Be honest...Does anyone have a dog that never fully housetrained?

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I have posted previously about my dog (now 11 months) who was peeing at night, only at night, he doesnt have "accidents" ever during the day. For over a month now I have gone back to basics and have been getting up in the middle of the night to bring him out to pee. This is more or less working but obviously is not ideal. Last night I brought him out and he went to the toilet at 10.45, when I came down at 3 oclock he had already gone in the kitchen. He is not crated and I dont want to crate him if it is a case that he cant control it. I would hate for him to be in crate and really needing to go pee. All accidents are fully cleaned and double cleaned using bio- detergent.

My question is .....has anyone got an adult dog that has never fully toilet trained?? I am losing the will to live at the moment. Is there a chance that there will never be light at the end of the tunnel?

sorry big x-post there. hope you get more good nights' sleep!

what are you feeding lab that is 'picky'!!! dried?

Shriek OPs dog is a maltese / jack Russel mix, and on JWB. Is that what you were asking?

Op hope you find something that works, loads of ideas for your here. Would love to know if any of it works.

Thanks to everyone for all your help/suggestions. After being dry the night before last he peed during the night last night

I am just going to try everything and see what happens. I bought a spray in the pet shop today (12 euro) that is suppose to eliminate any remaining odour after cleaning so I have sprayed that on table legs,chairs, skirting boards etc. I should change my username to "Desperado"

Thanks again and wish me luck

There may be hope. Mine was the same till she was spayed and (bad owner) I put her dog bed in my room. She seems to sleep more knowing she's with someone and even lies in! No accident for about 5 months now. It was every night!!

Thanks Fiona he was neutered a few months ago. I thought that may be the turning point. He defo wont be making it to the bedroom. Although my husband is affectionate towards him and is kind, he is more tolerating him then besotted by him!!!

Last night was a dry night!! Yippeeeee.

did you say this dpup is 11 months old, and yet neutered 5 months ago? What vet/agency recommended this! Thats enough to cause behavioural problems feeling unsure of himself.

please anyone thinking of neutering don't bank on it ever making any changes at all, and sometimes (especially in male behaviour/fear aggression can exacerbate it). There are just no guarantees with neutering but there are huge hormonal changes that are necessary for proper growth/health. (caveat that many take on ddogs that arrive with these issues/neutered and nothing to be done about that).

Only a word of caution about taking the ddog upstairs in hopes the same miracle will work for you, in that you may end up with double-trouble, that he now wees upstairs too and won't sleep downstairs any more. Just be sure you are very happy/prepared for your ddog to stay up there even if it still pee's at night, and doesn't want to go back downstairs after the experiment.

sometimes you have to do whatever you can just to get the sleep you need. Are you on your own with this, or at least sharing the nights with a partner?

Have you tried to 'pen'?

sorry! not '5', a few ... months ago

yes, thanks cupcakes - is JWB James Welbelove, as i'm not familiar with the vast range of processed dried foods, so i couldn't comment other than the vast amount of additional liquid intake required to accommodate them, and that its better to feed the dry in the morning to allow the day for liquid balance to be resolved with a night wetter.

You may be working against the litter's upbringing in that the ddog was just never bothered as a dpup as it got used to [peeing and pooing in its area.

Sounds like it is 'cocking' , so i would also (after limiting its nighttime area) spraying with a deterent smell aswell - or painting the tea tree like i suggested before.

If the ddog is anxious, a large space at night may be too much for him so reducing his space will give him some reassurance.

I assumed James Wellbeloved. Think that's what most people would mean.

Fiona if you're a bad owner for letting yours in your bedroom, I must be pure evil with 2 Labradors on the bed...

OP - YAY for a second accident free night!! That's 2 out of 3, isn't it. Is that an improvement?

whats worked for you OP? What do you think is making the difference?

sorry Cupcakes just not familiar with dried food, and aren't there just SOO mmany of them out there so it was a guess for me.

Why is it 'bad' to let ddog on bed? who says so

Shriek He was neutered in August.....so he was 9 months old. That doesnt seem so unusual to me. This is keeping in line with what my vet's practice and Dog Trust recommended. I had researched alot online and felt this was the right age for him.

Cupcakes it was an improvement of late. When he was younger he would go up to maybe 5 nights without going but of late he had regressed alot. He was dry on Friday night but I let him out at 4 in morning for a pee. He peed on Saturday and Sunday night. I was away overnight on Saturday and he was anxious without me according to DH.

So tonight I am limiting his space and will take it from there.....

Cheers y'all....

its young. and because vets/dogs trust do it, doesn't mean its best sadly. dogs trust do have very good reason for doing this and so its in the best immediate interests of many of the dogs under the circumstances. to explain myself properly, i had been looking at the previous message that mentioned '5' and got a 'few' months mixed with '5'!!!! hence the startle !

I really hope this space limiting exercise will help - make sure dry food and plenty water given morning and definitely a lighter/wet food for 2nd meal. a little older and i would drop the 2nd meal but thats individual choice and down to ddog