Pugs not “classed as dogs” anymore

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Stupid headline, and stupid phrase but the idea is good.

Experts are saying that pugs should no longer be bred from and sold unless their noses are sorted to be longer than what is currently being sold.

Frankly all short nosed breeds should have the same thing. They are now so badly bred that some suffer hydrocephalus and nearly all of them struggle to breathe, especially in the summer.

The breed standard from 50 years ago, is vastly different from the standard today. It’s a shock to see really.

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It is a terribly sad 'coincidence' that the dogs with the best temperaments for the average pet home today, are the breeds we've mutated almost beyond recognition - and that those personalities are housed in bodies that are fundementally non-functional.

Extreme breeding of dogs (and cats, and rabbits and horses) are living proof that humans cannot be trusted with anything good, that we push everything to dangerous extremes and that we will ignore the evidence right in front of our noses, in preference to a dellusion that everything is alright.

Woah!! Is that a real horse?

Not just a cartoon horse?

That can’t be healthy

Couldn't agree more it's a miserable existence for many no nose dogs.

It is - it's an Arabian and the breeders got a whole load of flack for producing a horse with such an obvious deformity.

Hi Elena sorry, my earlier post came across like I was challenging you ... not what I intended more aghast this should have to happen.

But yes - the poor things.

Another horror here -

wikipedia.org/wiki/Munchkin_cat

About bloody time! I can think of a few other breeds to add to that - dogs and cats!

Munchkin cats are barbaric yes.

Its not natural. They want to run and climb..and they can’t.

Though I think they were originally bred so Americans wouldn’t declaw cats because munchkins couldn’t claw things

OMG wtf is that? That is appalling, I really hate humans. As for the French Bulldog Caesarean, yes it’s common. There’s a ‘breeder’ near me who not only breeds them as byb’s but also breeds them as Merle. They need to be criminalised frankly.

Pixie cats are another.

They aren’t naturally occurring like Manx cats. They are bred to have no tails like the Manx but they are also bred to resemble bobcats

I read this recently about a woman in the Netherlands who is actively trying to breed French bulldogs with healthier face structures.

https://www.boredpanda.com/french-bulldog-breeder-reingeener-dog-face/?utmsource=google&utmmmedium=organic&utmcampaign=organic

The sooner KC "standards" focus on health and well-being rather than arbitrary physical standards that aren't healthy the better!

Real - and not the only example I could find. Someone's out there paying millions for horses like these - encouraging more extreme breeding to take place

I don’t think we should ban specific breeds or stop all breeding. But the KC does nothing to stop dogs being overbred or deformities in certain breeds. GSD backs and bulldog legs and faces etc. We need a scheme that restricts breeding. Checks on breeders. Makes sure owners know what they are taking on and are prepared for the responsibility.
But it’s all about money and people wanting cute puppies so it won’t happen.

The KC aren't responsible for creating breed standards, the breed clubs are. The KC already state (re judging) "All judges at this show agree to abide by the following statement: “In assessing dogs, judges must penalise any features or exaggerations which they consider would be detrimental to the soundness, health and well-being of the dog”. I would argue that this isn't always happening however and it needs to be, there's no question.

The KC “owns” the breed standards.

A massive part of the problem is that dog breeding in the UK is in no way regulated. Licensing doesn't really mean much in terms of dog health and in a lot of areas, the most ethical breeders would never need a licence anyway, as they rarely breed.

A HUGE proportion of KC registrations are from pet breeders, puppy farmers and volume breeders, health testing is in no way mandatory in order to KC register (which is a disgrace, frankly) and these people don't usually care about breeding to any kind of type or health testing, unless they think it will fetch more momey for their puppies. Sadly, the buying public think it is their right to own a dog and they want one right now, not to wait for one and they will continue to buy from unethical breeders for that reason, or because they aren't really a suitable home and so have no other option.

I've a (rescue) Pug who's tall and slim with long legs - no breathing difficulties but I think that's just luck

He defo has a squashy face

My rescue pug was a heavy breather and suffered. Sweetest nature and totally crazy but she died young because of her breathing problems. I would never have been without her but she was a mess. We have her a great home though

They aren’t naturally occurring like Manx cats

manx cats should be allowed to die out as well. Yes the mutation is naturally occurring but without careful breeding to maintain the breed it wouldn’t exist.

a kitten with 2 copies of the max gene dies. You can’t breed 2 tailless manx as 1/4 of the kittens will die. So you have to breed carriers, and even then only 1/2 will have the desirable short tail.

google “manx syndrome” as well. Horrific.

australia restrict the breeding of manx cats due to welfare reasons.

Another vile thing is what they have find yo German Shepherds in creating a sloping back

www.hepper.com/straight-vs-sloped-back-german-shepherd/

horseyhooves.com/el-rey-magnum-arabian-horse-breeding/

people who buy purposefully bred deformed dogs are not dog lovers. Pugs & frenchies have wonderfully personalities but have entirely ruined bodies. I feel the same about dachshunds - I’ve read on here they aren’t supposed to be allowed to climb stairs… imagine purposing breeding for such a long back and short legs they thy can’t fully function.

Omg yes! Those sloped backs are so ugly and the hind legs look so bent. I don't understand why anyone wants that in a show dog

Totally agree. My eldest dc had massive tonsils which meant he couldn't breathe out of his nose and even through the mouth there was an audible rattle.

They were taken out when he was two but I am always reminded of how awful it was watching him struggling to breathe at night when I see poor little flat faced pugs.

I actually own three pugs (one is a rescue) and all three have longer legs and decent noses. I couldn't own an animal and watch it suffer.

I actually regret not breeding from one of my pugs because he is such a perfect example of how a pug should be and there are so few left.

Another shit fact about pugs is that apparently all those who do Crufts are actually overweight. Yet another ruinous 'fashion' for these dogs who are the greatest companions a human will ever know.