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Greyhound, Whippet or Lurcher owner? Here's another pointy hounds cushion!

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EasterBunnyFuntStoleAllTheEggs · 25/04/2014 09:13

Pointy hounds include-
Greyhounds (Grunds)
Whippets (Whippys)
Lurchers
Italian Greyhounds (Iggys)
Salukis
Afghans
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Come The Day
Come the day I take that final bend,
Can I count on you to be my friend?
To see I’m treated just and fair,
It means so much to know you care.

For, what the future holds in store,
Now that I can race no more,
Should be addressed for every hound,
Who parts the punter from his pound.

Tell them I don’t ask for much,
A kindly word, a gentle touch,
Somewhere warm to lay my head,
A meal each day to keep me fed,
Not just life- but quality,
This is how it ought to be.

Do not see me swept away,
I long to live another day,
With peace of mind, tranquillity,
And those who care surrounding me,
So tell them all- you have that choice,
I beg of you to be my voice.

By Denise Dubarbier.

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mistlethrush · 26/06/2014 13:11

Oh - and a friend has a large bully lurcher and guinea pigs and he's not attempted to eat them yet, despite being over a year by the time she got him. I don't think she'll ever really trust him with them though.

WilliamShatner · 26/06/2014 13:24

It's quite sad when our puppy trots over to the guinea pig or the cat, his head held high, his tail wagging gaily as he thinks they will play with him and when he has a stone cold reception he looks so forlorn at the rejection!

When he first saw our big fluffy cat he wanted to snuggle into her and look for a nipple but we allowed her to sniff him and then bop him on the head and then we moved him away. When he is securely held, he is allowed to kiss with her, but she gives him a quick sniff followed by a filthy look and walks off. He knows at the moment not to get too close if he sees her. If loose he start off at a trot in her direction but then slow to a walk and stop a few feet away but cock his head to make himself look appealing to her! He's probably just trying to read her signs, but that's what it looks like!

However, that will change when he gets older and we won't be taking any chances with the two together.

I wasn't thinking of the stake out now as he is a puppy but more for when he is older and as a quick temporary measure to secure him whilst we being stuff in from the garden and the gate is open.

We bought a puppy kong but he is more interested in the cardboard backing it came with!

mistlethrush · 26/06/2014 13:29

Sounds as though he'll have a whale of a time at puppy classes - hope there are some good ones nearby!

If he grows up knowing the cat's boss, that should be fine - lots of pointy hounds are cat trainable and live safely with them.

WilliamShatner · 26/06/2014 14:34

I've contacted the local training classes.

They have a puppy only one on a Monday and mixed ages on a Wednesday starting in September.

Considering he is so young, he seems to be thriving and he's visibly grown since last Saturday.

mistlethrush · 26/06/2014 14:39

Puppy ones are great for early socialisation. I remember taking our rescued 10mo collie cross along to one of them and all the real puppies having a great time playing and ours being the only one trying to climb up onto our laps or sneak out of the door. Its amazing how badly it affects them not having that socialisation in their early days.

WilliamShatner · 26/06/2014 15:20

I can't wait. I believe that it's absolutely essential to go to the puppy classes and ensure that our dog is socialised.

My previous dogs were all great at getting along with other dogs and a pleasure to take our.

My ex mother in law used to have two Yorkshire terriers and they were a nightmare to take out as she had picked them up every time she saw another dog so they never got to sniff or say hello to other dogs.

mistlethrush · 26/06/2014 15:23

My parents look after a whippet for a friend sometimes - she rarely gets let off the lead with the owners (eats things) but my parents let her off on the rec for zoomies. Apparently she's very friendly and wants to play with other dogs but has decided ours is just too fast and as she's not as fast she won't run with her!

CastilianHhhhidalgo · 26/06/2014 15:35

If there's a ringcraft class near you I really can't recommend them enough for socialisation. At ours we get a huge range of breeds and ages of dog going, I always take our pups regardless of whether we have any plans for showing or not. It's brilliant for teaching them to be around dogs without always interacting directly with them.

moosemama · 26/06/2014 15:46

Just realised, I didn't say in my earlier post that Pip only starts creating before I get back for the morning school run - he's fine for the whole time during the afternoon one, yet I'm usually out a good ten minutes longer for that one. I'm sure there's a good reason, but I can't see it. Confused

William, just watch that the puppy class isn't one where they let all the pups off to play. All that teaches them is to behave like a hoolie with other pups and very often the more timid of the pups end up overwhelmed by the whole thing. Far better to go to an actual puppy training class where they learn to focus on you with distractions all around and get to meet each other on-lead under controlled conditions. What they really benefit from is interaction with calm, sensible, well socialised adult dogs who can teach them appropriate manners and communication skills.

Had a lovely walk over the fields with my two and ds1 this afternoon. Ended up being out a lot longer than we intended, but it was worth it. Smile

moosemama · 27/06/2014 14:06

Well, this morning I decided to leave the washing machine and tumble drier going in the kitchen, as I was suspicious that the morning school run yelling has been down to him hearing ds1 and I talking on our approach to the house and I thought they would block the sound of my return - especially as ds1 is back at school today anyway.

I was only out for 15 minutes, due to the torrential rain and he started yelling 7 minutes before I got back. Hmm

Sooo, I have spent the day regularly closing the kitchen door and leaving the dogs in there for random lengths of time. He managed 40 minutes first thing before starting to quietly whinge, but resettled and ended up being in there for an hour and ten minutes in all. Since then he's done 30 minutes and various combinations of anything from 2 minutes, 5 minutes 10 and 15 minutes randomly throughout the day, even with me going in and out of the front door with no problem at all.

It really makes no sense. Confused

mistlethrush · 27/06/2014 15:02

He's obviously got an inbuilt tracker on you... Our first lurcher had one and would get up to start waiting about 10 mins before my father got back from trips (and this was with no warning and well before the days of mobile communication). She also had the most awful SA if you left her in a car. Even if you only left her long enough to get a parking ticket from the machine. There would be full on whittering and wailing and yelping and heads would turn....

cinnamongreyhound · 27/06/2014 16:40

I wish I had a tiny bit of insight or advice moosemama, other than to say what a little bugger I'm not help!

moosemama · 27/06/2014 18:28

Lurcherboy does that. Always gets up and sits/lies near the window just as dh leaves his office, even though he takes an hour to get home. He even does it on the first day dh starts a new job and there's no way he could know where/when he is leaving, iyswim. He then stands up and looks out the window wagging his tail at the time dh would be getting off the train at the local station and stays there until he gets home ten minutes later. Smile

Have you ever read this book? The author is a friend of my Mum's. I love stories about uncanny bonds between people and their animals.

cinnamon I think you've just about hit the nail on the head there - he is a little bugger! Hmm Grin

Thing is, it's not as if he's howling, scratching at the door, losing control of his bodily functions or being destructive, he just whinges and it's such a high-pitched, loud, annoying noise. Hmm

I am planning to bore the pants off him repeatedly shutting him in the kitchen and going in and out for different lengths of time, hundreds of times a day over the next couple of weeks and see if there's any improvement. Then if the neighbours do go away I can try going out, perhaps to the local shop etc with the dcs during the holidays and see what he does then.

I did have one thought about the mornings. I realised that it's all of us leaving for the school run and as is the way with morning school runs, often we're rushing out of the door and I am probably giving off stress signals. Whereas for the afternoon run, there's only me here and I calmly and quietly get everything ready to go out a bit at a time, so it's not obvious, while the dogs are usually snoozing away. The whole thing is much calmer.

The other thing is, school runs probably do give him the heads up that I'm leaving, as that's when he gets his green feeder and kong and these days I'm having to form a barrier across the middle of the kitchen to stop Lurcherboy stealing Pip's food when he's finished with his buster cube and kong wobbler or treat ball, so there are lots of exit signs there.

When I shut the door during the day and at bedtime, I just say 'settle', shut the door and sit quietly for a few minutes. If he starts to whinge quietly I just say 'settle' again firmly, that usually stops him and he goes off to sleep. I need to experiment with going out without leaving the kongs etc, but can't do it while the neighbours are here - it's so frustrating. Lord knows I'd love to give up having to go through the rigmarole of stuffing 10 or more kongs a week with sardine and kibble mix - it's really not a nice job for a vegetarian.

I'm half thinking that the summer holidays is my chance to wean him off needing the kongs and green feeder for every school run and if I can get him to just settle whenever I shut the kitchen door that'll be the winning move.

Have a horrible feeling some of this is just 'teenager' attitude though, so it could be we will just have to keep on keeping on until he matures a bit.

LairyPoppins · 27/06/2014 20:38

Hello,

Posting for some advice really as I know you lovely people on here will know what to do.

We have 2 rescue greyhounds - one is 13 and the other 12. We have had the older boy since he was three, and the girl since she was 2.

Our gorgeous old boy is on his last legs. 2 years ago he had a tumour on his toe that we had to have removed, the vet told us it was probably cancer, and that we should be aware that he might deteriorate if the cancer grew anywhere else.

This past few months there has been a slow deterioration and the past week or so he has really gone downhill - he is lethargic, a bit off his food, weight is suddenly dropping off him and today he refused a walk for the first time ever.

We know the time has come to do the right thing by him. He is terrified of the vet's surgery (he poos on the floor when we go in and shakes like a leaf). We don't want that for him so will ask the vet to come out to us.

I have a couple of questions: does anyone know roughly how much it will cost? We don't know whether to bury him here or ask the vet to take him away.
Also, any idea how to handle it with our lovely greyhound girl? They have been together 11 years and adore each other. Should we let her see him after he has died so she knows what has happened?? I can't bear thinking about how awful it will be, especially for her,as she cannot understand...:(

moosemama · 27/06/2014 20:52

I am so sorry. Flowers

I can't help on cost, as each vet and every area is different.

You can ask for the vet to arrange a cremation and either have the ashes to returned to you or not. We do get them to do this for us and each of our dogs ashes have been scattered on their favourite beach. It can be expensive though, so worth asking in advance so that you don't have to think about it at the time, iyswim.

I would definitely let your girl see him after he's passed, as it really helps them to understand and while she will grieve, she won't be fretting, worrying about where he's gone and if he's coming back. We haven't managed to do this with any of ours yet, purely due to the individual circumstances, but my lovely vet assures me that in her experience, they do understand and it really helps with their grieving process.

Again, so sorry to hear such sad news. Wishing you and yours all the strength you need through this difficult time. x

LairyPoppins · 27/06/2014 21:02

Thank you moosemama

We have known it was coming, but it doesn't make it any easier. I have been looking back over old photos and he is looking so old now - he was so strong and healthy :(

I think our girl will need a lot of reassurance and cuddles - she had bad separation anxiety when she came to us and is a different dog now.

We also will need to talk to our twin boys (aged 4) about it. Do you think it is better to tell them in advance so they can say 'goodbye'? They adore him but I don't really want them here when the vet comes - gosh it is so hard. He is such an important part of the family and there will be a huge hole when he is gone. I am going to go and give him some cuddles.

WilliamShatner · 27/06/2014 21:52

Lairy, I don't believe in keeping death and dying a secret from children. It is better for them to know and say their goodbyes and learn from the grieving process.

Children are sometimes better equipped at rationalising when a person or pet is sick, frail and unable to enjoy their lives it is kindness to let them go to sleep.

Handled sensitively, children can experience the death of a loved one, be it pet or human, without being traumatised.

Your greyhounds have had a wonderful life with you and whilst it's heartbreaking for you, letting him pass peacefully is the kindest thing to do.

moosemama · 27/06/2014 22:02

We lost our old girl to osteosarcoma in spring last year. My dd was 4 at the time and we prepared her gently by explaining that Oldgirl was very poorly, in a lot of pain and very, very tired and when she was ready she would want to leave her body behind so that she was no longer in pain. We told her that, of course we would all be really sad and miss her terribly (still do actually, tears in my eyes typing this) but we had to think about the fact that she was very poorly and we didn't want her to be in lots of pain every day. She was very sad, understandably, but accepted it and just needed a extra cuddles and reassurance for a few days. Nursery was a welcome distraction for her, I think.

When it actually came to it she had an acute fracture through the tumour site and had to be pts all of a sudden while the dc were at school, without them knowing it was going to be that day. That was a bit of a shock for them, but they understood because of our previous conversations with them.

In my experience young children often handle things better than the adults around them. We lost our Soft Coated Wheaten Girl about 18 months before Oldgirl and my boys (dd was too young) both handled it well. They were obviously very sad, but accepting that it was the way things were and it was best for her.

We knew we were going to lose Oldgirl for a couple of weeks before we finally had to let her go - it doesn't make it any easier. Sad Flowers

LairyPoppins · 27/06/2014 22:25

Thank you both. Yes, we will need to tell the boys and let them grieve with us of course. He has been a perfect family dog.

cinnamongreyhound · 28/06/2014 21:10

We lost our girl last may and she went down hill very fast, my dh woke up my boys so they could say goodbye to her before we left for the vets and my eldest remembers it well. My youngest still tells people quite often that she died and we loved her. We had her cremated and have her in a box, it cost us £180 with the single cremation. So sorry to hear what you're going through its so tough, I still think of her every day and have a cry every now and then. I have no advice on your other dog as she was an only dog. So sorry :(

mistlethrush · 30/06/2014 09:01

We told DS (then 7) on the morning that the vet was coming and let him say goodbye before he went to school (we told school too). He still misses her - but mistlehound (who we got 2 weeks later - the delay being caused by the fact DS and I were off for a week with my parents and I didn't think it was fair on DH or new dog to get a dog and then leave them for a week to cope!) has been a good distraction - she doesn't replace mistledog, but has made her own special place in our hearts in her own right.

Lovethesea · 01/07/2014 10:11

Pointy hounds thread!

I think we would suit a small lurcher and am starting to scour local resuce sites for a good match. I'd really welcome your thoughts though, as I have not owned a dog before but grew up with two staffies and then saw a lot of my parents lurcher (biiiiiiig lurcher) who followed the staffies.

We have kids of 4 and 5. Two rescue cats. DH works full time. I am part time and based at home though go to meetings so one or two days a week I could be out for a day of work (meeting plus travel time).

We live in a village in Norfolk, want to get out walking more and we enjoy simple things like Thetford Forest, the beach and pottering.

I am thinking small lurcher as my parents boy was amazingly calm in the house, happy to be with you but did not need tons of attention while you worked, he was brilliant energy on walks but also coped fine with being left for a few hours with a treat and just snoozed happily.

I'd love a BIG dog but I think a smaller lurcher would fit on the sofa, our bed, in the car better and perhaps be less intimidating for the cats and the kids friends to adapt to.

Apart from the habit of disappearing at speed on squirrel missions I think hounds repond well to training? Like bounding along but also happy to walk for half an hour then be a rug in the lounge for a while?

Collective wisdom please! I am thinking we need one who has been fostered with cats so we are sure they can cope.

mistlethrush · 01/07/2014 10:16

Sounds an ideal match from what you're writing - mine does exactly what you want (apart from the cats bit!)

Lola is cat friendly in foster and looks lovely - just the sheep issue there but if you're not in a sheep area that wouldn't be a problem.

Or there are lots of puppies about at the moment - LL have 5 and GWRE have 17 I think! If you got a puppy the cats could train it whilst it was young enough to learn and you shouldn't have a problem...

Lovethesea · 01/07/2014 10:41

Lola looks lovely, unfortunately we do have a field of sheep in the area so not for us.

The puppies look lovely too but I am keener to get an older dog with some basic house training skills and I think an adult would be happier to be left sometimes whereas a puppy I presume would struggle with only the cats for company at times. I do not underestimate the work that puppies need either.

An adult would also be fully grown and I think Heavens puppies look like they might get BIG. Im thinking small lurcher works better in terms of ever getting to squeeze on my sofa again!

mistlethrush · 01/07/2014 11:22

OK, I would then contact LL and others like GWRE (and I'll find out if there's a Eastern lot too and let you know) and ask for a homecheck from them and let them know your requirements. I sent several my (epic) brief of what we were looking for and could offer - LL showed me just two of their dogs they had at the time - and the one we came away with (not their first thought of which we would take) is perfect for us.

(Quite understand about the sheep thing - we certainly couldn't have her here either, not that DH is allowing me to have a second mind you).

In terms of sofa space, mine is quite a large dog (long back, sturdy, not long legs compared to many) manages to squeeze up into just a 1/3 of a 3 seater sofa (only three seater for friends) - although when she has a chance she does manage to spread herself along the whole of it.

Scruples might be another to get in touch with as they also have lurchers.