Poppy update

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Some of you may remember Poppy, a spaniel cross husky, that was owned by a mumnetter earlier this year. The owner had adopted her through Facebook and was looking for advice (which she actually chose not to take).

Through a series of strange co-incidences (it's a small world) I've heard about Poppy more recently. It seems that things went from bad to worse with that owner, and it culminated with Poppy biting a man's hand so badly that he needed to go to A&E for stitches.

(The owner was at a garage and Poppy got out of the car and was loose. A man grabbed her to bring her under control and that's when Poppy bit him.)

Poppy was then booked in to be put down, as the owner said no rescue would take a dog that had bitten.

However Poppy was rescued by someone with a kennels and he managed to get Poppy there before the vet's appointment at 3pm.

Poppy is still there, but isn't getting much training I don't think. They are looking for a new home for Poppy but obviously aren't an experienced rescue. I'm so worried that Poppy will end up in yet another home (her fourth) which won't be able to meet her needs and help her adjust.

Any ideas on how we could help?

I just can't get Poppy out of my head, but know that we are not the right family to give her a new home.

I hate how these dogs just get passed from pillar to post :(

PS I can PM anyone who's interested the number of the kennels. It's down south.

Oh and you are being treated the way you deserve.

You were down right ugly on that thread and your colourful use of language you directed at those who were trying to help you proved how unpleasant you are.

You saw Poppy as some sort of accessory. If I remember correctly even after the thread offering advice you started another aimed at updating Poppy's progress like she was some sort of status symbol.

Had you spent the time looking for a suitable home for her instead of creating Poppy's progress threads then she would have not been in a situation where by she escaped from the car and bit a man.

You are suggesting I privately rehomed her?

Nope not going to happen, I contacted BLIZE rescue AND the dogs trust and I would have properly rehomed her through a rescue had she needed it, but I was homechecked with the whole family here and it was deemed unnecessary to rehome her.

You are just being ridiculously mean, I was proud of my dog yes, I wanted the very best for her and I wanted to share that, there is nothing shameful in that.

I think that perhaps you should have a little step back and ask yourself why you are suggesting private rehoming is the way forward for a dog like Poppy (or any dog)

Reputable rescues are the only way to go.

At no point did I suggest private rehoming you have clearly made that up in your own head.

There are many ways to rehome a dog and if you research it you can find one. I know of a dog trainer who just recently took a beautiful staffy in as the family who owned it were clearly not coping. That can be considered as a private rehome. However that was not what I suggested.

Tbh regardless of who came to your home and deemed it suitable it clearly wasn't working for the dog but it took her to bite someone for you to do something about it. I am just thankful it wasn't one of your children.

The home was fine for the dog, she was making leaps of improvement and things were going really well.

Her issues were far far deeper than that though, they really were. She'd obviously had some really nasty shit go on with her previous owners who had barely walked her (they admitted that) and that was the least of her worries.

You did suggest I 'spend the time finding her a new home' which suggested private rehoming to me. I did contact 2 rescues one of whom I am still in contact with regularly and who I support as much as I can.

So I DID contact rescues about rehoming her (if that is what you are suggesting) unfortunately they cannot take a dog so scared she bites people to the extent they need stitches so they only place she could go was the clearway kennels.

Things don't happen overnight, you cannot suddenly make a dog comfortable and aware and happy, these things take time and poppy was getting better and better with every day.

We did all we could, believe it or not, you have no insight into the situation, the people involved or what actually happened so really your judgement is ill-founded and unnecessary. It helps NO ONE.

I think you will find I agreed with you that there was NO gtim satisfaction. I posted on your original thread and to be honest took it steady when you wrre being laid into because you were utterly defensive about what you were advised and I could see you were taking your bat and ball home. Quite frankly I can't be arsed any more. You were advised to take things slower and be patient. You insisted you knew best and everyone else just wanted to get at you. We didn't. We just wanted things to work out for Poppys sake. You didn't want to give her chance to settle, you asked for advice, insulted us all, told us you knew best. And this is how it ended. Hey ho.

Wasn't the dog booked in to be put down? I would assume it was you who took that step.

Had you had the dog muzzled when out side of the home then this would have prevented her biting someone. You knew full well the dog was 'snappy' with your own family as that was the reason you got the behaviourist in.

I have as much insight as you gave on that thread and it was predicted then that the situation would end badly for Poppy but you refused to listen. You were stubborn and self righteous which has led you to this situation.

I feel that my judgement is completely founded given how you conducted yourself on that thread and if it goes some way to making you think before rehoming another dog who's history and temperament you do not know then I think it does help.

Op I lurked on the other threads about Poppy and yes it's very sad that you couldn't give Poppy the forever home you wanted to be able to give her. And I sympathize with you for that. But you didn't take the excellent advice offered and didn't let Poppy settle. As well as using outdated pack/dominance theory.

Your attitude is very unpleasant and your defensive angry remarks are derailing the thread.

In the kindest possible way, this thread needs to be brought back to the best outcome for Poppy and away from your feelings. Hopefully, an experienced husky owner will be able to offer some help.

OP - you knew best. It's seems you still do. Despite qualified behaviourists, vets and vastly experienced dog handlers advising you to give Poppy time and space and be patient, all in the name of trying to help you and Poppy, instead they were insulted and it seems still are.

I also noticed you didn't reply to the Facebook advice given by Sally Bradbury, pretty much one of the experts in her field, as it sided with what you were being told on here, therefore didn't fit your bill.

There's a thread on here from yesterday, where the posters young dog had snapped a couple of times. A lot of folk gave advice that she clearly was unsure about (but refrained from calling them c**ts), but it would appear she has taken it in the good spirit in which it was intended and reflected positively. Good luck to her.

I hope Poppy finds the experienced, patient home that she deserves.

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Fair point, who booked Poppy in to be pts?

Very true enorm

OP my apologises for derailing the thread. I get very angry and frustrated when dogs end up in situations which can be avoided.

I really hope somebody can give Poppy a good home as she deserves a forever home.
I have contacted a couple of experienced Husky owners I know and asked if they can help so I will pass on any info OP.

Yes, agree.

Is there a Husky Rescue Facebook page who can put the feelers out? Facebook can be helpful with this sort of thing.

needa, which thread was it on the advice page?

But that would only be relevant if my treatment of Poppy led to her attacking and it didn't. The treatment she received previously was the issue

I will continue to defend myself and my family against such lies and defamation.

The reason I didn't answer Sally Bradbury was because by that point we had a behaviourist onboard and too many cooks etc.

I am confused, Poppy is only 6 months old? How could she have been with someone for six months and then the op for a month? She is still a young puppy-I thought real agression didn't happen in dogs until rather later but I may be mistaken. Whatever has happened it seems terribly sad. My own puppy is two weeks older and pootling about next to me, horrible to think of her being passed from pillar to post. Hope someone with the right home will take on Poppy.

Your behaviourist did not use up to date methods. This contributed to Poppy's stress levels, as did being told no and not left to settle in.

don't I will no longer engage with you on this thread as it was started in the hope that somebody could help Poppy. I will no longer argue with you over it and will instead put my energy in to helping Poppy.

And for the record I never brought your family in to my judgement it was solely based on you also I believe what I am saying is truthful just because you think I am lying doesn't mean I am.

Out of interest, just out of interest, I am not attacking you - was the behaviourist APDT accredited?

Ages ago now Lil, but the usual Dog Training Advice and Support page. Sally posted, but wasn't answered, which is a shame as I know how many questions they try to answer but never mind.

huskiesinneed.com/contact.html this rescue is based in Hampshire. They might be able to take Poppy, should I direct them to this thread?

Sorry if that question had already an answer.

Facebook - Huskies in Need (my laptop having a fit and can't copy) but they foster their dogs, which is a positive start.

I would also direct to the original thread, as that provides a lot of background too.

I'll tweet them towards this thread and the other ones. I'm not on faceache.

Nor I twitter