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Young Puppy Support Group

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DuchessDarty · 31/05/2019 16:01

I’d been looking for one of these but the only puppy support thread currently running is for older puppies. I’ve seen a few threads recently from posters who have new puppies like me, and thought I’d start our own group as I’d love to compare notes. But all welcome!

To kick off -

My pup, DartyPup, is a female poodle cross who is nearly 11 weeks old. Very sweet, friendly, fairly calm, sleeps a good stretch at night in her crate no problem and is happy to play in the garden by herself if I’m in the kitchen/conservatory and we easily have eyes on each other. She has a lot of naps and is doing well with house training.

But- she has the usual puppy traits of being needy and nippy. She loves biting bare toes and has a witching hour in the evening (as another poster aptly describes it!).

I adore the bond we seem to have bit am finding it draining. My children are old enough to be hands on and are keen to be, but their periods of peak energy don’t always correspond with the Pup’s. And when it comes down to it, she often wants me and so will whine if left with them downstairs while I escape for a rest. If they mistakenly leave a door open giving her access to the stairs, she’ll leg it up to find me. A stair gate isn’t an option unfortunately due to the design of our stairs.

Both my kids have never been particularly early risers and I’ve always been secretly pleased about dodging 6am wake up calls ... until DartyPup.

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calmpuppycrazykids · 19/06/2019 09:09

pudding he is gorgeous
Finally today ive had the oh my god moment I came downstairs and my front room looks like its been covered in confetti he found some papers and has shredded them all over the place Grin

SophyStantonLacy · 19/06/2019 09:41

I think we have pretty much cracked the toilet training, but still finding an awful lot of other things a struggle! He can sit, that’s about all. His recall is great in the house or garden & the second we step out of the garden into the field he has no recall at all. His walking on lead isn’t there at all, he’s started jumping up at the table, & we are still struggling with biting. Draining! He’s going to be a big dog & I am really worried about these behaviours.

Puddingmama2017 · 20/06/2019 06:49

Morning all!

PuddingPup is doing well, mostly sleeping through in his crate, not a fan of toileting in the garden!

Quick question, he’s not interested in his food. I’m planning on switching him to raw feeding in a couple of weeks but had wanted to get him settled first. Could I add a little raw mince to his kibble to try and entice him or would I be heading for disaster?

Thingsthatgo · 20/06/2019 11:12

Hello! May I join please? I have a question!
We have a new pup, a lab collie cross. She’s an utter delight, but completely doing my head in today!
Anyway, I have been trying to get my head around insurance for ages, and I could do with some help. Lots of the insurance companies seem to offer fairly low payouts. I was assuming that we’d need 10k+ per year at least, just in case, but this is offered as premium insurance.
Can you tell me how much per year, or per treatment your pup is insured for? (I’ve never had my own pet before, so not experienced in vet bills).

Nettleskeins · 20/06/2019 12:11

puppy ate Canagan from 8 weeks (for small breeds) we never had a problem with him devouring it. Could you change brand? He still likes it. What about some warm water in the mix? Cheese as a training treat was too much for my pup, gave the runs, but I've heard of people grating cheese onto kibble.
I think I read somewhere that raw and kibble are digested at different rates, leading to problems if you mix up the types of food..

Nettleskeins · 20/06/2019 12:18

I struggled with jumping up at the table Sophy, to start with it was adorable (lap!) but quickly a menace. And various people had warned me that it could become intolerable when he was older. So I always crated him in the room at meal times, or put him to sleep in another room at that time. At least it stopped the attention and biting seeking behaviour so that he didn't get into the habit. I found if I fed him before meals or during meals, and then sleep followed soon after, less problems.

Now that he is older and free ranging most of the time, I would ignore at mealtimes, or give him something to chew then, or still put him in another room if he was being unbearable. Usually he just settles down, but I try not to be in the positon where I am telling him off, more avoiding a chance that that behaviour is going to develop in teh first place (hungry, bored, attention seeking, over tired)

Puddingmama2017 · 20/06/2019 13:19

When you’re waiting for your puppy to wee and realise you’re not the only one!

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DuchessDarty · 20/06/2019 16:09

Grin @Puddingmama2017 that is very cute

Have to say it’d be handy in this house to have an extra toilet-training monitor. The cat is far more attentive than my children; I’m assuming the former doesn’t have a mobile phone to compete for their attention ...

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Puddingmama2017 · 20/06/2019 16:46

DuchessDarty

I have three cats, the one in the picture is not my cat! Grin

Mine are useless!

Think this cat is lucky though! No accidents in the house today

MsMarvellous · 21/06/2019 10:03

It's finally here, one more sleep until we pick up pup tomorrow. I have a question for you all.

We'd planned for me to sleep downstairs near him rather than have him upstairs. However, DH's mum has been taken ill and he's having to travel to see her (we live 4 hours away from her) and I doubt he'll be back to pick him up tomorrow. So, in order for me to look after kids AND pup alone I suspect I'm going to have to bring him upstairs.

If I start that way is it going to be impossible to stop. Or if I'm only doing it while he learns to settle is it going to be ok?

Or so I just cave and we have a dog who sleeps upstairs Smile

Just for full disclosure, we have a cat. I was hoping to keep the upstairs his zone and dog free to reduce stress for all involved, particularly in the adjustment period.

Can someone reassure me it'll be ok if stressful doing this on my own

moreanimalsthanhumans · 21/06/2019 10:36

@MsMarvellous. We were advised by our breeder to have downstairs in a crate and to sleep ourselves as normal. So, we put Ted as they suggested and have had no trouble. He is safe, has toys and a warm blanket and we have no bother with him. You do not need to sleep downstairs with your new boy. I would recommend getting a snuggle toy with a heart beat in it as our loves his. We too have cats, and do as you have thought so they have upstairs with Ted having downstairs. Works really well. Good luck x

MsMarvellous · 21/06/2019 10:43

Thanks @moreanimalsthanhumans I may have no choice but to do that anyway. It's reassuring to know that it works. Don't know if I'm going to be able to get a heartbeat toy. Wonder if Alexa can offer some ambient clock ticking noises or something. I will investigate 😀. We do have a hot water bottle and snuggly bed and blanket to cover it as a den. I'm also getting him early doors so can start familiarising him with the crate during the day.

moreanimalsthanhumans · 21/06/2019 11:09

@MsMarvellous sounds like he has a lovely crate. I know many people will disagree, but then I had the same thing when I had my daughters with crying etc. As long as he is safe, warm and comfortable he will be fine even if a few hiccups happen. Always best to start as mean to go on. Ted often also has time in his crate during the day when we are about, he just settles down and sleeps.. He wouldnt stop otherwise, again like a child,Pups need about 20 hrs sleep a day !

MsMarvellous · 21/06/2019 11:13

You are giving me hope! My excitement is slightly tinged with the trot at the thought of doing the first weekend alone without DH but if his mum needs him she needs him!

MrsEricBana · 21/06/2019 17:59

MsMarvellous 100% agree with others who have said you sleep upstairs as normal and crate downstairs. Start as you mean to go on. If it doesn't work you can always rethink. Good luck!

MsMarvellous · 21/06/2019 18:00

@MrsEricBana thanks.

Nettleskeins · 21/06/2019 18:11

If you have pup upstairs in the crate, he won't know whether he is upstairs or downstairs, but he will know he is near you and get used to the crate and sleeping alone accordingly. I think you will save yourself a lot of trouble if you have the crate or a light travel crate upstairs whilst your dh is away and use puppy pads. Otherwise you are going to be utterly exhausted traipsing up and down the stairs in the middle of the night, comforting children and puppies!!!

I think the opposite of start as you mean to go on, I think, whatever works and gets you through, do it! As in small babies and early motherhood! (as mum of three close together)

MrsEricBana · 21/06/2019 18:15

Ah but don't assume you'll need to get up in night, we don't.

MsMarvellous · 21/06/2019 18:24

This sounds very much like I need to play it by ear once I see him tomorrow and chat to the breeder about how he's been doing.

DuchessDarty · 21/06/2019 22:31

@MsMarvellous I agree with @Nettleskeins, or rather that approach is what I did and it worked for me.

To answer your Q directly, DartyPup had absolutely no problems settling for the night in her crate downstairs after a few nights of being her crate upstairs in our bedroom. I thought that it might be an issue but not at all. Prior to taking her upstairs, I'd spent 5 nights on the sofa next to her or nearby, but after then I needed my bed! I think having spent over a week sleeping in the same room as her really settled her.

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MsMarvellous · 22/06/2019 06:37

@DuchessDarty thanks. It's D day so we'll see how we go! I think I'm only panicking because we had a plan (me sleep in lounge next door to pup) and now my plan has been forced to change. Stress is not helping. Still...3 and a bit hours until we go pick him up.

My friend is coming along for the ride seeing as DH can't be here and the kids are excited. X

Mouldiwarp1 · 22/06/2019 11:54

Puppy joy! Just trod in a poo in the kitchen - that’ll teach me to leave a teenager in charge for an hour.

DuchessDarty · 22/06/2019 13:53

I feel your pain Mouldi

DS (10yo) had an inset day on Friday. So of course that was the one day he woke up before 5:30am, went downstairs which woke the puppy, let her out of her crate and opened the back door, then retired to the sofa with his duvet to play Fortnite, leaving DartyPup to run amok.

DH was working from home yesterday and as both kids were off school, we were looking forward to having a lie-in. (8am as opposed to 6:30am). Instead we were woken by an enthusiastic DartyPup bounding into our bedroom at 5:30am. I carried her back downstairs and on entering the living room, trod in a puddle of wee.

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MsMarvellous · 22/06/2019 15:23

Well we have a dog! He's been brilliant so far but then he's wiped out from all the excitement so I reserve the right to rein in my joy at any time. I have him booked in for second Vaccinations next week. Pic attached now I can join in

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DuchessDarty · 22/06/2019 20:15

Oh my goodness @MsMarvellous
MarvelPup (as I’m calling him - feel free to change Grin) is a beaut! Look at him, he’s so perfect with his red collar he looks like a little statue.

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