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Pugs

139 replies

Myusernameisunique · 07/03/2018 10:44

So DH and I have been looking for a family pet for a while now. We've settled on a pug after a lot of research. I've been on touch with an amazing and very knowledgeable breeder who has recommended a breeder to us who has pups that are ready to go. She knows the breeder well and her dog was the stud for this litter so I feel like we'd be making a good choice taking on a pup from this line.
We go to visit in a few days with the possible plan of bringing him home if we decide we want to take him.
I now need to hear from you all about pugs. I would like owner experiences and want to know everything. The good, bad and the ugly! I think it will be a lot more helpful than the articles I've read online. Anything is appreciated so thank you very much in advance!

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Floralnomad · 07/03/2018 15:19

I don’t own one , I know a couple and they really stink , way more than any other dogs I know .

Rosetree123 · 07/03/2018 15:28

I have a pug and although I love him to bits I would never ever get another. He is wild, so hyper, doesn't do as he is told at all so bloody stubborn, opens my fridge door (had to get a child lock on fridge) he used to piss and shit everywhere until I got him neutered. On top of all this he's been to the vets with eye ulcers, ear infections, other random things one time costing £7000 and we never found out what was wrong. Thank God for insurance but it increases every year because of this. I've had dogs all my life and never have they been like this, I do love him and he has calmed down alot since he's got a bit older but honestly I wouldn't advise it.

Toolchest13 · 07/03/2018 15:31

I have a pug. He’s nearly 6 now and I love him dearly. He’s such a friendly little dog and he’s brilliant with my children (one’s a toddler)

The good: mine is quite slim and fit and can walk for a couple of hours without needing a rest. He doesn’t eat much which I know is unusual for pugs! He hasn’t (touch wood) had any health problems so far. He is cheap to take to the groomers. He is excellent with children - by far my biggest concern.

The bad: he snores, he attracts people (especially children/teenagers) from far and wide, he needs lots of attention and is not keen being alone, HE SMELLS

Myusernameisunique · 07/03/2018 15:37

I have seen pictures of the pups and mum and dad. Dad's quite a famous pug. None of the pics suggest very bulgy eyes or an extremely short snout. Ill be meeting all the dogs when we visit so I'll be able to have a good look for that. These are all things I looked into already though and I really do know what I'm looking for its months and months of research. But thank you to the pug owners responding and telling me what life is like with one as that's the info I need now. Also the honesty is great. I need the cons as well as the pros. I think a furminator will be my new best friend and we're all hard flooring too so not so bad. I was hoping they would sit on a blanket on the sofa as we have a fabric one so will start that as I mean to go on. I also hoover pretty much every day which is part of the joys of having children so that'll be no different! I have a very tidy organised house and no toys really sitting out that could cause an injury. Food is mostly eaten in the kitchen so pug wouldn't be allowed in at mealtimes. I'll also research low cal/low fat treats for training. I'm thinking carrot pieces and apples? My plan was to wash pugs face every morning and night with a flannel (theyll have their own ones) the same as my DDs get, just basically add them into that routine. I was just going to use warm water and pat dry but if anyone has any recommendations there id be happy to have them. I will also reiterate for those who would like to give me a bashing about going to buy this pup. I am going to see the pup and have in no way committed to buying it. There will be a lot of factors I'll be taking into consideration when I go to view and because of that DH and I haven't told anyone except my DM we're going for a look. I don't want anyone being disappointed if we don't come home with a pup.

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Myusernameisunique · 07/03/2018 15:40

I'm thinking that a weekly/fortnightly bath and daily face washing will help combat the smell? It's a hope and correct me if I'm wrong!

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Strawberryshortcake40 · 07/03/2018 15:48

You need to clean the fold over their nose daily with a cotton bud and weak saline solution. Or so I was told by the vet. We had been washing our pug puppy's face with a cloth but hasn't got right into the fold, it goes a looooong way back.

They hate having their nails clipped, the vet did ours, puppy screamed the place down. It's a pug thing apparently Hmm

I was always of the "dogs sleep in a crate in the kitchen" mind. But pugs don't always agree with that I've now found out. Ours sleeps on my shoulder in bed. She hates being left or not in human contact.

Totally different to any other dog I've known but she's absolutely amazing. She's hilarious and everyone who's met her loves her. Does fart a lot though....!!

Rosetree123 · 07/03/2018 15:49

I feed mines raw food which has definitely helped with his weight and smell but baths don't help, I can bath mines and he can stink again the next day.

Rosetree123 · 07/03/2018 15:52

Also their anal glands are prone to leaking and it smells like fish YUK I know! but the feeding him raw seems to have stopped this too. One thing I will say though is he's amazing with my little boy and my baby girl!

Myusernameisunique · 07/03/2018 16:06

I have considered raw feeding. I know all about anal gland emptying unfortunately from all the other dogs I've owned growing up. I haven't had a dog that hasnt done that. Pug will 100 percent never sleep in my bed. That's a rule I wouldnt break. I even grudge sharing with DH lol!

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Myusernameisunique · 07/03/2018 16:08

I'll be leaving nail clipping to professionals as well. I still wouldn't cut DDs nails and have filed them since they were both born. I'm too scared of hurting them!

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Strawberryshortcake40 · 07/03/2018 16:17

Yes I would never have let a dog even upstairs. But I also wasn't going to leave a hysterical puppy alone! We did a week in the lounge until I gave in so I could sleep.

Tbh puppy is a far nicer bedmate than my exh ever was Grin

MRSJWRTWR · 07/03/2018 17:27

My pug doesn’t smell and my house doesn’t smell ‘doggy’ according to non dog owning friends. He gets a bath once every six weeks or so and I clean his face with non perfumed baby wipes every day. My trainer, who has a bulldog, recommended these. He can, however, clear a room in seconds now and again.

SwimmingInTheBlueLagoon · 07/03/2018 17:31

Things like smell can be down to food. Royal Canin made mine have a strong 'doggy' stink, put them on better quality food and now they are low smell dogs. I don't think it's a breed thing, I think it's down to their food suiting them or not.

Also with things like nails, whilst some breeds have a tendency to be overly sensitive about things, it depends on early socialisation and how they are treated during nail trims.

Toolchest13 · 07/03/2018 18:04

Swimming

Can I ask what food you do use? I’ve tried a few but tend to use the one specially for pugs (I think it’s canine)

Treacletoots · 07/03/2018 18:13

Sorry but as much as I love all dogs I could never support breeding in a breed that notoriously has so many health problems. It sounds like you've got a full on routine to just keep the dog going/minimize issues but honestly there's plenty of fabulous breeds/scrufffs who won't demand this of you.

We have a cavapoo after experiencing first hand what a short nose/bulging eyes does to a dog (king Charles cavalier) and she has so so many health problems we decided to go for a cross this time. We were spending thousands a year on vets bills just to keep her going, and she was only 6! :(

Bamaluz · 07/03/2018 18:35

I don't know how you can still be keen to get a pug when all the health problems have been pointed out to you.

There are so many other breeds without breathing problems that make good family dogs.

Strawberryshortcake40 · 07/03/2018 18:44

Not all pugs have problems. I know of a fair few that are hardy healthy little things who love a good run around.

When we got one I figured at least I knew the issues we may face. We have been told by the vet that our puppy is very quiet for the breed but if there's any concerns they will operate on her nose when she's spayed. We chose a puppy from parents who had noses and less bulgy eyes.

We also have a spaniel. They are thought of as healthy breeds. I've lost count of the money she's cost so far. Kidney problems, bladder problems, ear issues, eye issues, allergies, stomach issues. She's on prescription food and her ears/eyes need daily care. We love her to pieces but she was supposed to be an "easy" breed. She also smells too. Some dogs do.

Balearica · 07/03/2018 18:59

Pug bashing is a bit of a "thing" ATM. All I can say is that if you get the right dog a lot of the issues which are attributed to "all pugs" are just not true.

I have a three year old pug and he has never been to the vets for any problems, is happy to go on long walks and does not smell, or not more than any other dog anyway. I have two other dogs of a different "active" breed and he walks and plays with them with no problems although they are faster. I do not let him get fat though.

Fabulous temperament, pugs are real jokers and real people dogs. I wipe his folds with a damp piece of kitchen roll once a week - never had any problems, He has never needed his nails clipping because he gets walked enough to wear them down.

It is true pugs are slow to house train, shed like mad and snore (though so does one of my cats). He is incredibly greedy but you learn to watch out for food stealing opportunities. I love all my dogs but we all agree that the pug has the most personality and is the most fun.

SwimmingInTheBlueLagoon · 07/03/2018 20:20

tool for dogs that keep weight on easy or are a bit fat prone, I favour Pooch & Mutt (calm or slimming variety) and for dogs with sensitive tums that are naturally a bit too slim/loose weight easily I'm having the most success with BarkingHeads 'tender loving care'. I've tried quite a few of the top rated foods on that comparison website that's often linked to on here but prefer the results of pooch & mutt or barking heads, dependent on dog. With either of those foods my dogs stop being smelly.

toboldlygo · 07/03/2018 20:41

Owners of brachycephalic dogs are very bad at recognising that their dogs are affected by airway disease.

Bedknobsandhoover · 07/03/2018 21:01

Pugs have been around for hundreds of years and are a long lived breed. One I know well is out in all weathers for up to two hours a day. He’s six and has never been ill.
BUT pugs are very popular right now and popularity is disastrous for any breed. Irresponsible owners will be mass producing them to low standards and that’s why so many have problems.

SwimmingInTheBlueLagoon · 07/03/2018 21:29

Bed pugs in their current form haven't been around for hundreds of years. Google 1900s pug and you'll see they had muzzles more like a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel (shorter than other breeds but still a proper muzzle unlike on the modern pug).

I hope breeders who are trying to reduce the over exaggeration and get back the old style muzzle are successful. Pugs have wonderful characters.

iheartmyponeh · 07/03/2018 21:40

I have a pug and I am a vet.

My pug is treated like a 'proper dog', is kept VERY slim and fit enough to do long walks with my other (very athletic) dogs. He is very friendly with people and hilarious to be around.

The downside: He is very vocal and very opinionated. I got him as a young rescue because his previous owner couldn't cope with him. Housetraining was a nightmare and we still get the odd accident. Other dogs are often wary of him as I think they find it hard to read his body language (wide mouth, wide eyes, short curled tail). His breathing has been assessed and he is pretty good (for a pug) but has had surgery on his eyes to try to reduce the risk of him developing corneal ulcers. He also has a congenital spinal malformation that he copes well with at present but is likely to ultimately shorten his life expectancy. Anyone taking a pug on should be prepared to pay for airway and eyelid surgery as a very minimum. They are also very prone to atopic dermatitis, mast cell tumours, syringomyelia, etc, etc the list could go on.

Whoever said that Pugs should be allowed to die out is nuts. They have been in Europe since the 16th Century and in China for a whole lot longer than that. If you look at old paintings though, they were taller, sportier dogs with longer muzzles and less bulging eyes. Far too many pug pups have been registered with the KC in the past few years, and in my opinion, the problem starts with the perception of what a pug should be. The potato-shaped blobs with bulging eyes and no nose are not really what we should be encouraging, either by buying the pups or placing them in the show ring.

If you want a pug look for something with a longer muzzle and open nostrils. Avoid if you can see a lot of the white of the eye. Once punters act with their wallet (and the bloody breed standard is modernised), hopefully things will change and welfare will improve.

(Mine is castrated btw!)

TattyTShirt · 07/03/2018 21:46

A pug is not a breed I would choose tbh... but if your heart is set on a pug I would recommend you get the best insurance!

FrozenMargarita17 · 07/03/2018 21:50

Not entirely the same but we bought a French bulldog from a breeder. Had all the health checks yadayada. He was an incredibly poorly dog, with several hereditary problems. We had to have him PTS at 2.5 because his back legs stopped working - spinal and hip problems.

Pay for the highest of cover, and don't take breeder health checks as a sign he won't get anything. If possible, pay for lifetime cover.

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