Pug?!

[Stormzythecat]

Just looking for peoples experiences with pug puppies really. I've looked after an older adult pug in the past and know they are mad (in a good way) but we have found a pug boy that seems perfect for us he's 15 weeks,housetrained and doesn't nip,he is kc reg and coming straight from the breeder.

So I suppose what I want to know is are they hard and very hyper as pups? More so than any other puppy I mean. We have had a puppy here we looked after for 2 weeks but that was a shih tzu and very chilled so was fine with young kids.

OP, you really shouldn't get a dog. You've proved you have not done your research, you're willing to buy a dog that may have known health problems from non-healthchecked parents, you still haven't answered if your puppy will be endorsed which means it won't be, and you seem to think that being KC Reg means your dog is a well-bred dog. You know nothing about pedigree dogs, in thst case. Please, do not get the dog.

@CatchingBabies - pugs from good breeders do not cost thousands and will not have breathing issues. Puppy farmed pugs cost thousands because stupid people are willing to pay it.

Absolutely not joining the 'no-one should ever buy a puppy, just go get a rescue Staffie/Greyhound or you clearly don't love dogs' crowd , but are you sure a Chin is a good idea with young children OP. In my (limited, I agree) experience, they like a quieter life.

If you take a look at my dog most days he looks fine , in the past year he's been to the vets once for his vaccinations , in reality he has SLO , bilateral luxating patellar and some undiagnosed problem with his teeth ( prob related to the SLO) - you certainly wouldn't want to buy something related to him ! Owning both parents screams BYB or puppy farmer to me .

This thread has moved on, and it doesn't really matter, but it's Sunday and I'm avoiding doing anything more useful ...

You don't want them to own both parents, that suggests they have not actively sought out a good stud and they are just breeding their own pets as an easy money spinner from home.

People are very simplistic on these threads, but buying a puppy is a very difficult thing. There really is no 'one answer fits all', you have to look at the whole scenario. Yes, if someone has two overweight chocolate Labradors in their front room, or a Poodle male with various other bitches running around producing crossbred litters, they are just breeding for cash. On that basis, it's often true to say that having both parents is a bad sign, but also often in the case of truly dedicated breeders this is very far from the case.

Just because the dog is in their home, doesn't mean they haven't bought in, imported for new bloodlines, bought in a bitch to match the best Champion bitch they've ever bred ... I have two males here, one from France, one from Germany - much expense and many many many miles spent looking at relatives, seeing puppies at 'selection age' and then back again to collect them when they are old enough to travel. Expensive health tests on top when they are the correct age too, of course. Nothing easy or cheap about it.

It is so complicated. As ever, a breeder who can demonstrate years of experience, true dedication to their breed, accurate health tests and generations of healthy dogs to see is the best bet in my book.

whitney , the difference being these dogs don't seem to have health tests , which doesn't indicate a good responsible breeder - they just look healthy .

If they have actually gone through the expense of buying the male rather than just looking for a "good" stud and paying less, I would worry how about many litters they would want to get out of their bitch to justify it. These breeds often have so many problems with their bodies that they can't give birth without significant risk to their health. So they shouldn't have more than one litter. I personally think they should have zero litters. The dogs can't even fucking breathe properly.

I don't like posting this negative stuff, but someone has to advocate for these little dogs who are suffering but can't tell you.

My sister and I both got puppies at the same time. She got a pug and I got a mini Schnauzer. Both fantastic with kids, cats, other dogs. Both lovely temperament. My sisters pug sadly had to be put to sleep a couple of weeks ago after thousands of pounds of vets bills. He had hardly any teeth and was going blind then succumbed to cancer. My Schnauzer is still skipping about like a puppy.

You need to really weigh up the pros and cons. My sisters pug really was the most gorgeous, special boy but he had so many health problems.

Having said that, most breeds have their own particular potential health problems (including designer cross breeds!)

I think pugs do polarise opinion as people seem to either love them or hate them. I loved my sisters one but I wouldn't get one. I couldn't cope with the endless shedding!

I've got a pug and she is lovely - a real character. However I wouldn't have another and wouldn't advise anyone to buy me be either.

I pay £47 a month insurance and she's had around 6k of treatment.

Had I known better I would have avoided this breed. She is of 'good lines' and I thought by assuring that was all I needed to do! Snort to my sillier self.

Oh and the shedding yes it's horrendous but i furminate once a week and that helps.

*buy one

I've spoke to the seller at great length and she knows I have young kids. But my kids are respectful of animals my last dog was a chihuahua cross RESCUE.
And the seller is more than happy that. I will be providing a happy home for pup. I'm lucky that I live in a lovely area surrounded by miles of open fields and it is very safe.
I'm not stupid and know there will be vet costs.
And yes she will be endorsed.

Surely it's more important that I have done my research and I know the dog will fit in well with my lifestyle, then to go to a rescue (if I could) and get a dog that may have issues and may end up getting rehomed again.

So how do you know it's not a puppy farmer?
Have the parents been health tested?
Did you check that co efficient of breeding mentioned above?
How is this a breed that suits you and what research have you done?
Of do you just want a cute puppy because you want one and bugger the consequences?!

Using the term 'seller' says it all!

I am sorry, I know that rescues aren't for everyone and that is absolutely fine, BUT you're just being daft and going to crap back yard breeders for the ease of getting your desired unhealthy dog as soon as possible.

A good breeder would have a waiting list. You are being wreckless and incredibly naive. Especially with your sudden change of heart over breed and suddenly finding one. Stupid to say the least

'Miles of open fields' how interested do you think an attention hungry, not much of an exerciser, needing huge amounts of socialisation to prevent problems Japanese Chin will be interested in you living in 'miles of open fields'?

As above. Also, the dog isn't interested in running around fields because IT CAN'T BREATHE

Fuck it I'm getting a gold fish.

Oh wait they need water and a bowl you say? Shit

I don't know about pugs but being a KC registered breeder should in no way be a reassurance that the dogs are well and healthy. It's partly down to the bloody KC that perigee dogs these days are totally deformed and unrecognisable from their origins.