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If you're worried about your pet's health, please speak to a vet or qualified professional.

13yr old Lab has very wobbly back legs...

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ChickenAndSpinachBalti · 22/05/2017 20:31

Back legs have been wobbly for a while. Occasionally going from under her when out for a walk and changing direction. Mentioned it to the vet at her yearly check up in Feb - who said it is just an age thing.

Collapsed on them today for a few moments. She couldn't right herself and only could get back up with help. Seemed a bit stressed out with it all so had a bit of a rest. Has been pootling around again, trotting up and down the garden, weeing OK etc. Seems OK in herself now.

Have booked an appointment with the vet tomorrow. Anyone got any idea if this is a waste of their time? Will they be able to do anything? Should I just cancel it and - well, you know, kind of wait it out until things are...you know.

My beautiful girl - the best dog ever. Anyone have any insight into whether this is kind of it - beginning of the end? Sad Do I need to start preparing the DC (and myself) for news?

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Rightpivotturn · 26/05/2017 23:06

I'm going to suggest a "middle way". Grin We've had older dogs put down when it was clear they were in pain and not likely to get better, and we didn't want to put them through difficult or invasive surgery, for instance. BUT as a broad rule of thumb, I think if you are going to have an old dog, you should be willing to consider actively managing their health, their quality of life and ultimately the end of their life, rather than just avoiding the issue.

Like other posters, I don't regard old age as a disease (my thinking was transformed on this issue by a vet some ten years ago who was passionate about reframing how we approach the care of older dogs).

As a recent example, we have a greyhound who's just short of her 14th birthday. She was already on Metacam and Nutraquin for joint stiffness but we noticed earlier this year some difficulties for her - stiffness, less running about, some dragging of feet etc.

We discussed it with our vet and made it clear that we wouldn't want to put her through surgery but we wanted to know more about what was going on. After X rays (which I don't regard as either invasive or traumatic, in general) we discovered that her hips were fine, but she had some bone spurs along her back.

She was then referred to our local clinic where she had gait analysis and the wonderful vet there prescribed a personalised programme of massage, acupuncture and hydrotherapy, plus some stretches and proprioception work for us to do at home with her. The difference has been remarkable and is a joy to behold. She has regained some fantastic muscle tone in her back legs, markedly improved her posture, runs more freely and is generally behaving like an overgrown puppy once more when we are out on our adventures.

There is nothing unpleasant or invasive about the treatment in the clinic and while I'm extremely conscious that we have a limited time left with her, I am happy that we have done everything we possibly can to ensure she has a comfortable pain free life for as long as we have her for.

I'd also add that it's essential to have a good dialogue with your vet - we are very blessed with ours who I trust and respect greatly, and we've had many discussions about each of our dogs and our approach to their care (our red lines etc). Having that foundation of a relationship where you understand each other's approach to care is vital, and also saves a lot of time if you are ever in a traumatic situation as I know our vet knows pretty much exactly what I'm likely to want. Over the years, through various PTS scenarios, we've been in agreement over the timing and I've always felt comfortable with the investigation/treatment options leading up to that.

So this is a long winded way of saying it's not a black and white issue and please don't write off ALL tests/investigations - you may be unwittingly excluding some genuinely helpful options.

Veterinari · 27/05/2017 06:52

That sounds like a great approach Right
It's amazing the difference that acupuncture and hydrotherapy can make

Fireinthegrate · 27/05/2017 14:45

ChickenandSpinach. My 11 yrs old GSD is just the same. He doesn't appear to know where his feet are and often stands with them crossed. He scuffs his toes when he walks and crosses his feet when he walks too.
My vet said it is arthritis but neurodegenerative. I have sime metacam but this doesn't seem to make any difference at all.
He has Wainwrights dry dog food for older dogs and I also started him on a supplement, but again it made no difference.
I think we just have to listen to him and be guided by what he does and does not want to do.
Today he is very lethargic, but it's quite hot, he didn't want to go for a walk, even with 2 spangles jumping about, he really wasn't interested. So today I have walked him slowly about 100m up the lane and back, and he's taken himself back to bed.

Fireinthegrate · 27/05/2017 14:46

Should have said that my vet said it's NOT arthritis, but is neurodegenerative.

nooka · 27/05/2017 20:36

Our dog scuffed his feet too. I think he couldn't feel them properly so didn't really know where they were. Not that I'm suggesting a spinal cyst (we were told it was very rare) just that it does sound similar, as if the signals aren't getting from his feet to his brain properly.

We have a dog chiropractor in our town, I can really see where the alternative therapies could come into play for dogs. Lovely to hear about the new lease of life Rightpivotturn. Our dog had to have an MRI, CAT scan and blood tests, but I think just being away from home made him very stressed (he had to stay in the dog hospital for three days and was very upset without his humans there).

Veterinari · 28/05/2017 19:56

Fire it's quite possible your GSD has degenerative radiculomyelopathy - it's a common genetic condition in GSDs www.ufaw.org.uk/dogs/german-shepherd-degenerative-myelopathy

Sadly whilst it is degenerative it's unlikely to be painful Flowers But is much less common in other breeds

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