Yorkie mix with bichon, any experience?

[Inanutshelldaze]

A lady we know very well will have yorkie/bichon pups available in the next couple of months. She lives near us & treats her dogs & pups like little babies. Has anyone any experience of this cross? My dc are dying for a puppy. The father is a dark black & tan purebred yorkie & the mother a white bichon.
Another lady in our town has cavachons due soon, need to make a decision!

What do you mean youve missed out twice? Exactly how many times has she bred from this dog?

Sounds like the mix from Hell frankly.

Rather than arguing about the right and wrong of cross breeds, to answer your question, I don't k or, however bear in .Ind that Yorkies are not the best breed around young kids. Many Yorkies not like them at all and have to be rehomed because of it.

A cross could inherit that personality trait.

Omg
Firstly I come from a family of very enthusiastic and successful pedigree dog breeders so am very familiar with the pros/cons.
I'm looking for a family dog. I am unlikely to be suitable for a rescue because of the age of my children. I don't want a non-housetrained, older Romanian or similar crossbreed because of behavioural issues.
But despite coming from a pedigree breeding family I don't want a pedigree dog. They are very inbred. I don't want to support the reduction in genetic diversity. The only way round that is to allow crossbreeding but the kennel club won't. I want a mixed breed so I will probably buy from a so called "back yard breeder" because its my only option.

^^thats an interesting video

My dog is a terrible designer cross breed from a "backyard breeder".
Both parents were health tested and hip scored. I have a 5 gen pedigree for each too. Sire was chosen for health and temperament.
Dog was brought up with his two sibs in a family home. He was mum's second litter; she was 6 at the time. He came to us well socialised and used to children, the hoover, cats etc.
He is a great dog and we love him.

We didn't want a bull breed which more or less exclusively populate local shelters. We didn't want a puppy farmed dog. We did want a low shedding coat.

Mumsnet dog people are much more judgemental than the families in the local park, judging by the number of cockatoos and labradoodles we see on our walks.

*cockapoos

I have experience of a Bichon. I love her but I absolutely wouldn't have one.
She can't stand other dogs and will bark and nip.
She's ok with her people but has gone for strangers who approach her because she's small and cute. She has separation anxiety and barks constantly when her owner is out.
Nightmare in the car and has to be on the lead all the time.

I know that's one dog but I have heard similar from other people.

I know people with Yorkies who love them but they seem very yappy to me.

On a side note, people who baby their little dogs are doing them no favours at all and clearly don't know a lot about dog training which would worry me in a breeder.

So what would we rather?
Dogs produced in puppy farms in filth and squalor out of ill-treated dams who never see the light of day
OR
Dogs born in family homes where they are loved and socialised and the parent dogs are much-loved pets
OR
Dogs produced by breeding only 'the best to the best' of a certain breed, which eventually guarantees a narrowing of the gene pool?

Home/ hobby breeders vary massively, from ones who slap any two dogs together and have zero knowledge of health testing or what to do if their bitch's labour stalls, to ones who give it a lot of thought, consider inbreeding co-efficients, will ensure the stud at least is tested for any recessive condition in the breed (or that crops up in both breeds if a cross), and who grill prospective owners and keep in touch with the puppies they sell.

From what the OP had said, this breeder is not necessarily at the bad end of the continuum.

Cross-breeding is not some terrible sin. Breeding dogs to be family pets is not some terrible sin: it's what most dogs are these days. Making some money off breeding a litter is not some terrible sin; litters are bloody hard work and a lot of responsibility (though breeding dogs as your sole income will guarantee that you don't look after them properly, because you will own too many to give them enough individual attention).

Never mind. OP has now posted a thread asking for “furbaby” names.
More money in the pockets of backyard breeders after the £££.

Wolfiefan, I'm here thanks. Yes I would like to name our little dog. Is that an issue? We don't intend on calling it pup 🤣🤣
We are delighted with our choice & with our breeder. This little puppy will be a most welcome addition to our family. I always grew up surrounded by mongrels & I'm thrilled to carry on the tradition 😘😘 no pedigree dogs for us wolfie🐶

How much is she charging?

300 x

No need to buy a pedigree. Just not a dodgy mix from someone exploiting their pets for cash.

from someone exploiting their pets for cash
All breeders then..

No @Borderstotheleftofme some want to improve a breed, want a puppy to keep, want dogs to work. Not purely to sell.

No @Borderstotheleftofme some want to improve a breed, want a puppy to keep, want dogs to work. Not purely to sell
And this is done for free is it..?
Whichever way you look at it dogs are being bred for the benefit of humans, whether it’s for financial gain or work or whatever, it’s being done because it is what the people want.
Yes the dogs in question (if a good breeder) may be deeply loved, well cared for, yes they may be actively trying to fix a problem, yes they may be very particular about where the puppies go etc but ultimately they are exploiting the dogs for their own gain.

So nobody should ever have a litter. Ok then.

So nobody should ever have a litter. Ok then
I never said that.
I have no problem with breeding dogs as long as it is done ethically, as in the dogs are well cared for, healthy, free of extremes, bred to be able to work if a working breed and care is taken to place the pups in suitable home.

But it is silly to try and suggest that breeding dogs is ever truly for the benefit of the dogs.
It is done because humans want it done.
Because we want a new working dog or because we want a new show winner or because we see something we think is a fault and want to fix it.

Well no wonder she has people travelling across country for one of her puppies. Where I am the going rate for a Cavapoo which is just another fashionable mix is £3000!

You aren't buying a mongrel, you're buying a crossbreed. There's no hybrid vigour with 2 crossbreed pedigrees - I mean it's probably a myth anyway but the only way you'd get it is to find a heinz 57 dog. You can think you're carrying on some sort of tradition and be smug about not having a pedigree but really you're just jumping on the bandwagon.

Most breeders will be making money from their animals whether they are pedigree or otherwise.
Humans use dogs for their own benefit and cross breeds to suit the current demand.
I don’t think it was necessary to post about the OP asking for names, Wolfiefan. That’s not kind.
I don’t know about crossing these two breeds, OP. My friend’s mum has a bichon. He is lovely but very clingy. Both owners are retired and treat him like a baby. Depends on what suits your lifestyle. Obviously being a cross is could be more yorkie or more bichon. I’d just make sure you are happy with the typical characteristics of either breed.

Wolfie can you please pm me the list of ethical pedigree breeders who breed puppies for zero profit? I could get a free pedigree puppy to keep my expensive "back yard cross bred" cutie company!
Do share your info, you seem to have lots of inside knowledge into dog breeders. Would love to contact a few of these that make zero profit from their pedigrees🤔🤔

Thanks heatseeker, I am a sahm & both my dc are in school. DH works away alot (although not as much now due to covid) so the puppy will be great company for me too. I'm nearly as excited as dc. We realise it's going to really limit our freedom & everything will revolve around the puppy now... However the advantages definitely weigh out the negatives!

@Inanutshelldaze

Wolfie can you please pm me the list of ethical pedigree breeders who breed puppies for zero profit? I could get a free pedigree puppy to keep my expensive "back yard cross bred" cutie company! Do share your info, you seem to have lots of inside knowledge into dog breeders. Would love to contact a few of these that make zero profit from their pedigrees🤔🤔

It’s fairly common for a litter to make no profit at all - not because the puppies are free...

But if it’s a breed with multiple health tests available then that adds up pretty quickly and because it’s hugely unlikely to own a dog and a bitch that actually complement each other, there’s stud fees to add on, plus the actual cost of raising a litter properly.