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Oh my giddy god......

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HangingOver · 30/09/2024 13:58

I can't actually believe I'm finally typing this... I think I'm getting a dog!

I've wanted one of my own my entire life. I had one growing up and look after friends and neighbours at every available opportunity as I adore dogs so much. A rescue came up locally and I thought he looked lovely, he was snapped up immediately, but came up again yesterday! Me and DP are meeting him this afternoon.

Any tips for meeting a rescue for the first time? Other than being gentle and calm? He's 8 months so a bouncy chap.

ARGGGH! So excited. 😁

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Pashazade · 15/10/2024 15:54

Buy a length of fence chain from Robert Dyas or B&Q as a lead replacement, he'll have a harder time chewing through that!

MaxandMoritz · 15/10/2024 16:36

He needs a chain lead. That'll stop him!

eggandonion · 15/10/2024 16:45

Mine ate two harnesses and could escape from a collar and lead.

GeminiGiggles · 15/10/2024 17:05

Haha what a bugger he is 🤣

I keep a slip lead for emergencies. Hate them as a general rule but great if there's been a houdini moment as you can lasso like a cowboy 🤠 it stays in a drawer though as it becomes fair game otherwise.

Agree with the others about a chain lead, not tasty at all!

veggie50 · 15/10/2024 17:12

Just a length of chain 12-18 inches long, not a choke chain, will do the trick.

HangingOver · 15/10/2024 17:13

Butter wouldn't melt

Oh my giddy god......
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MaxandMoritz · 15/10/2024 17:26

I didn't mean a choke chain. A chain lead with a normal clip to his harness or collar.

WiddlinDiddlin · 15/10/2024 18:57

The bitter apple stuff is a rather vague aversive, in that its aversive the whole time the dog can smell/taste it (so before they chew/bite something, and long after the fact) - aversives only work if they're very accurately timed with the unwanted behaviour (whether you're pro using them or not, thems the facts).

The behaviour is a symptom... of his overwhelm, boredom, high arousal, frustration - take your pick, he's probably got them all. So in the broader scheme of things, try to reduce those things.

On a practical level - mm, a chain lead, possibly with a slip cover over it if theres any risk of him getting a tooth caught in it..

If you're using a harness with two points of contact, you can use two leads - downside is it gives you more to juggle, but you then have the option of dropping one, which gives him nothing to tug back against.

I think I'd go with a chain lead, and with a tug toy to offer him when he feels like he's needing to bite/tug. (Probaby a long tug something furry on the end rather than the Puller rings for playing tug games at home).

I'd also consider upgrading harness if he doesn't have an escape proof harness (Haqihana, Rabbit Goo, there are others er.. Ruffwear do one) that has the second belly strap further back, stops them reversing out, which pointy shaped dogs can do so very much more easily than other shaped dogs.

HangingOver · 15/10/2024 20:58

He has a Ruffwear harness, it's fab. I was doing the two lead thing, that led to the second lead being eaten 🤣 I thought the little sod was happily carrying the second one in his mouth but after walking for about a minute then handle dropped to the floor.

I'm going to keep trying the normal lead (when the new one comes, with loads of gorilla tape) as he CAN be distracted eventually l, I just need more than the minute it takes him to chomp it, but I'm going to have a plastic coated wire one in my pocket for absolute emergencies as I can't safely get him home with no lead at all.

Really don't want him biting a chain. He's a total dumbass when he's over excited and I don't want to break his lovely teeth.

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HangingOver · 15/10/2024 21:15

Also I think I'm overtiring him which doesn't help with the chomping so I'm going to experiment with shorter walks tomorrow.

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mrsbojangles2 · 15/10/2024 21:23

HangingOver · 15/10/2024 15:41

Oh the little sod just chewed through the spare lead too.

📷 Attempting to stay awake and failing

Bless him, he looks like butter wouldn't melt. I also have a lead chewer and a work call barker. You can buy leads made of metal chain but with a comfy handle. Search for Dacitiery Metal Dog Leash, Chew Proof on Amazon. Haven't solved the barking on work calls. Here for the tips. In the meantime have just introduced dog on call and explained he's got issues! Good luck sorry to hear about your Nana.

mrsbojangles2 · 15/10/2024 21:25

Ps sorry just saw your earlier comment. Mine has never tried to bite the metal lead. Think he understands he would break his teeth!

eggandonion · 15/10/2024 21:31

We used a thick rope lead. I'm sure my childhood terrier had a lead with about 6 inches of chain on it.

Ellmau · 15/10/2024 22:25

He looks like Scooby Doo in the15.41 post.

WiddlinDiddlin · 16/10/2024 02:42

Yup, its VERY hard to find that ideal balance of mental vs physical, particularly for adolescents even without the rehoming thing.

Lots of short walks may well be better than few, longer ones - and maybe mix up just hanging out and sniffing around your path/door/street with slightly longer (but still short) walks so he has time to process.

Don't forget you can alter your plans at any minute - sometimes we can get stuck in 'I had planned to do X and if I don't do X then I've let him down/not been a good dog owner/he'll learn something untoward from that'...

He has no idea of the plan. If you feel altering it is best for you both, do it - a good dog owner meets their dogs needs wherever it is those needs 'are' that day. For some dogs that will be two long yomps around the countryside, and for some it will be 5 x 10 minute classical conditioning beh mod sessions by the front door and loads of sniffy chewy time.

HangingOver · 16/10/2024 09:57

Feel a bit like crying this morning. DangerPod's manic moods are really challenging. Because he's so destructive he's currently only allowed in the kitchen/diner/conservatory and garden. He used to have access to the hall too but he's now decided ripping up the stairs carpet is the best thing ever so I've had to shut the hall door to get some work done. So he barks continuously at the shut door because he wants to go destroy the carpet. He hates the broom so I tried opening the hall door and propping the broom against the bit he's eating so he won't go for it... no, he just barks at the broom instead.

Ditto the sofa cushions in the conservatory - they're fixed to the base so he thinks chewing and tugging on them is the most fun thing ever, all the while moaning like a dinosaur that's just got into a really comfortable bed.

He'll be redirected by treats but not by other chewy/tuggy toys so I'm getting up every 5 minutes to distract him with treats because he's SO determined to rip everything to pieces and that sofa is the only place I can relax at all while he's awake. He'll happily pay attention for some sit/paws etc but then launch straight back into destroyer mode afterwards. Hopefully he'll have a sleep soon.

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Kiyua · 16/10/2024 10:05

Kudos to you because I couldn't deal with all this :(

AskingQuestions45 · 16/10/2024 10:13

HangingOver · 16/10/2024 09:57

Feel a bit like crying this morning. DangerPod's manic moods are really challenging. Because he's so destructive he's currently only allowed in the kitchen/diner/conservatory and garden. He used to have access to the hall too but he's now decided ripping up the stairs carpet is the best thing ever so I've had to shut the hall door to get some work done. So he barks continuously at the shut door because he wants to go destroy the carpet. He hates the broom so I tried opening the hall door and propping the broom against the bit he's eating so he won't go for it... no, he just barks at the broom instead.

Ditto the sofa cushions in the conservatory - they're fixed to the base so he thinks chewing and tugging on them is the most fun thing ever, all the while moaning like a dinosaur that's just got into a really comfortable bed.

He'll be redirected by treats but not by other chewy/tuggy toys so I'm getting up every 5 minutes to distract him with treats because he's SO determined to rip everything to pieces and that sofa is the only place I can relax at all while he's awake. He'll happily pay attention for some sit/paws etc but then launch straight back into destroyer mode afterwards. Hopefully he'll have a sleep soon.

Oh my God, I don’t know how you cope. This is my worst nightmare. You sound so patient .

Newpeep · 16/10/2024 10:22

Have you given him things he is allowed to destroy? Cardboard boxes are great.

He does sound stressed and over stimulated and combined with his age and history that is a heady mix.

The three things that are calming are chewing, sniffing and licking so a combination of those for him are good. Also humping but that is less socially acceptable!

HangingOver · 16/10/2024 10:28

Yeah he's got loads. I think i need to rotate them as he gets bored of things he's 'allowed' really quickly. It's so hard not to react because that's what he responds to but it's equally hard watching him destroy your things. If he manages to break through to the filling of the sofa cushions it'll be total chaos.

I'm doing the handful or treats in the long grass and filled kongs multiple times a day. I have a lick mat but he tried to eat the whole mat haha

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WomenInConstruction · 16/10/2024 10:29

Is there a way to get up very early and take him for a long walk before your day begins, just to take the edge of his cooked like a spring energy...
Whilst years to distract are helpful temporarily you don't want him to be associating wrecking the furniture with being rewarded... Could this behaviour be preempted and his energy channeled somewhat?

HangingOver · 16/10/2024 10:31

WomenInConstruction · 16/10/2024 10:29

Is there a way to get up very early and take him for a long walk before your day begins, just to take the edge of his cooked like a spring energy...
Whilst years to distract are helpful temporarily you don't want him to be associating wrecking the furniture with being rewarded... Could this behaviour be preempted and his energy channeled somewhat?

It doesn't seem to work like that with him... I quickly learnt that long walks = devil dog. He just comes back totally overstimulated and it takes him ages to calm down. As it is we're going out at 6.30 then he will at least have a sleep at 10 so i can get some work done.

I'm having a weekly session with the trainer on Zoom on top of the course so i can ask him all the questions i build up during the week.

He's basically just really unsettled on top of being a stroppy teen (DDog, not the trainer).

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HangingOver · 16/10/2024 10:54

PUPDATE: Ordered a dog gate from Argos and sent DP to collect. If it goes at the foot of the stairs it'll keep him off the carpet and stop him if he ever does decide to go upstairs, although he shows little sign of wanting to go up at present (also, the idea of purging the upstairs of house of clothes, soft furnishings too hideous to contemplate. We'd be sleeping on a bare floor with not curtains). If this is one small issue I can solve by throwing money at it then I'm going to lol

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eggandonion · 16/10/2024 10:58

He is very lucky he has found you.
Is he neutered or is he too young?

HangingOver · 16/10/2024 11:00

WiddlinDiddlin · 16/10/2024 02:42

Yup, its VERY hard to find that ideal balance of mental vs physical, particularly for adolescents even without the rehoming thing.

Lots of short walks may well be better than few, longer ones - and maybe mix up just hanging out and sniffing around your path/door/street with slightly longer (but still short) walks so he has time to process.

Don't forget you can alter your plans at any minute - sometimes we can get stuck in 'I had planned to do X and if I don't do X then I've let him down/not been a good dog owner/he'll learn something untoward from that'...

He has no idea of the plan. If you feel altering it is best for you both, do it - a good dog owner meets their dogs needs wherever it is those needs 'are' that day. For some dogs that will be two long yomps around the countryside, and for some it will be 5 x 10 minute classical conditioning beh mod sessions by the front door and loads of sniffy chewy time.

The part about changing plans is such good advice. Yesterday we sacked off the evening walk completely and I just shuffled him round the garden on his lead before bed to get a wee out of him. He was so overtired. You can tell he wants to stay awake because he's so anxious but sometimes his eyes are closing while he's still standing up god bless him.

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