Dog bit Child

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When we went to visit family we met one family member's new dog.
They got him in the summer. So he's still a puppy, or teenage dog?
We all arrived together so there were 6 of us along with 3 the dog already knew there.
Dog was barking which is fine. I know dogs bark around new people. But dog also growling.
But they're saying he's fine he won't hurt.

So dog wasn't happy and wouldn't settle. Dog taken a bit away from people because not settling at all and with owner.
So in the next room.
My child (10) went into room, went past dog, across room to get something and the dog went up and bit her on the arm! Clearly because he was in this riled up state
And dog had to be pulled off her.

She wasn't 'hurt' but was upset and shocked as you would be. I've never been bit by a dog in all my dog encounters

They say he's never acted like this before and this is not like him at all

I thought this was dangerous? I am wary now.
How would you expect the owner to react?
Would this happen again?

I'm really sorry this happened. Yes, I would be wary of the dog now. You said the owner was upset and surprised, so I would expect them now to be super vigilant about putting the dog in a stressful situation and anticipate the reaction.

That might look like - not bringing the dog with them to a family gathering.

Putting the dog in a crate or a room with a closed door and a calming activity such as a chew, when children come to the home.

Definitely getting some serious training in around meeting and greeting - displacement activities, calm behaviours, settle etc.

You say the dog is a collie, who are known for their herding instincts, so that training would also be - don't herd children!

I think you have had a hard time here. You are right to be upset. This shouldn't have happened.

That’s because that’s how your post reads.🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

Same than just now when you say
The owner had put the puppy into another room which the child then entered
which implies the dd wasn’t supposed to go into the room rather than the owner not stopping her.

In a situation like this, it’s essential to put responsibilities where they belong and without any ambiguity. And that’s solely with the owner.

It implies nothing of the sort. Don't be absurd.

I have a 7 month old puppy, I know bloody well what the responsibilities of an owner are.

Thank you.

😁😁
I think youre taking things too personally here @PyreneanAubrie

If you're implying here that I'm the owner in question, you could not be more wrong. My pup is not a Border Collie, and nor would I ever allow her to be put in this sort of a situation.

Yep.
Thinking that I’m assuming you’re the OP and sock puppeting is an another good example of taking things personally.

I don’t care if you’re the OP or not.
I actually dint care if you have a pup, are a trainer or whatever else you think is important about you as a person.
I was talking about attitudes and behaviours in general in the context of the OP’s experiences.
Its not about you.

She is most certainly not the OP
@PyreneanAubrie has been around for a while, if you think shes not a genuine poster then report rather than make accusations
Most of us on here are responsible dog owners and know how to control and train our dogs.
Its a bit foolish for a child to go into a room where a young distressed dog has been put to calm down BUT OP's child was not aware of this and so shouldn't be blamed, neither should the dog

Dog has been removed to calm down it's obviously a risk to enter the room....and children should never be alone with the calmest of dogs

I had an incident with a friends dog that tried to bite my daughters face because it woke up and got startled ( not by my daughter who was calmly sitting on the floor. ). It missed but scratched her face with its claw( yorkshire terrier so small.dog thankfully,).
she also.trotted out the dog is harmless and has never done it before speil. In fact I have never met a dog owner yet who.can ever see their dog as anything other than harmless and no.risk to anyone at all. so it is up to.you to keep your children safe. I never took my children to.the friends house ever again and that's all you can do really. My daughter was v scared of dogs after that ( she was about 4 at the time of the incident). Hope your child is not similarly affected.

Fgs read the posts!
It’s @PyreneanAubrie that suggested I THINK she is the OP. Not me.

Im not making accusations about anyone.

Reading and comprehension skills seem to be missing atm.

Thank you @Hoppinggreen People who know me as a long term poster know that my wording is often muddled up and childlike because of my anxiety/autism.

What is sock puppeting please @MitochondriaUnited I don't understand the term.

I think I've got nothing else to say here now anyway.

I didn't say you did, but you are right about the lack of reading and comprehension skills

Not alone

This

This. 🤨

Dog was let down by its owners. Sounded like he was stressed out and gave plenty of warning signs which were ignored. He should not have been in a position where he could be in a room with a kid…..and I’m not blaming the OP for that.

as a border collie it’s possible he was “herding”. I used to live on a farm and we had a working collie that would sometimes herd people in the farmyard…..this generally consisted of slinking up behind them silently and giving them a real hard nip on the calf, enough to leave a bruise. Not my farm, not my dog before anyone has a go.

later on in life I had a small ferocious dog which would merrily bite anyone. When we had visitors dog was either shut away or in a short lead with me holding the lead at all times.

this dogs owners need to learn how to read dog signals and manage their dog.

Some dogs just aren’t very pleasant, just like any other species. My dad’s jack Russell is bloody vile and his blind loyalty, tinged with bizarre righteous embarrassment concerning the little git is infuriating.

Why when you knew the dog was growling did you allow your child to barge past him in the same room? You need to take some responsibility here

Hopefully OP will have learnt their lesson.

I'm not sure where you've got the message that she barged past him

I think 'barge' was used as a bit of an excited verb there.

Although you did say:
My child (10) went into room, went past dog, across room to get something and the dog went up and bit her on the arm!

So, tbf the point about your child going into a room where the dog had been put - away from her - still stands.

So, OP, what happened in the end (having just read the thread I am v. excited for an update given you have re-appeared).

This dog had already given a sign of impending aggression by growling (this is one of the run up signs). The next time this dog growls it will attack viciously. This dog is dangerous near anyone and needs to be put down humanely.

Or next time it growls, listen to it. A growl is the dog's method of communication.

But well done on resurrecting a nine month old thread just so you can tell someone to have a dog PTS. 👏

This is a zombie thread.

Lots of threads are been resurrected, must be some bored posters.