Why oh why do people buy Gumtree puppies?

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I've just been sent a FB page of a family very local to me who bought a pug puppy from a Gumtree and and she died of parvo three days later.
I am sorry for them, and to have had their new pup die in their arms must have been truly awful.
They are now working with the RSPCA, and police and have been on local radio trying to get attention for the case, having discovered that the same seller was selling multiple breeds from several set-up addresses.
But really, to buy an unvaccinated, un-microchipped puppy from a 'breeder' on Gumtree , and to collect the pup half an hour after you see the ad - how could anyone think that was a good idea? I just don't know how many times the message has to be repeated :(

You said don't believe poodle crosses are good for allergy sufferers. Not true.

But it is true for my DP and many others like him.

I have two cats. Sisters. I'm allergic to one.
Go figure.
Anyone who markets any animal as hypoallergenic needs their bumps felt. And anyone who falls for it needs to look at the odds. Labradoodle. Cross. So 50/50.

Sigh.

I am terribly sorry that I offended you when I expressed my observations of the poodle crosses I've observed. It was not meant as a slight against your DD.

I'm off to Bedfordshire now and taking my discriminatory remarks against poodles elsewhere.

Arrggghhhh, but you've not acknowledged that there is no way to GUARANTEE that.

For many people who have allergies to dogs, they are fine with some breeds and some crossbreeds. The pp was trying to infer that poodle crosses are not fine for allergy sufferers. She also made a lot of other very negative generalisations about their character. None of this tallies with my experience. I am entitled to come on here and say that.

You can guarantee it if you get an older dog OHDear.

Your ONE dog has worked out well for your ONE family. That doesn't mean that any person who buys a poodle cross (often from a puppy farmer) won't suffer an allergic reaction.

Don't be absurd Wolfie. You know that there are countless people with similar stories to mine.

No no no no you can't!

You can not guarantee how the person with allergies will react to the dog.

It is not just about shedding. It's more complex than that.

But countless people who also thought a poodle cross wouldn't trigger allergies and did.
It's a cross. 50/50.
It's not hard to work out.

I haven't said anywhere that you can guarantee it. Don't misrepresent what I am saying.

And if you think that genetics is all about 50/50'you know nothing about genetics.

The point I'm trying to make (and honestly I'm a lovely person in RL) is that my worry is that dogs should NOT be advertised as hyperallergenic.

The reason I say this is not because of the individual dog but the individual human.

As a consultant in allergies said to me 'allergies don't behave logically'.

I worry about the advitising aspect of it.

I'm really pleased it's worked out for you and your DH as I love dogs and know they bring joy to people.

But I think your missing the point I'm trying to make.

So you can't guarantee it.
That's enough.
When taking on a pet it's for life. Not "until I see if I'm horribly allergic or not".
I know a couple of cockerpoos. One looks just like a cocker and one a complete poodle. It's a cross. Who knows what you will get?
I get fed up of idiots saying "I have a somethingpoo and I'm not allergic. Totally recommend it!"
Idiotic.
What happens when some eejit buys one off t'intenet, finds they are allergic to the puppy farmed baby and dumps it on scumtree?

I'm not missing the point at all and I agree that it is wrong to advertise them in this way. My issue is that you said that it was not true that they don't cause allergic reactions. The fact is that for many people, my DP included who struggles when he's in the same room as a lab, they are fine. There's no guarantee as some do cause allergic reactions but many, including my own ddog, don't.

Are you calling me an idiot Wolfiefan?

Argh!
There is no such thing as "they"
Poodle crosses are not a breed. There is no knowing what coat you will get.
Regardless. Because one person doesn't react to one dog? It's meaningless. It doesn't mean no one will react to any similar crossbreed.

Where on earth have I said they are a breed?

"They are fine"
Implying that nobody with allergies will react to any of these dogs.
Ridiculous.
I say that as someone with many allergies. I am allergic to some dogs and not others. I spent a (rather embarrassing!) couple of years getting as close as possible to the breed I wanted. I tend to react on my face first so I actually buried my whole face in quite a few wolfhounds!
I don't react to them. But I would never presume to tell someone who suffered with allergies that they wouldn't react to a Wolfie.

Why oh why do people buy Gumtree puppies?

Because they are thoughtless cunts who want it now, who will not be told no and who think they know better than animal experts, vets, the RSPCA and all the rest of the do-gooders.

Because a large portion of the general public simply need putting down humanely.

Gumtree sellers are more than likely illegally churning puppy farmed animals who are suffering horribly.

I Would just like to point out I have nothing against crosses.

I'm sat next to a 'cross', fuck knows what he's crossed with though!

And WolfieFan do not speak to me like I am a moronic, first time dog owner. I have owned dogs all of my life. I have had rescues, I have fostered dogs, all of which were a particular 'breed'. It was only when I met DP and we were presented with the problem of his allergy that we decided to go down the cross breed route (and yes, this is how I describe my dog, she's a crossbreed).
I have seen how unscrupulous many breeders are including KC registered breeders with so-called impeccable kennels. I have fostered their bitches who have been bred into the ground. For very personal reasons we wanted a younger dog we could train ourselves (DP is disabled and can't manage a dog which isn't good on the lead).
As I have said, do not assume we are all idiots.

Ohdear
Best dog ever was a rescue crossbreed. And yes. That WAS his official title!

It is idiotic to say a cross breed is hypoallergenic.
As it is to say any particular animal is guaranteed not to cause a reaction.
Great it's worked out for you.
But irresponsible to say "buy this cross breed and you won't be allergic"

I can't engage with you anymore WolfieFan. I have seen you post before and I formed a view of you then. I wish I hadn't been tempted to be be drawn into your stupidity.