Are you the sort of dog owner who takes your dog everywhere?

[RedRed9]

I am. 😂

Partly because my work/life mean that I can and partly because he gets anxious when left alone.

For example: if you were going for lunch and the place you were going to was dog friendly; would you be most likely to take your dog or most likely to leave them at home? Is this due to them (their size/behaviour) or due to your personal preference?

No, they don’t really share my taste in films or the theatre.

@MaddeningtheUnhelpful what do you do if you were to have, for example, just a cup of coffee and a biscuit? Does your dog still have to leave the room or can it eg lay in its bed or at your feet?

Of if you were to take your dog to the beach as you said, and on a whim decide to get eg an ice cream while you’re out?

Not goading (hopefully doesn’t come across like I am but just in case) - genuinely curious.

No, they don’t really share my taste in films or the theatre. 😂

Nope dog comes to the beach/woods etc with us but definatly not out for food etc. Trained my doggo to be in a seperate room as eating humans until called back in so having her with us would massively blur the lines of her training.

I really don't understand this.

So if you go out for a lovely long walk and decide to stop off at the pub or a cafe while you're out, what do you do with the dog? Because in summer it would be dangerous to leave her in the car, so do you all go home first? Or just never go out anywhere on a dog walk?

I don't really mean it as a criticism, I just don't understand it, I suppose. I love going out with my dog and in the summer, nothing beats a lovely walk and then a relaxing few hours in a beer garden with DH and the dog. It would be so miserable to have to leave him home, or to have to kick him out of the room while we ate.

@adaline

Or are you saying that disabled people shouldn't be allowed out in public places with their guide dogs in case someone has an allergy?

That's not what I said. Vivid imagination you have. However, as someone else has pointed out exceptions can be made and are made if others are at risk. That's as it should be, surely?

My current foster is having a bit of an issue being left and as he’s only been here just over a week I’m humouring him by taking him places I wouldn’t normally take a dog (including work) but he’s very small and other the not wanting to be left alone he’s really well behaved...

But in general, no, I don’t take dogs everywhere - I don’t take them places that aren’t for their benefit usually. I suspect size and breed has a lot to do with where you tend to go tbh.

The small fluffy foster dog has very much been recurved with, oh how cute!!! My last actual dog was a Rottweiler, I once had someone ask if I could move him from his perfectly nice sit (on lead I’ll add) because they felt 4 feet of pavement wasn’t enough to walk past him...

“So if you go out for a lovely long walk and decide to stop off at the pub or a cafe while you're out, what do you do with the dog?”

That’s just never happened, if I’ve taken a dog somewhere for a longer than usual walk it tends to be somewhere without cafes or pubs...

That's not what I said. Vivid imagination you have. However, as someone else has pointed out exceptions can be made and are made if others are at risk. That's as it should be, surely?

Of course, but where you find the balance? As in, how do you decide who takes priority - the blind person who cannot get around without the help of their guide dog, or the person with allergies?

That’s just never happened, if I’ve taken a dog somewhere for a longer than usual walk it tends to be somewhere without cafes or pubs...

I suppose it depends where you live too. Where I am, everywhere is super dog-friendly so it's natural for us to plan a long walk that has a stop-off point in a lovely pub - either in the middle or at the end. Kind of killing two birds with one stone, really.

If I’ve walked to the cafe I’d take them, but I don’t see the point of taking them in the car to a cafe. (I would actually choose a dog friendly cafe to finish a walk at). One of mine was a street dog and she tries to charm people for scraps (she’s very small and cute, and she sits on her haunches and waves at people while doing a quiet singing thing!). People love her, but she has to be tucked in a corner away from people and behind my other dog when we go in a cafe to stop her doing it.

As in, how do you decide who takes priority - the blind person who cannot get around without the help of their guide dog, or the person with allergies?

The people with allergies could die. So they get priority, obviously. Not likely to occur very often but that's how it has to be. I doubt a partially sighted person would rather see someone die and demand their rights.

DS1 has twice had anaphylactic shock from dogs hair (the dander). He has an epipen but would rather not take the risk, if possible. Idon't think it's asking too much for people with chronic asthma to be considered.

Redred9 She just sort of goes away and pretends we're not eating. Really weird. We're from a seaside town so regularly get chips on the front and honestly she just lays down away from us as much as her lead would allow. I'm not like a big meany I think it came from having a stair gate when my children were tiny so she just kind of stayed away. She has never actually had human food so doesnt pay too much attention to it - except cheese. But I think she's worked out if she harrasses anyone eating we will say 'out!' and she likes our company far too much to push it. It surprises me because in any other aspect of life she is an absolute idiot

“Where I am, everywhere is super dog-friendly so it's natural for us to plan a long walk that has a stop-off point in a lovely pub”

I’m in the central belt of Scotland, most pubs aren’t lovely... they are dog friendly, but not often child friendly, lol

There’s a couple of country parks near me that I think have cafes, but because they’re near, they’re just every day type walks... longer ones tend to be literally in the middle of nowhere, there’s nowhere to stop, even if I wanted to.., just countryside, rofl.

There’s things like a fruit picking place with a cafe that’s dog friendly, but tbh I’d not take a dog somewhere like that, I don’t see that it’s particularly enjoyable for them, so I’d take the dog on a decent walk and then take kids there...

The people with allergies could die. So they get priority, obviously. Not likely to occur very often but that's how it has to be. I doubt a partially sighted person would rather see someone die and demand their rights.

So you think someone with allergies comes above the legal rights someone who is disabled has to be there?

It surprises me because in any other aspect of life she is an absolute idiot 😂

@adaline

So you think someone with allergies comes above the legal rights someone who is disabled has to be there?

Yes. Don't you? Asthma is a disability as well, in case you are unaware. Partially sighted person being legally denied entry to somewhere that holds a medical exemption certificate Vs dead person. Hmm. How to choose? Or should people with chronic asthma never leave their houses?

And there are legal exemptions to the legislation as highlighted earlier. With a medical certificate a taxi driver (for example) can refuse to carry a guide dog. A hairdresser can refuse to allow a dog in, if she has the certificate. And that's how it should be.

The people with allergies could die. So they get priority, obviously.

@10FrozenFingers

There are laws and businesses follow those. The laws disagree with you and give those with service dogs the priority (with exception of course).

Having a serious allergy is obviously a real hardship and it must be awful to have to plan your life around that. But luckily you can mostly plan your life around it and can be prepared with an epipen for any terrible times (of which I hope there are none).

There is no epipen for the blind but fortunately most do have the possibility of a service dog. Crossing the street, taking public transport, going out to eat or drink - you wouldn’t seriously deny them these things?

I know you feel so strongly @10FrozenFingers because you’re thinking of your own child. But put it into perspective, and maybe step away from threads in The Doghouse if you feel so vehemently anti-dog.

No. To relatives sometimes, if we’re there for a few hours, but pub lunches that don’t involve a walk etc - just no. She’s chilled and lovely most of the time but a whiff of food and she’s an overexcitable nightmare! And she’s strong too, so when she pulls on the lead it’s no fun. Almost as bad as an unruly toddler.

She’s likes lazing about in her bed at home. She gets a good walk everyday and she’s happy with that.

Our dog comes most places with us.

DH runs his own business and takes her into work with him. I can take her to work with me if he can’t

She comes to dog friendly pubs with us, we have horses so she comes to the yard with us, loves the beach and stuff like that

Our lifestyle is pretty outdoorsy and we live quite rurally so she just slots in with that. She’s good in pubs - just goes to sleep under the table

@10FrozenFingers I very much doubt your sons allergy is life threatening or your friend wouldn’t be asking if it’s ok to bring her dog into your home!

You have every right not to allow pets in your home. But you don’t get to dictate how others live. Especially those that use assistant dogs and therapy dogs!
So give yourself a shake and stop being so selfish.

Yes! One of the things we did when he was a puppy was make sure he was well socialised in cafes and pubs as we wanted to be able to take him out with us. We do choose dog friendly pubs to go to and always look out for dog friendly cafes too He's getting on a bit now and some days prefers food stay at home and snooze. My work friend has a very vocal beagle who she can't take anywhere as she does like to let people know she's around!

@10FrozenFingers unfortunately for you, the law doesn't agree.

Very, very businesses are allowed to apply for exemption certificates - and rightly so. Blind people (or other disabled people who rely on their dogs) should have the same rights as everyone else, and the same access to public places as everyone else does.

I think you're in the wrong place here. This is thread about dog-friendly places, in the dog forum. I sympathise with your DS's allergies but I don't think you're going to get the reaction you're hoping for on this thread.

I sympathise with your DS's allergies but I don't think you're going to get the reaction you're hoping for on this thread.

You're right. I thought dog owners were reasonable people. Some of them aren't. Sad really.

@10frozenfishfingers

No one is really disputing the fact there are exceptions though? I think you’ve riled yourself up for no reason. You’re pretty much arguing with yourself.

@10FrozenFingers

Not @10frozenfishfingers 😂😂😂