy cried for days if we weren’t making eye contact. For 3 months I didn’t put her down or leave her. She was put to bed at night and we’d sit by the crate until she fell asleep, then mid way through the night would come back down to sit with her after toilet trips.

I now have a five year old independent dog who can be happily left for 6+ hours, and sleeps alone downstairs for ten hours without a peep.

The early days were a slog but I think are the foundations that her independence is built on - she could build a secure attachment and know we were always coming back.

Bupster · 21/05/2025 15:38

Puppies build attachment in the same way that babies do - by being certain that you will be there when they need you. If he's howling when you put him in the crate, don't put him in the crate. Give him what he needs - he's a tiny baby. He'll gain more confidence the more certain he is of you, and will gradually be happier and happier to explore by himself.

(ETA when my pup was really tiny I took him in a sling to the loo rather than leave him alone and upset. My rule of thumb was would I do it to a kid?)

AnnaBalfour · 21/05/2025 15:39

Cuddle him and walk him around?

survivingunderarock · 21/05/2025 15:57

LandSharksAnonymous · 21/05/2025 13:20

Your breeder, if they said that, was speaking in 'certainties' in an uncertain situation.

Puppies should never be left to cry. Why? Because if you return when they are crying, they take their crying to have encouraged your return - i.e, they will likely cry more in the future to encourage you to return. Not only that, puppies can and do panic - and cause catastrophic injuries to themselves in the process (including in one case I know, dislocating their jaw). Verbal reassurance does literally nothing in those early days unless it is accompanies by something physical. Why? Because the puppy doesn't know you at all.

You wouldn't train a puppy to sit by yelling 'sit' at them, would you? No. You'd do the hand signals and luring first, then tack on the sit and then, eventually, the dog would learn to sit by itself with just the command. Building a relationship with your dog works in much the same way as training does - body signals, physical movement (and comfort) first, and then words later.

And showing affection to an eight week old puppy that has been taken away from everything it has ever known only does one thing - to build a bond between them and their new owner.

Honestly, your breeder sounds like a bit of a nitwit for giving that advice. Advice like that is more likely to cause dogs to behaviour in nervous ways and/or increase chances of separation anxiety. Particularly if it is taken as 'certainty' rather than 'in X or Y situation.'

It’s more complex than that. You don’t want them to want you to come back. So you need to teach them very slowly at their pace that you going is fine, it’s boring and you’ll be back in a second or three hours and it’s all cool. When they’re crying they’re over threshold and can’t learn. They just shut down. So crying to return means they’ll learn to do this is a misnomer; they shouldn’t ever get to this stage.

Justkeepingplatesspinning · 22/05/2025 00:10

Both our dogs who we had from tiny pups got cuddles and sat on our knees as a matter of course. If the pup has left mum then it's missing her smell, sound, playing with littermates. You're it's new mum. I worked with them on my knee or next to me doing marking and prep, and they quickly learned to sleep or play at work times.
Our dogs still like to come for cuddles. They also know when it's nap time because I'm working. It's not going to harm them giving cuddles.

TippledPink · 22/05/2025 00:17

Even with adult dogs they need you in those first few weeks- I got a 19 month old and was told she sleeps in a crate all night, house trained etc. For the 1st two weeks that was not the dog we got! I had to sleep downstairs with her to give her comfort and reassurance, her whole world had changed. She whined when left at night and pooped constantly in the house. Eventually she trusted us and felt secure and that version of her is long gone! I can imagine how it would be 10 X more intense with a puppy!

Hollyhedge · 22/05/2025 00:20

PuppyDay · 21/05/2025 07:02

We picked up our puppy yesterday and he is very sweet but cried u less helped and paced with. He slept in the crate overnight and was ok but as soon as he’s awake he cries wither with happiness or overwhelm unless cuddled and walled back and forth. How do we handle this????

Carry him until he feels better. Must miss his mum 💕

HangingOver · 22/05/2025 00:22

TippledPink · 22/05/2025 00:17

Even with adult dogs they need you in those first few weeks- I got a 19 month old and was told she sleeps in a crate all night, house trained etc. For the 1st two weeks that was not the dog we got! I had to sleep downstairs with her to give her comfort and reassurance, her whole world had changed. She whined when left at night and pooped constantly in the house. Eventually she trusted us and felt secure and that version of her is long gone! I can imagine how it would be 10 X more intense with a puppy!

Same. My rescue was a year and he slept ON me for the first few weeks. We lovebombed him. He's very independent now

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