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Professor Regan's Nursery BBC 2 9pm

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McDreamy · 30/04/2009 19:43

Looks interesting! Anyone going to watch it with me? I am all alone tonight.

In the third programme investigating the effectiveness of healthcare products, Professor Lesley Regan looks at the children's market. She begins by examining claims about the benefits of various foods, before testing whether classical music can improve intelligence. The world of educational toys is also explored, and the marketing campaign behind formula milk is put under the microscope

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KittyBigglesworth · 02/05/2009 03:21

Edam,

First you've told me that:

"unless you have your cereal dry, then of course you are getting protein"

Now you're saying:

"Well of course cereals aren't high-protein foods. They are grains, not meat."

A bit contradictory don't you think?

I'm making the point that cereals for breakfast on their own are merely ok. Better than nothing, purely because the added vitamins and sugar boost break the fast we've experience whilst sleeping. This was, to me at least, a dunce inspired discovery. Of course it's better than nothing at all. A couple of slices of white bread with sugar sprinkled over them, washed down with a cheap multivitamin would also be better than nothing. Why is she comparing Frosties against nothing at all? It's hardly a surprising result that calories help the brain to function.

If a child's going to have cereal, the slow release carbohydrate breakfasts with much lower sugar than Frosties are better.

A breakfast with some form of protein in it too is best of all. Children could be fed many types of protein for breakfast and edam, I'm sure you know that meat isn't the only source of protein.

I'm certainly not suggesting that children should have a traditional fry-up if you mean sausages, black pudding with fried white bread and eggs. You'd be giving a good start to developing atherosclerosis if you did that everyday!

The type of protein I'm talking about is a boiled/poached egg or two with some wholegrain toast.
Or indeed some lean meat or fish with some grilled tomato and mushrooms.
If the child, has no allergies, a nut butter on wholegrain toast can also add protein. Low fat cheese melted on wholegrain toast is another option without a load of sugar!

Getting some fruit and vegetables in there at breakfast might also be a novel idea rather than relying purely on the added vitamins and minerals in the cereal.
(I say purely because a good quality multivitamin with a little bit of iron is a good back up but not a substitute for fruit and veg)

I'm not saying that carbs are wrong but rather there should be a balance of protein and slow release carbs. I know that I can think more clearly and concentrate for longer when I eat this way for breakfast.

One more thing, whilst most grains contain very little protein which is the very point I'm making, there is one grain that is an exception and that is quinoa. Half a cup provides a child's protein needs for the day without the sugar, it's low in salt, contains iron, calcium and all 8 of the essential amino acids. It can made like a porridge.

EachPeachPearMum · 02/05/2009 03:49

Kitty- I am impressed by your analysis - I dont watch television, and do'nt need to see the programme now anyway!

However I thing edam meant they will get protein from the milk as almost everyone eats cereal with milk on.

are you a namechanger?

fifitot · 02/05/2009 14:28

No offence Kitty but I couldn't even finish reading your post. You are clearly knowledgeable about scientific matters in a way most of us aren't. If the BBC had have based a programme around some of what you are describing I might have switched over.

The programme never claimed to be a rigourous scientific meta-analyis review of data in relation to toys, food and formula. It gave a brief overview and tbh most of us probably knew much of what they came back with by way of conclusions. It was a reasonably light-hearted approach to it's subject made palatable for general consumption.

If I wanted a science programme I would have watched one.

BTW - don't think she was suggesting Frosties as any kind of optimum cereal. The message was 'breakfast is good any cereal is better than no breakfast'. Simplistic maybe but what's wrong with that?

fifitot · 02/05/2009 14:29

BTW Quinoa porrdige?! Yeah my 2 year old would eat that! I certainly wouldn't!

BigBellasBeerBelly · 02/05/2009 18:22

Erm Kitty she didn't actually recommend frosties. That has come from this thread.

TBH i think your view of the program has been coloured by the fact that you have really enjoyed getting steamed up about it, which is fair enough. But to say she recommended frosties above all other cereals and breakfasts, which she didn't, seems a bit odd.

Her point was that most children in this country have cereals for breakfast, and many parents worry if their child will only eat the more sugary ones (ie rice crispies rather than porridge), but in the scheme if things it's not too much to get worked up about, better something than nothing.

Obviously a look at what constitues the ideal breakfast would have had very different results, but that wasn't the question she was looking at.

KittyBigglesworth · 03/05/2009 04:09

Thank you EachPeachPearMum, I had to post on this as I think the prog, particularly the conclusion could leave parents with a confused message. I've probably said too much on this (husband keeps on reminding me that I should be working rather than posting on here ) And no, not a name changer!

I can see what Edam is saying about the protein in milk. Not much in what's added to a bowl of cereal. That and a yoghurt or some toast with melted low fat cheese & sliced tomato would be better, do the same or more for cogntion plus provide more calcium,protein, fibre than the cereal on its own.

BBBB, 'better something than nothing', hardly revolutionary for parents though is it? Who doesn't know that? Does she think the public are that dim? Had it been any old presenter fronting this, I wouldn't have expected more but she's a Prof. and some people will expect her findings to carry far more scientific gravitas than they do. It takes no more effort to feed a child something lower in sugar, higher in fibre, antioxidants etc. This simplistic experiment sought to grab soundbites and headlines.

fifitot, yes, the scientific side of me did expect a professor to conduct an experiment more rigorously using alternative types of breakfasts. She could have concluded by briefly drawing upon what the majority of studies have concluded in the past decade. I shouldn't have watched it but I fear that I will do so that we can snort at the dross information the nation's being fed. It was, as you say, simplistic. Lightheartedness? I didn't see much humour in it apart from the cartoon representation of her, flimsy and laughable, yes.

Can't help feeling that the BBC 'dumbed down' on this programme. Shame, they've had better researched ones in the past.

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