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OH MY GOD - SUPERNANNY NOW!!!!

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crunchie · 26/04/2005 21:14

The poor poor parents, Often it looks like the parents have totally caused the problem but here the mothr really thinks her little girl doesn't like her She won't even look at her at times

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jabberwocky · 27/04/2005 10:08

Good point, he doesn't scream it and, thankfully, is very good at pronouncing his S's. Perhaps I'll whiddle away my various free hours at thinking up a similar phrase to drop when I'm at her house next time

mummylonglegs · 27/04/2005 10:16

I think Jo is pretty good actually, very sympathetic and realistic and not at all patronising. If she wasn't 'out' of the situation she wouldn't be able to help. It's really easy to get caught up in our kids dramas. If I'm watching dp do something with dd and she's being a bit difficult it's really easy for me to see where he's going wrong, but if it were me with her I'd probably be caught up in it and unable to distance myself enough to think about my own reactions.

Having said that I think like a lot of people here that those kids in particular (who were also described in the programme as being 'angelic' at school) must be behaving like that with their parents for a reason and a lot of all young kids behaviour with parents is mimicry. What bugs me about this programme is that we never get any insight into how this kind of life style started. Or maybe I want to know that so I know what to avoid doing in the first place!

tatt · 27/04/2005 10:26

the father did take the girls clothes in the car when he took her to school - but she still wouldn't put them on when he got there so he took the boy into school. It was then implied that he took her back home. You can't assume the children get like that just because of the parents. They came across to me as too caring. They couldn't bear to back away and leave their children when they were upset. When the little girl cried for his father and supernanny told him to leave her to mummy he said it was tearing him apart to just sit there - and he looked it.

Common feature of all the programmes with young children like this seems to be that the parents don't work together.

My daughter doesn't say she loves me either Always been a daddy's girl because he spoils her.

jabberwocky · 27/04/2005 10:26

Good point MML. You always hear the parents (especially mom) saying "I just don't know how this happened!" so I think a lot of times there's just major denial on the part of the parents that they contributed to the situation. A good documentary would be to put a camara in several houses from day one with baby and go back 2 or 3 years later to see what's happened.

Pamina3 · 27/04/2005 10:27

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Tinker · 27/04/2005 10:27

YES!

Fimbo · 27/04/2005 10:53

I got the impression (please correct me if you disagree) that the parents didn't take the children out very much to parks, soft play centre etc. It seemed to open up a whole new world for them when they did. Perhaps as someone else said its due to the fact they were slightly older parents. It looked as well that the father may swear more than was portrayed, which could be where the children got it from. My dd is nearly 7 and although she has heard the "f" word outside home she has certainly never used it at home and would not be able to put it into context.

Hermione1 · 27/04/2005 10:56

I felt very sorry for all of them, they'd obviously got themselves into a pickle and couldn't see the wood for the trees. Some things that are simple just don't enter your heads when you're in a situation like that. Yes the dad did wrong by shutting the kids in teh bedroom when they should have gone to cool down area, but at least he didn't beat the crap out of them, and loose his temper completely. At least supernanny has helped them now and they will be able to live a happy life. I am sure most parents have been at their wits end and don't know what to do.

clary · 27/04/2005 11:14

Hatsoff that?s a very good post. I hope that I am overall a good mum, but when I am getting frustrated with how the children are behaving (like dd yesterday when she refused to get dressed, get upstairs to do her teeth etc) I do shout and get angry and I?m sure we could all be portrayed as less good parents with some careful editing.
Have to say that if my 4yo swore at me ... well i don?t know what I would do as I cannot imagine it happening. I haven?t seen the show yet (dh watched the footie) but will watch tonight. But yes I agree with those who say a swearign 4yo has learned the words from someon

Hermione1 · 27/04/2005 11:16

yeah i understand the swearing bit, but perhaps if they just walked off, they would have stopped, took no notice of them swearing they wouldn't do it anymore. They do it to get a rise out of you.

throckenholt · 27/04/2005 11:29

I was amazed to see the kids kicking and thumping their parents and the parents just taking it - not even walking away - let alone telling them off for it.

nailpolish · 27/04/2005 13:13

i thought it was interesting that jo the nanny spent a lot of effort encouraging the parents to have fun with the twins. she clearly thought this just wasnt happening in the household. and today for the 1st time i have used our porch-bit (not as big as the one on the telly but just as good) as a calm down area and it works. i have made sure though that there arent a million things to throw, i thought leaving coats and shoes and junk in the area was a bad idea, i think having nothing at all to do in this area is more effective

nailpolish · 27/04/2005 13:14

i too hate having people standing over me like the dad last night did a real antagonist - he should get down to their level - it totally works.

FLUM · 27/04/2005 13:16

And dragging them round a supermarket. AS a family outing!! What a weird outing.

Supermarkets, spawn of the devil anyway

nailpolish · 27/04/2005 13:21

oh god i know, flum. i avoid supermarkets and children combinations like the plague.

someone should tell them about tesco.com for goodness sake.

also, i noticed that when mum came in from work, the children ignored her. my dd does that to her daddy when he comes in, its difficult, but i try and make sure we are all sitting having a cup of tea/juice as soon as he comes in and we all have a chat about our day. when there are a million things going on when the mum comes in, like there was on the programme, the twins are maybe confused/tired/fedup and having too much to think about so they lash out at her, or ignore her

Fimbo · 27/04/2005 13:23

I liked the idea of the magnetic boards for the kids whilst doing the shopping, but the fruit/veg aisles in my local Tesco are not very wide and always heaving, my dd would end up squashed against the trollies. Would work in my local Waitrose tho'

Fimbo · 27/04/2005 13:25

I don't think my dh would be happy for me to ring him to come home because I couldn't get dd/ds into the car!!

nailpolish · 27/04/2005 13:26

i would spend the whole time looking for dd's cos i am terrified they just vanish one day. its so easy for them to lose you/you lose them.

luckily my dd's are little enough to still sit in the seats of the trolley, and i get dd1 to memorise the list. we repeat it again and again, and i make mistakes on purpose and she thinks its funny. plus i usually add a treat for her on the end.

but as i say i only take them if im only getting 3 or 4 things, not the entire weeks shop. thats asking for trouble with me and them!

Caligula · 27/04/2005 13:59

Couldn't believe they thought it was a good idea to take the kids to a supermarket just straight after school, when the kids are tired and getting hungry. Asking for trouble.

I think a lot of it was to do with having spent years and years trying to conceive and having given up and then just getting this very unexpected gift. An aunt of mine had 8 miscarriages and then adopted a DS, and then had a DD 10 months later, having given up on ever having a biological child. Both children were the most spoilt, ghastly control freaks ever and it was just because their parents were so grateful to have them that they couldn't bear to exert any discipline over them!

Easy · 27/04/2005 14:18

I only saw first half of this, cos I was getting frustrated with the parents.

They were older (like me), but couldn't seem to relate to the children at all. I always say "think how you felt when you were a child"

I could't believe that mum called dad back from work cos she couldn't get daughter into the car, WTF!!!

They seemed to have no control over the kids at all, and hence the kids have no respect for them.

Did they seem any more clued up by the end of the programme?

nailpolish · 27/04/2005 20:15

no easy they didnt. i agree, they seemed unprepared for the children, even though they are 4! it is a shame, but i do blame them.

i also thought their house was unprepared, a very adult house.

does anyone else think its strange they had a bolt on the outside of the bedroom doors? i would be terrified if there was a fire

Easy · 28/04/2005 10:18

We put bolts on the big cupboard where the vac lives, and on the door to the office when ds was about 2, to stop him damaging the computers and hurting himself with the Dyson. Perhaps their 2 had a habit of going in and emptying drawers or something.

We don't use the bolts any more, but haven't got around to taking them off yet.

Fimbo · 28/04/2005 10:37

The children's bedroom didn't look very kiddie like iykwim

Easy · 28/04/2005 10:43

They just didn't seem to understand children IYSWIM.

And why did they put themselves thru the supermarket business? Generally DH or I go to the supermarket alone, rather than treat it as a family outing.
If I do have to go when ds is with me, then he gets the job of finding some of the items we need, and a promise of sweets or a comic at the end if he has been good.

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