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Adolescent Dog Survival Thread - Bark the Herald, furry angels sing!

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YorkshireFelix · 26/11/2024 23:01

New thread to get us through the festive season! Angelic and naughty teenage pups all welcome Halo

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YorkshireFelix · 05/01/2025 14:21

@Nella68 This is a safe space as we all agree the doghouse is absolutely crackers 🤣 also love the name Midge!

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YorkshireFelix · 05/01/2025 14:22

He looks miserable because I was making him sit for a photo instead of run around gleefully chomping the snow!

Adolescent Dog Survival Thread - Bark the Herald, furry angels sing!
Adolescent Dog Survival Thread - Bark the Herald, furry angels sing!
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CoubousAndTourmalet · 05/01/2025 14:30

No judgements here @Nella68 this and the puppy survival thread are different.
I'm equally frowned upon on MN for having a guarding breed; the general thought seems to be that anything larger than a Lab is going to kill your entire family 🙄

LibisMum · 05/01/2025 14:33

tizwozliz · 04/01/2025 18:19

A vet nurse at our practice tried to tell me once that I couldn't feed working dog food if she wasn't working

What was the logic there?

my guess is there is no logic - except she probably assumed it was "high energy" food.

The interesting factoid is that any food labelled for "working dogs" is free of VAT. Pet dog food has VAT added. Hence, pretty much all raw dog food companies make their food for "working" dogs.

brushingboots · 05/01/2025 15:14

@Nella68 aha! Def no judgement here, you're safe with us.

As he’s got gundog genes (even if not recently) he's quite biddable, I'm guessing? I always talk about ‘working with’ my spaniel, and though they’re different breeds you can apply the same ideas. You can easily play lots of hide and seek – we do it around hay bales in fields – but also finding games so he gets that the fun comes from you and that he gets rewarded when he engages with you and not other dogs. With my girlie I drop balls and dummies in long grass when she’s not looking and then ask her to find them, always making sure she hasn’t spotted the drop so she gets a genuine prize from the game. When she was younger we used to do it when other dogs were approaching – I would send her away from me only slightly on a ‘job’ and then reward when she succeeded, which she would, as it would be an easy ‘job’. Then she began to associate other (strange) dogs approaching with ‘oh mum’s got a job for me’, and now that more or less translates to her turning round to see me, and ask for permission to approach or, more likely, dive into a hedge as she will choose pheasant scent over any dog any day.

In general I reward madly for every single good decision, be it with a treat or a little cuddle. She isn’t particularly food motivated and lots of dogs aren’t so sometimes I use a dummy retrieve as the reward too so she’s got to come back to me and then she gets rewarded again so it’s a virtuous circle.

A caveat to all of this is that I think a lot of it comes with age. I have worked a lot on our offlead heel and now, much to my surprise, she consistently offers the behaviour to me without being asked and we get through a lot more dog pate on walks now as I reward it every single time. I honestly reckon only about half of that is training and the rest is that she’s now 18.5 months and she’s grown up.

brushingboots · 05/01/2025 15:16

@LibisMum I'm sure that's true! It was just all wrong and I mentioned it the next time I was in to see another vet nurse, as it was when pupsy was going in monthly for her puppy checks, and was told to ignore. Just made me chuckle at the time, afterwards, in the car.

The VAT thing is indeed essential knowledge! I've 'recruited' (lol) loads of people round here onto Skinners just with the VAT saving. It does help that we live very near an excellent ag shop.

YorkshireFelix · 05/01/2025 16:00

I didn't realise that re working dog food!

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CoubousAndTourmalet · 05/01/2025 16:13

I got Brie a bag of Large Breed Salmon kibble a couple of months ago from a website called Working HPR's whose prices are good and have no VAT. https://www.workinghprs.co.uk/

I prefer to use a kibble that has high meat content and isn't grain heavy, and this place had some good options. We used to get the lamb, potato, mint option of a working dog food for our previous boy so we were aware of this but as they're LGD we think they qualify 😁

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Nella68 · 05/01/2025 16:37

@brushingboots thank you for the ideas. We live on the edge of a city so not many hay bales near us. We have a park with woodland opposite us, so when it’s quiet (rarely) I hide behind the trees. This keeps him occupied for a while. The trouble we have is lots and lots of off lead dogs that tempt him away. I sometimes have him on the long line but that gets tangled around the trees.
What I have been doing is a lot of close work, so rewarding him if he sticks by me and changing direction etc. He’s pretty good at this until there’s another dog…
I really don’t want him to think he can play with any dog. He’s too big and bouncy for a lot of the small dogs. I have found that with small old dogs he’s getting much better at reading their body language and he doesn’t bounce on them, he’ll sniff and copy them when they’re sniffing you the ground etc.

tizwozliz · 05/01/2025 18:55

Spot the difference!

Adolescent Dog Survival Thread - Bark the Herald, furry angels sing!
tizwozliz · 05/01/2025 18:56

Pup has declared Christmas is over!

We had a good covering of snow, but it had already turned to rain when we got up and was all very wet and slushy.

Adolescent Dog Survival Thread - Bark the Herald, furry angels sing!
Nella68 · 05/01/2025 19:02

@tizwozliz oh no- a disembowelled Santa!

Christmas also over here. Think the pup is so over the decorations he didn’t even try to chase the tinsel as he did when we were putting it on the tree.

Midge sucks his toys- he hasn’t destroyed any yet

YorkshireFelix · 05/01/2025 19:13

tizwozliz · 05/01/2025 18:55

Spot the difference!

Wow!!

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CaptainBeanThief · 05/01/2025 19:25

😂😂😂😂😂😂

lookwhatyoumademedoo · 06/01/2025 18:21

Happy new year everyone and i hope you had a lovely christmas if you celebrate.
We've had another snow day today, kids should have been back at school but they closed because of the weather as did my work so we've had an extra day off together.
I've been busy working on some training with Max, i can't remember if it was on this thread but i read about using pate for training. If it was on here, can anyone recommend a decent one please?
The snow has meant that as soon as max sees another dog coming towards him he absolutely must see if the dog wants to play and when i call him away he must run back to the dog at least 3 times!

lookwhatyoumademedoo · 06/01/2025 18:22

here he is enjoying the snow with my eldest.

Adolescent Dog Survival Thread - Bark the Herald, furry angels sing!
CaptainBeanThief · 06/01/2025 18:34

This will be the last picture I post of Milo,
I've found recently, certain posters are bending over backwards to contradict every little thing I say - everything I say is wrong and they do it better and I'm quite fed up of it tbh. This thread has given me invaluable advice on Milo and it used to feel like a safe space however there is alot of passive agressive-ness going on.
Take care from me and Milo.

Adolescent Dog Survival Thread - Bark the Herald, furry angels sing!
tizwozliz · 06/01/2025 18:35

We use JR Pate. It's complete so don't need to worry too much about how much you use, just adjust meals accordingly.

Always had far more success with a ball or toys as a reward out and about. My older one especially was never too fussed about food rewards outside of the house.

Bupster · 06/01/2025 18:39

lookwhatyoumademedoo · 06/01/2025 18:21

Happy new year everyone and i hope you had a lovely christmas if you celebrate.
We've had another snow day today, kids should have been back at school but they closed because of the weather as did my work so we've had an extra day off together.
I've been busy working on some training with Max, i can't remember if it was on this thread but i read about using pate for training. If it was on here, can anyone recommend a decent one please?
The snow has meant that as soon as max sees another dog coming towards him he absolutely must see if the dog wants to play and when i call him away he must run back to the dog at least 3 times!

Might have been me? I get mine from Paws Trading or Anco - I think JR pet products might do it too. I like the rabbit from Paws Trading best, it seems to be like crack cocaine for dogs.

Bupster · 06/01/2025 18:39

Does anyone else have a pup who's absolutely frantic when you get home? He's never left alone for more than a few minutes, so this is when I pick him up from daycare or leave him with a sitter. Tonight I was gone for 90 minutes and he was with someone he's known for months and adores - but still, when I got back, I had five-ten minutes of him frantically jumping and trying to bite my nose off. I love being missed, and it's a nice problem to have, but I do need the nose!

Scattering treats gives me seconds of respite. Tonight he was so desperate to get to my nose he managed to jump onto the dining table from a standing start twice, and he's really not that tall 😂

CoubousAndTourmalet · 06/01/2025 18:43

@CaptainBeanThief
I'm sorry you feel this way. You'll be missed just as much as the long absent Brodiepup has been. I know you two were a great double act when I first came here last Summer and you gave me a lot of moral support (as well as plenty of laughs along the way).
Look after yourself and your gorgeous Milo xxx

Bupster · 06/01/2025 18:46

CaptainBeanThief · 06/01/2025 18:34

This will be the last picture I post of Milo,
I've found recently, certain posters are bending over backwards to contradict every little thing I say - everything I say is wrong and they do it better and I'm quite fed up of it tbh. This thread has given me invaluable advice on Milo and it used to feel like a safe space however there is alot of passive agressive-ness going on.
Take care from me and Milo.

Sorry, @CaptainBeanThief , our posts must have crossed - I'd be super sad if you left and apologies for having completely missed this. Hope I wasn't any part of it.

lookwhatyoumademedoo · 06/01/2025 18:52

@CaptainBeanThief i'm sorry you feel this way. Thankyou for any advice you've given me, you and milo take care x

CoubousAndTourmalet · 06/01/2025 18:53

Brie is the same @Bupster she's never left for long but goes completely crackers when I get back; jumps up to put paws on my shoulders, gives me a nose boop then washes my ears. She's hysterically funny when I'm in pyjamas and fresh from the shower, I get a sort of wiggly dance and a bit of singing then. The really weird thing is that her predecessor, Algy used to do exactly the same "clean mummy" song and dance when I came down after a shower. I'm not sure what that tells me about my personal hygiene...🤔but it's very nice to feel loved and appreciated.

lookwhatyoumademedoo · 06/01/2025 19:01

thanks for the recommendations @Bupster and @tizwozliz. I'll get some ordered.
I've been in contact with a gun dog trainer and am going to book a 1-1 session to start with so they can see what max can/can't do but i'm feeling awfully anxious about it and i just know he's going to forget everything he knows and make it look like i've done no training whatsoever with him 

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