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Help me with the pain and decision of rehoming

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fizzingbubbleseffervescence · 03/09/2022 09:07

I absolutely adore our dog. She's very loving in the house to me and the kids, she has excellent obedience and training in terms of sitting, waiting, recall and toileting. But she keeps biting me when out on walks. We've taken her to puppy classes (she's 14 months old), we've worked with two one-one trainers, she's had a check up at the vet, we've had two behaviourists give their advice and she even spent time with a trainer in his home for a week. We've spent thousands of pounds and tried just about every method advised. But nothing seems to crack this problem. The biting can be at any time at all during the walk, whether she's run her legs off or is near the beginning. It can be off lead or on lead. Some walks are perfect and it doesn't happen. But when it does its like she's gone mad, she gets into a jumping biting frenzy and she's a big 40kg dog and I really struggle to stop her doing it. She's growling and tugging the lead as she does this and it's very frightening. But when we get home she's lovely again and it's like nothing happened. My arms and legs are covered in bruises (but strangely never blood?). I feel like I could put up with this if it was just me (it's only ever been just me she's done it to) but I'm so frightened it could happen to the kids or someone outside our family. All the professionals she's worked with say how lovely she is and how she's unlikely to do it to anyone else, they say she's being a teenager and taking her angst out on me. But can I take that risk? It's been happening for a year now and I'm becoming a nervous wreck.

We found a breed specific rescue centre who've said they can take her in, train her and give her to a more experienced dog owner. But the kids are absolutely devastated and I'm the villain as she's only attacking me.

Please talk to me about what to do and how to deal with the guilt and pain. The idea of handing her over and the kids sobbing destroys me.

OP posts:
Onceuponawhileago · 07/09/2022 20:06

forumsempronii · 05/09/2022 17:02

If you see my previous posts you will see the methods used to prevent the control or fight issues .........

headcollar only used to prevent physical harm to the owner.

I went through this with my trainer in detail and she absolutely rules out headcollar use. The dog needs to be taught to re direct. Control via headcollar drives frustration.

Onceuponawhileago · 07/09/2022 20:07

Meant to say its interesting that its a schnauzer, more and more used in police work.

Ivedonethisthreetimesalready · 08/09/2022 08:50

Onceuponawhileago · 07/09/2022 20:06

I went through this with my trainer in detail and she absolutely rules out headcollar use. The dog needs to be taught to re direct. Control via headcollar drives frustration.

A head collar is a last resort but used in conjunction with a harness will not increase the frustration by the dog. 99.9% if the control will come from the harness but to stop physical pain from the owner the head collar can be used correctly.

If the owner is going to rehome or use a head collar to help with training then it is an option to consider.

At this stage the owner is unable to redirect due to high arousal levels hence the vicious circle that they are in. Dogs bites she gets tense dog gets tense arousal levels are higher.

Calm treat delivery before the biting starts dog can be directed to the treats and then walk on - no high arousal has begun and not jumping up has happended. Owner relaxes dog is looking down for treats and being controlled by the harness. Only if the dog jumps to bite owner is the head collar used to direct to the floor and prevent arousal levels spiralling.

I agree that text book dog training would not use head collars however in some extreme cases they are invaluable as a starting point to bring down arousal.

The head collar must not be one that tightens or chokes the dog eg figure of eight or gencon etc.

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