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Cockapoo or Golden Retriever?

113 replies

BaconAndAvocado · 10/02/2020 19:27

Considering getting a dog for the first time and these two breeds appeal.

Any thoughts?

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Kewcumber · 12/02/2020 14:11

Also just to warn you, cockapoos usually inherit the poodle fading gene so she will probably fade to steel grey whilst she's still quite young.

Kewcumber · 12/02/2020 14:13

I met both parents by the way (not that it matters)

Kewcumber · 12/02/2020 14:17

re cockapoo coats - breeder told me that about 25% end up with an adult cocker coat, about 25% with a poodle coat and 50% in between and she said you can't really tell until they've lost their puppy coat. Although she did say that she's never seen a curly pup go straight after losing it's puppy fur.

I have seen all sorts out in the park - I've seen some very poodly cockers so make sure you're prepared for that. Love the GR's but too big and too moulty for me.

Sonichu · 12/02/2020 14:18

I work with dogs and you couldn't pay me to have a cockerpoo.

BaconAndAvocado · 12/02/2020 15:20

TheFaerieQueen yes to all of your questions. I wouldn't consider taking on a dog otherwise.

There are a lot of dog owners out there who do all these thing and, unfortunately, many who don't.

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Stumpedasatree · 12/02/2020 15:20

Retriever all the way for me. Bright, loyal and loving, with a very fun side. Most of all obedient. I'm perplexed as to how they can be described as neurotic!

RougeVinEtFromage · 12/02/2020 16:37

@Sonichu let alone pay circa 1k for one! It's madness!!! Just a trend :(

bodgeitandscarper · 12/02/2020 17:08

Re the dogs trust, I would strongly recommend them, simply because they will match your family to suitable dogs. There is also support with any issues. For a first time owner you could have a ready made dog waiting for you. The best thing is to chat with the staff and look at the dogs, but focus on temperament rather than looks.

MissShapesMissStakes · 12/02/2020 21:01

I have a mini poodle.

He's amazing and such a great family dog. He was our first ever dog and so far has been a breeze (almost two). Obviously this is largely down to his parents temperaments and his own character. As well as training and research on our part.

I don't understand why cocker spaniels and poodles are mix bred to be honest as they are very similar dogs. It seems everyone wants the poodle low shed coat but nothing else about the poodle. Which is crazy. They're great dogs!

TheyAllFloat · 13/02/2020 06:35

I have to admit, I am never clear on what the cocker is meant to be bringing to the poodle party to result in a better dog than a poodle.

I love cockers but all good things about them are in poodles already, I think.

Stellaris22 · 13/02/2020 08:00

Have to agree. Most people seem to want a cockapoo for the poodle type coat so I don't get why they need the cocker spaniel part.

DeathByPuppy · 13/02/2020 08:22

Unfortunately, I think people still hear ‘poodle’ and think ‘fussy, weird Pom-Pom dog’ and think of them as high maintenance.

Beautiful3 · 13/02/2020 08:28

I have a cockerpoo. He is lovely and very clever. I think he is more poodle than spaniel. Like you I was torn between him and a gr too. I didn't want all the dog hair so got the cockerpoo. The only drawback, is the grooming cost every 8 weeks. But I do love him to pieces, and he is right for us.

wingingitalltheway · 13/02/2020 08:34

Have you considered a golden doodle? We have a 2 year old golden doodle and he is absolutely lovely. His mum was a golden doodle and dad was a medium poodle. Has some of the traits of retrievers but without the shedding. Lovely temperament, brilliant with people (including my 4 month old DD).
Does need lots of exercise, at least an hour walk a day off the lead but we like being outdoors so this has never been a problem.
Would recommend the breed to anyone!

fikel · 13/02/2020 08:41

Why not look at a poodle. I have an over sized toy, v loving, totally non shedding, extremely intelligent so will need lots of mental stimulation, will walk for miles if you want or equally happy with shorter walks.

MissShapesMissStakes · 13/02/2020 09:22

This is my poodle. Not a Pom Pom in sight. I think people do expect Pom Pom's and high maintenance. Ours is neither.

Cockapoo or Golden Retriever?
DeathByPuppy · 13/02/2020 09:28

S/He’s lovely @MissShapesMissStakes. I have the same harness (Dog Games PerfectFit?) Smile.

MissShapesMissStakes · 13/02/2020 10:18

Yes perfect fit. He's a he Smile

I like the orange because I can still see him in the woods when he thinks he's sniffed a squirrel.

iWantToBreakBrie · 13/02/2020 10:27

I swear my next dog's going to be a poodle - he's adorable missshapes

I feel a bit sorry for poodles, the trend for not thinking they are good enough as they are and only seeing their value as reducing the shedding in other breeds.

They are absolute corking dogs and would fit a great many of the 'typical' requirements for most families.

adaline · 13/02/2020 10:30

I have to admit, I am never clear on what the cocker is meant to be bringing to the poodle party to result in a better dog than a poodle.

Poodles still have that "frou frou" dog image, I think. I remember when I was a kid and a neighbour had poodles and they all had those ridiculous show cuts and they just looked...like they're not proper dogs, really. Certainly didn't make me feel any kind of warmth towards the breed!

Having met some as an adult I think they're fab. A couple near us has a standard, a miniature and a toy and walks them all together!

Kirkman · 13/02/2020 10:55

But that's how a poodle is clipped.

Poodles look so much like cockapoos when the clipped the same. People want a curly cockapoo and want to poodle coats. In which case they look like poodles

Stellaris22 · 13/02/2020 11:10

I have met a standard poodle that looked great, it didn't have a fancy coat and was very muddy. I can only assume that the desire for cockapoos is simply because people don't want to say they have a poodle because of the stigma attached. I honestly don't think cockapoo owners could tell the difference between unclipped poodles and curly cockapoos.

LovelyPuddings · 13/02/2020 11:14

Perhaps they just need a rebrand and rename? Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you the amzing new breed of dog...

The Poodoodle! It's part poodle and part poodle. All the great characteristics of a poodle but with a low shedding, poodle coat Grin

VetOnCall · 13/02/2020 11:18

Whatever dog you decide on, if you are getting a puppy it's vital to research the breeder extremely well and ensure that they know their lines thoroughly and are breeding from dogs who are both health tested and of sound temperament. In the 13 years I practiced in the UK (now in Canada) I did come across quite a few neurotic Golden Retrievers and unfortunately a high incidence of hip and elbow dysplasia and hereditary cataracts in 'pet bred' dogs.

For a first-time dog owner, I would either recommend going to a well-established rescue such as Dog's Trust or the Blue Cross who will be able to match you up with suitable dogs, or if you want a puppy, consider something along the lines of Whippets, Tibetan Terriers (which are not actually Terriers), Bichons, Lhasa Apsos, Miniature Poodles, Eurasiers, German Spitz Klein, Miniature Schnauzers or Papillons. I think Cavaliers are gorgeous little dogs but unfortunately the breed has some very severe health issues. Ex-racing Greyhounds can make amazing pets if that's something you'd consider.

If you're anywhere near Birmingham, Crufts, which incorporates Discover Dogs, is on in March. Discover Dogs is an amazing way to see literally all of the registered breeds in one place and meet lots of lovely dogs and good, responsible breeders.

www.crufts.org.uk/whats-on/discover-dogs-at-crufts/

As an aside I'm very surprised by the pp who has working Cockers who don't shed and don't like mud or water. I've owned, bred, trained and competed the breed for about 14 years now and without exception all of my dogs past and present have shed more or less constantly, need daily checking and combing of their ears and feathering for matts as well as thorns, burrs and other assorted debris that they pick up whilst tearing through the undergrowth, and are like heat-seeking missiles for mud, water and muddy water!

PuppyMonkey · 13/02/2020 11:32

This is my doggo.

As a puppy he was hard work. Bouncy. Attacking us and biting. He was just playing but he was scary. It’s a well known phase for GRs apparently.

He’s 20 months now.

Sleeps a lot. Very obedient until he sees another dog/another person who he can say hello to, then you can’t call him back for love nor money.Grin

He has a sensitive tummy and gets the runs in anything but Royal Canin, which costs £££££s

He needs two hour long walks a day, and gets so dirty even when it’s not a particularly muddy walk.Confused

He’s the most handsomest dog in history. Fact.

He also speaks fluent English and understands every word you say.

That’s it really.Grin

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