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Help been driven to despair/ divorce by 11 month old beagle

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Bahhhhhumbug · 13/10/2017 22:27

Hi got a rescue 11 month old beagle no history of mistreatment just came from a very young family don't think they could cope with her. So not a nervous dog with issues at all but extremely lively and only house trained otherwise no lead training or sit training or nothing really apart from the house training. Oh and she sleeps well through the night once settled.
So have made really good progress with her in the 9 days had her by following all the usual rules rewarding good and completely ignoring bad behaviour etc and have drastically cut down on her leaping up to greet and at the kitchen worktops when we're cooking etc and ld say about a 40% improvement in her lead walking.
But what l am struggling with is this nighttime madness of hers which we just can't break and it is causing a horrible atmosphere and dh has even said he wants her to go back and there's something wrong with her she's mad etc.
Every evening last five days or so she suddenly turns into this biting grabbing snatching everything little demon. I have tried everything in the book but have ended up having lock myself in the kitchen with her and leave hubby in lounge for hours till she finally gives up and goes to sleep or calms down.
We have tried ignoring her but obviously when she starts knawing on the furniture or runs off with the remote or leaps up on the TV table then you can't. Plus she then thinks you are playing which winds her up more.
I have tried putting her out the room which actally worked after ten attempts today and she went to sleep last time she was let in. But at night and tonight it doesn't usually work and on top of that she starts trying to bite my hands when l try grab her and although lm sure this is only because she again thinks lm playng rather than aggressive. Tonight l have put her out 15 times and still craziness starts again as soon as let back in. Also she scratches at the door so fast and hard the house shakes which my DH finds really enraging.
So we put her out in the garden and she starts to dig at 100 miles an hour and digs massive holes in seconds so we can't do that either.
We got her a couple of Kings which are always at the ready in the freezer and do calm her for about twenty mins. Also she gets three long walks a day including some lead training and some long lead fun and sniffing etc and l train/ interact with her lots.
On the plus side my kitchen has never been cleaner because whilst lm out there constantly pushing her away from me or things she can't have or do etc and waiting it out l ignore her by cleaning my kitchen. But seriously it is awful and although l am determined to stick it out and be consistent etc. my DH is now announcing all this reriding the good behaviour is all rubbish etc and is no longer giving her a little pat or a treat when she's behaving nicely. So she seems be diving at him more as l think she's confused now at his change towards her and tries all the more. He'd never hit her or anything like that don't get me wrong but doesn't seem to get that even shouting at her to stop when she's in full flow is giving her attention.

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ThePlatypusAlwaysTriumphs · 14/10/2017 00:04

Re recall: of my 2, old boy could not be off the lead, as he didn't ever know where I was, and would panic and run the other way. Ddog2 could be off the lead, but I had to watch her at all times - if I stopped to talk to another dog walker she saw her chance and was off!! Sometimes at night I would let her out in the garden and she would give me the Look and I knew it meant she was off......for hours!

winglesspegasus · 14/10/2017 00:05

shes a working dogg/genetically programed to hunt/make games for her hide toys and when she goes looking lead her to it.eventually she will hunt all on her own.many ideas on here good.have a staffy doing zoomies right now 9 months,but she knows she will go out for awhile then its bed time
good luck dont give up

BiteyShark · 14/10/2017 00:05

I would say recall training is hard for most breeds. Mine is a working spaniel and went through a terrible period of selective hearing with recall and I had a few moments when I thought he had gone for good (although I suspect he knew exactly where I was but I couldn't see him). His recall is so much better now and I have the ultimate weapon as he has developed a tennis ball obsession so I just wave a ball and he comes back. At your dogs age I would recommend getting help with recall with a trainer as she is a bit older so won't have had that initial Velcro behaviour as a very young puppy when off lead.

Bahhhhhumbug · 14/10/2017 00:08

Playpen yes could probably get one very cheaplynne l imagine and yes mini l will try more brain games and less walking I am going to make a snufflemat this weekend. My old dog used love playing a game with paper cups and just lock them out the room and have ten cups lined up and keep moving the treat ( a large Tommy Cooper Grin

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Bahhhhhumbug · 14/10/2017 00:09

'a la' not a large

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Bahhhhhumbug · 14/10/2017 00:19

wingless l won't give up she is such a lovely little soul except from 7 till 9pm and yes l need to think more breed specific entertainment. I think labs that lm used to would play fetch till they had a heart attack and never tire of it. But maybe Beagles need something more and find it boring lol.

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Bahhhhhumbug · 14/10/2017 00:22

Ooh we have a local tennis court l might ask or just go for it one night as long as lm sure not to leave any evidence

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winglesspegasus · 14/10/2017 00:52

i met this lady when training a search and resue pup
she is multi talented maybe this will help
www.yourpurebredpuppy.com/training/beagles.html

Bubble2bubble · 14/10/2017 07:37

I have a pup here at the moment who goes into horrific biting frenzy around 7-8.00 in the evening. She has a playpen, and at this time I have to put her in there with a selection of chew toys.
About half an hour later she's fine and comes out calm for a snuggle on the sofa. It's all normal!

missbattenburg · 14/10/2017 13:12

Some dogs do great on Wainwrights but I remember reading somewhere that they use a preservative called BHT which, when tested on mice, made them weigh less, sleep less and fight more than the control mice fed something else.

Couldn't say for sure but it might be worth investigating this a bit more and think considering changing the food if your research backs this up?

Allaboutdogdood.com is a great site for comparing foods and finding a good one, if you decide to change.

PhuntSox · 14/10/2017 13:43

We have a beagle, we had this too. Ours is now four and sleeps all evening - there is hope!

We use a crate, often they are making themselves worse at that time and need time out. We find several small walks rather than one large walk work well too. Maybe a new routine? Walk at six, time out in crate afterwards, than quiet time in the lounge with the lights off and tv on?

Wolfiefan · 14/10/2017 13:44

Your local biarding kennels may be nice enough to let you use their secure space? We go to a rescue and make a donation when we use their paddock!

Bahhhhhumbug · 14/10/2017 13:46

Hello all my kind helpers. Just an update how l've got on today. We have just taken her out round our local town and she has met lots of other on lead dogs successfully. She was very good on her lead and hardly pulled at all ( pockets full of treats every other 'heel' l give her one and lots of praise).

When we got back ( which as some of you said is a trigger as all buzzing from her walk ) she seemed to be winding up to stert a frenzy hour so l simply left her on her lead at long length and just kept calmly restraining her which is obviously much easier on the lead. I have not let her in the lounge at all whilst hyped up.
After about ten minutes she started to chew one of her toys near her bed so l took her lead off and am pleased to report she is now sleeping in her bed like butter wouldn't melt.
I know these post walk daytime ones aren't the worst and no doubt her alter ego ' Devil Dog ' will make a comeback this evening.
But l will walk her then and then do this same routine again leaving lead on etc. Oh and only when calm be allowed in lounge. Thank you so much l will keep reporting back as lm sure it won't be the end of it but l now have light at end of tunnel and even grumpy DH has had to concede she is much better.
DH is back at work next week so l will be able to train her more and do as much repetition as necessary without someone in the background saying it's not working etc.

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missbattenburg · 14/10/2017 13:47

great news!!

Bahhhhhumbug · 14/10/2017 13:56

Thank you MissB and l will look at her food but gradually blend it in if l decide change it. I have however left the peanut butter out of her Kings. I will see how she goes but if still having probs look at changing her food. Interesting about the additive. We have bought some chicken breasts from the butchers and l bought some locally grown carrots to give her as treats and put in her food so are going start giving her a few more 'natural' meals imbetween the Wainwright's.

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Bahhhhhumbug · 14/10/2017 13:57

Kongs

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minsmum · 14/10/2017 16:09

That is wonderful news, well done you. We were given a quizle, not sure how it is spelt, by the rescue it's like a Kong but the treat is slid in one end . I am not describing it very well. It took the Fox hound 10 times as long to get the food out.

Bahhhhhumbug · 14/10/2017 16:42

Ah yes mini
they told us about a 'snuffle mat" where they have to work out where the treat is. There's instructions in this month's WAG actually how to make your own. Dogs Trust monthly magazine that is

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yawning801 · 14/10/2017 16:50

She sounds a lot better OP.

Regarding recall training: is there a treat that she really loves? e.g cocktail sausages, tiny bits of bacon, etc? There's a youtuber called Oliver The Beagle and his owner uses a sausage to tempt him into coming when he uses an emergency recall word (I think he uses "Feebo" as it is easily distinguishable from everyday words). Obviously you need to keep an eye on a beagle's weight, but might be worth a try.

Also, do you know 100% that she's neutered? Did you get her from a reputable shelter that automatically does neutering, or is she still entire?

yawning801 · 14/10/2017 16:51

Also, if you have a hard floor then ice cubes work a treat (literally) for keeping my friend's DDog (a nutty JRT cross) occupied. You may have to clean up afterwards! Ditto bits of cucumber.

minsmum · 14/10/2017 17:05

I will have a look at that thanks

Bahhhhhumbug · 14/10/2017 17:15

Oh and thank you. DH is still behaving like a bloody sibling rival and picking up on every little setback. Fine this morning and conceded dog imuch better but then this afternoon l went upstairs and left her locked in the kitchen for a few minutes and a yoghurt pot on the table. My fault should have binned it and just left lounge door open as closing it woke her up so then of course she was banging on door and he had lot her in. So then he's all negative about her again. Can't wait for him go back to work its pathetic. She pissed him off a few days and now it's like 'lm not interested in her' It's upsetting me actually as we had a male rescue cross last time and he was 6 or 7 when we got him and he always said he couldn't bond with him and he preferred girl dogs and also because he was old when we got him. So l lose my old dog a month ago am heartbroken and he says we'll get you another one ( for my birthday) I deliberately pick a female and a young one as l don't care either way old/ young /male /female but to be considerate to him. He also hated fact with our old rescue we had to watch him like a hawk with DHs visiting grandkids as he had been badly mistreated so was a nervous dog ( and therefore potential to bite if felt cornered -though he never did in the end bless him). So l get a soft natured young, female and because a few problems with her (which are clearly resolveable) he's acting like a kid who got a dog for Christmas and has lost interest in it by New Year

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Bahhhhhumbug · 14/10/2017 17:20

Sorry this has turned into a rant about dh. But l am finding it so much more stressful without support and someone almost willing you to fail instead of both working together

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Bahhhhhumbug · 14/10/2017 17:22

'let her in' a drink forgot to say yes she got the yoghurt pot.

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Bahhhhhumbug · 14/10/2017 17:25

God this bloody autocorrect is doing my head in. ...and forgot to say...... not..........a drink forgot to say !!!!

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