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Puppy Survival Thread for New & Old Pups - Soon be Autumn 2024

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BrodiePup · 18/08/2024 12:18

Setting the ball rolling on a new thread as the last one has reached 1k 😊.

Brodie had his first proper bath today...
I don't think he was overly impressed!

He'll be 6 months old on Tuesday. I can't believe how the time has passed, or how far along we've come.

To everyone who is struggling at the moment, stick with it, it really does get easier.

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IrishCoffeeEvening · 28/08/2024 22:11

And it sounds to me like your pup was born into an idylic life. I'd have got a pup in those circumstances too. It sounds like breeder truly loved them and wanted best for them and you can't beat that for best start in life. I broke some rules in where I got my pup from (e.g. he was raised in an outhouse from 4 weeks old). I chose him mainly out of desperation. I needed a pup immediately to 'save me'. Ha! The reality was somewhat different from what I expected and it was a difficult adjustmemt period to say the least.
Hope you get the time you need to relax and that you feel better soon! x

BrodiePup · 29/08/2024 08:07

@IrishCoffeeEvening What a lovely poem, I've bookmarked it for future reference. I've also reread your previous post, you've certainly been through it with your pup, and hopefully are coming out of the other side. You give me hope!
What is your puppy? Poor lad sounds like he didn't have the best start in life and has been lucky to find you.
Spoilt brat Brodie was from a one off litter. His mum belongs to a retired vet and had a phantom pregnancy, they decided to let her have a litter before she was spayed.

I'm setting off on my first walk of the day shortly, it's a pleasant morning and I'm hoping that we have a nice time 🤞🏻.

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CaptainBeanThief · 29/08/2024 08:26

Milos just been for his first walk of the day.
For the past few days he's been yanking me here there and everywhere.
No walks until further notice until I can palm him off on my husband

brushingboots · 29/08/2024 09:42

We’ve never bothered with a groomer @YorkshireFelix, just do the grinch toes and a bit around her bum ourselves but we do like a slightly longer coat, and comb ears every day/after every walk without fail to prevent matting. She’s 15 months now and only had her claws clipped last week for the first time since we got her, at the vets as she’s black and it’s a bit harder – plus we pay for nail clips with our monthly plan anyway. The nurse said she didn’t really need them doing.

Re toilet training, I don’t think she was reliably dry in the house every time without fail or worry until 4/5 months. We didn’t crate train so that may have had an impact but the dry in three days thing is barmy and really unrealistic! He’s just a baby still – he’ll get it and then you’ll wonder why you worried!

Sorry to hear you’re having a hard time @BrodiePup, it does get better! I spent the first six months trying to give ours away to anyone that I saw so I really do sympathise but she has more than made up for it now. Please don’t admit defeat! And for what it’s worth we got our girlie at 12 weeks, the day after her second vax and it didn’t affect socialisation at all. @IrishCoffeeEvening is right that he might be overstimulated. For all the (enormous amount) of steadiness training I’ve done, if she is over threshold on a walk and it’s all too much there’s just no point in trying to do anything useful, so we just try and have a nice time with what we can do/go home as appropriate.

Having not met him I’m just spitballing here but if what he wants is to sniff, have you taught him to sniff, as it were? Can you play some games with him – cut up some pate or other treats into cubes and (on a long line perhaps easiest?) throw them into the grass on the field/in the garden and ask him to find them? Then he’s getting his fix of sniffing but it’s on your terms, so you get some control, and he gets a win because there are snacks involved. I ask to ‘find find find’ or ‘hunt’ if it’s long grass. We do loads of this though it’s for a different purpose as I’m actively asking her to put her nose down and hunt, but she seems to find it calming too, as sniffing chills them out.

My gundog trainer taught me a great game for engagement and sniffs and recall all in one. Stand with him at your feet in a sit opposite you and throw out pate/treats left and then right – first left and ask him to find and then when he comes back to the centre (ie you) throw the other way, so he’s going side to side. The idea is that the fun comes from you so he should always return to you, and that way you control the fun! You can increase the difficulty by throwing it further but you can start just by throwing it just beyond your feet.

Would love to be able to help more because I really want you to succeed and get the dog you dreamed of, but without seeing him (and I’m not a trainer, just self-taught) it’s hard!

BrodiePup · 29/08/2024 10:53

Hi @brushingboots thanks for your message. It's always nice to know that other people have struggled and come out the other side.
You're right about when he's overstimulated, I think I need to learn to give up trying to get any sense out of him when he's like that, rather than stressing us both out.
Our gun dog trainer taught us something similar for scent work and occasionally I can get him to engage with it when he's going loopy, other times he's great and loves it. I haven't done it the way you describe though, I like that idea and will definitely give it a go. Thanks for your advice and support 😊

Reading your message to @YorkshireFelix about grooming, how hairy is your pup? I was hoping to keep Brodie longer and have been trimming his paws myself, but his legs are wild! The photo is him still damp from a bath.

@CaptainBeanThief I think the boys are messaging each other and Brodie has told Milo how much fun pulling is 🤣

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YorkshireFelix · 29/08/2024 11:05

@BrodiePup Vinny isn't very hairy at all really! Brodie looks like he has 10x more fluff than him!! He's so cute, you'd never know he was such a little bugger for you!

Twiglets1 · 29/08/2024 11:08

Brodie is very handsome @BrodiePup

My pup gets obnoxious when overtired too, even more so when hungry.

When he is Hangry (hungry and angry) he's the worst puppy in the world but when he's dozing on his back paws up after a big meal he's the best.

CaptainBeanThief · 29/08/2024 11:49

Brodie: " yo Milo did you manage to pull like a train this morning "
Milo: " of course brother, shall we just be utter dickheads all day"
Brodie: " yes, for no reason whatsoever"
🫢

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brushingboots · 29/08/2024 12:57

@BrodiePup you’re very welcome! They’re such wonderful dogs and I hate to see anyone having a hard time. I am all about the idea of always letting her succeed if I can, and if it looks like she won’t then I just sack off the activity and try again another day.

Gosh, he is hairy! She isn’t, admittedly, anything like as hairy as that. Her hair is very fine and silky but she does get very long feathers. The grinch toes are the main thing – I prefer her longer, though I accept that her hair looks like a very different texture to B-dog’s! Here she is – we were just out so I got her to pose.

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YorkshireFelix · 29/08/2024 13:02

@brushingboots aww she's so cute! Like a bigger version of Vinny.

We have second vax booked for Monday so I am counting down the days until we can finally go out and about. I don't know if the vet will say 2 weeks to wait or longer? They said 3-4 weeks between first and second vax but don't know if it will be the same again.

The slip lead and whistle I ordered arrive tomorrow so going to knuckle down and try and do some training. I was trying to teach him to lie down but he's just crackers and jumps up going crazy if he doesn't get the treat after sitting and giving his paw Envy That is obviously his limit right now haha!

brushingboots · 29/08/2024 13:24

@YorkshireFelix I've just looked through my photos and we went for our first tiny walk a week after she'd had her second vax, and she had seen our vet by then so I'd have asked what was best and had it OK'd. She was off the lead on her second walk so I would have checked it was all fine with the vet.

I hope for your sake you don't have to wait another two weeks! We carried her for the first week when we went into town/the garden centre/the country shop etc so she met loads of stuff and people before she went anywhere on her own little legs. I think that helped loads and it exhausted her. We sat around in the car a lot too with her in the open boot just watching and she still loves doing that now – it's useful for 'sitting doing nothing' practice.

We never mastered 'down'! In fact she seems to have only just learned how to actually lie on her tummy, so I'm vaguely attempting to teach it now. But I never bothered to teach her any tricks, if I'm honest, just the core commands for safety: leave, wait, stop etc. It's amazing, eventually, to see the effort you put in pay off – the other day she found a lovely fresh rabbit that she picked up to bring to me, but I shouted leave and she just left it.

You will have lots of fun with your whistle! I bet he'll be super keen and you can practise loads without it even seeming like a training session – just popping the whistle in when you call him, or when you ask him to sit. I'm excited for you!

YorkshireFelix · 29/08/2024 14:01

@brushingboots I would be thrilled if it's only a week! We have a sling for him to sit in because I'm a weakling and he's so heavy. But he just uses it as leverage to stand up really stiff like a meerkat and try and escape. We've been a few different places but he won't stay in it happily for very long. I can tell he's desperate to be on the ground...

tizwozliz · 29/08/2024 14:14

The information vets seem to give about time to wait after vaccinations seems to vary massively. Our vet said fine to go out the day after but avoid water, very busy places and around bins (due to rats) for a couple of weeks.

BrodiePup · 29/08/2024 14:28

@brushingboots She is gorgeous! What a lovely gentle face. I must admit that was more the coat that I wanted/expected, I really don't know what has happened with Brodie. I think a he looks a bit of a mutt...I'm not saying that as an insult to him, as I wanted a mutt 🤣 he definitely looks a character.

@YorkshireFelix we were told 2 weeks after 2nd vaccination, but took him out after about 10 days.

@CaptainBeanThief yup...you're probably right there!

Photo is of the mutt the day we picked him up at 11.5 weeks...much less hairy!

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brushingboots · 29/08/2024 14:37

I know I'm biased but she is beautiful! A gratuitous portrait here from the other day. She is super silky but I do think the combination of raw feeding and various coat and working dog supplements has helped that – she had beautiful fur before but if possible it's even softer now. It's definitely luck of the draw though and I do worry that now she's been spayed her coat might go bad.

He's lovely, @BrodiePup – just a wooly one rather than a slippery seal!

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Pyreneansylvie · 29/08/2024 14:41

Oh... all your gorgeous puppy photos here today. A real feast for the eyes. Loving tiny baby Brodie ❤

My cousin who is a vet told us one week after final vaccs but be a bit careful not to go into areas with a lot of dogs at first.

CaptainBeanThief · 29/08/2024 15:20

Baby milo -- big Milo 😂😂

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YorkshireFelix · 29/08/2024 15:26

How old is she? @brushingboots

brushingboots · 29/08/2024 15:40

@YorkshireFelix 15 months!

BrodiePup · 29/08/2024 15:47

@CaptainBeanThief little innocent Milo!

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BrodiePup · 29/08/2024 18:24

@brushingboots I tried what you suggested this afternoon with some success. A few times I got him to sit and stay as I threw a treat, told him to go find, which he did...then he was instantly off on his own sniffs until I could get him back and start again. Not a bad first try though! Thanks for the suggestion.

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brushingboots · 29/08/2024 18:58

@BrodiePup Hooray, that's a good start, well done! If you've got a long-line you could try it on that too, then he's got to return to you and then you get a recall game too.

Was thinking earlier and another small but useful thing my gundog trainer suggested was teaching 'look', as a way of building engagement with me. Can do it sitting down or in the house to start with but it's just asking for eye contact with whatever word you choose and rewarding when it happens. Then he gets that fun things come when he engages with you. Sounds boring but I guess it's the step before the game I suggested. I still reward eye contact and check ins now every single time when she's offlead so that she knows that I know she's made the effort. Maybe I'm kidding myself but I swear it has helped us!

CaptainBeanThief · 29/08/2024 19:32

Milo loves a good game of "go find"
He can distinguish what his ball is so if I say "go find your ball" he will get his ball rather than any of his other toys or if I say "go find mister fox" he will go and bring me his fox.
He loves sniffing out his treats/food so I/we often hide lots of tasty treats around the house and set him off on a mission of go find

BrodiePup · 29/08/2024 21:06

We use the look cue when he checks in, there again he's good in the house, but pretty appalling out of it. My husband definitely does better than me, I might get a furtive side eye if I'm lucky, but I praise even that.

Brodie knows all his toys by name too. It's really cute when you ask him to fetch one and he brings it back.

He really is a good pup apart from the pulling. No morning walks for the next 3 days yay! I might tag along but at least I won't be on the other end of the lead.

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Tinkpod · 29/08/2024 23:43

Hi all, I hope I'm in the right place for some advice on this... I'm struggling with our puppy. She is a gorgeous golden retriever, my daughter absolutely loves her as does my partner, but I dislike her. I've had dogs most of my life, I had my German shepherd until January when he died at 14 years of age, I loved him straight away from the day I brought him home, he was a strong willed high drive dog and could be a right idiot but was overall a fantastic boy, I miss him beyond words. We got this pup as my daughter is nearly 3 and loves dogs, my partners previous dog who he adored was a golden retriever and we both agreed that a golden would have the right nature to be a family dog for my daughter to grow up with. She is extremely good natured and absolutely great with my daughter but everything she does just pisses me off, i dislike her sneakiness, the digging, the chewing, the thieving, the dumbness! I did obedience with my German shepherd to quite a high standard but trying to work with this dog is just frustrating and annoying. I can't get rid of her so I know I'm going to have to find a way to live with her but I just don't know how. Does anyone have any similar stories with a good outcome or some advice?

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