Big Brother ITV2 - Thread 4

[TellingBone]

Carry on Alarming

Yep, I am NOT voting for Twinks to leave as I want to annoy Sissy and Ada. Plus, Twinks has grown on me, and I actually think she's quite sweet now! I didn't see that coming! When she first came in, I couldn't stand her! 😆

Not voting for Cat either, because she deserves a chance to stay, and she is a sweet young woman.

Harry is really nice and gentle and he has grown on me, so I'm not voting for him.

So that leaves Sam. I don't really want him out, but I want the other 3 out less IYSWIM.

So I will be voting to evict Sam.

I wish Omar had been up though! I would have voted for him for sure. Get him away from Rhianna. And she needs to get away from him! I am very annoyed that BB hasn't intervened and called Omar out on his behaviour.

.

I think they were anonymous but the HMs know by now that their noms could potentially be watched. Which is exactly why Frankie didn’t nominate Rochelle. I’m sure he’s nominated her before.

I didn’t but Twitter is up in arms about it.

Next weekend is Halloween and they always do a few evictions that night, including a back door one - remember Kerry got that a few years ago? So it’ll possibly work out that Omar gets the back door and is saved from the crowd. Which is really annoying in a way.

Was it? Who told you that?

MNHQ don’t remove posts because they are reported, they remove them if after receiving a report and reviewing the post they deem it against talk guidelines. That is why your post was removed.

Im not surprised you keep coming back but I won’t lay down on the subject of abuse from anyone.

The ITV welfare team should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves. Let’s not pretend because the channel has done nothing the behaviour is ok. Remember MAFS?

Lots of people (like Rhianna) don't recognise Omar's behaviour as abuse. That is why it's so dangerous. The women look at themselves, blame themselves and shrink themselves.

This is why Rhi didn't tell him to fuck off. She is blaming herself for his behaviour. It is abusive and it is awful and if anyone watching is living in a situation like that, I hope that they find relief and courage at realising it's not them.

If you minimise controlling behaviours, you are just enabling them.

I'm disappointed that they didn't show Sam telling Philip that the hierarchy theory was his. I wonder why they didn't show that but instead just showed Philip 'apologising' to Twinks.

I'm also really surprised at Yas describing Philip as lovely and fun. We haven't seen any of that. So now I'm wondering what's going on and are we only seeing people as one dimensional caricatures? 😕

I have a theory regarding nominations. They all have to think who they would have a better chance against if they went up. So Yas thinks that Rochelle and Philip are popular, she knows from last week that she is popular so all she has to do is pick people who she thinks are less popular with the voting public. I really do think it's that simple.

The four the Philip chose are the four that are up so everyone else might as well not have nominated at all.

@dylanke and @WallaceinAnderland I agree so much with your posts. It's outrageous that BB haven't addressed Omar's behaviour, and poor Rhianna can't see it as abuse because many women don't!

It's insidious and it creeps up on you, and you often don't see it when it's happening. Some people look at a woman who is with an abusive man and say 'why doesn't she leave?' And the reason (often) is that she isn't seeing it as abuse. She's just seeing a man who is a bit grumpy/miserable/moany, and who has a go at her, often for trivial things, and she does end up thinking it's her own fault, and she starts to adapt to appeasing him and not annoying him, and thinks it's her fault he is angry or moody.

He will tell her 'look what you made me do, it's YOUR FAULT.' And she will believe it. It is scary and chilling to watch and I - like many other women - am upset by it. My DH is seeing it too! He is saying 'fucking hell, get that arsehole out, away from that girl!' My brother says similar. So 2 middle aged men are seeing it too, not just women. Why are BB allowing this to continue?

I am SO disappointed in BB that Omar is still in the house.

I am SO disappointed in Yasmin sticking with Rochelle after that vile behaviour from her re Yasmin's weight and eating habits.
She certainly knows which side her bread is buttered on.

I wonder how Johanne and Twinks would have got on!

@StacyFromCroydon They would have clashed because of the whole Christians versus witches. I don't think either would have been able to tolerate the other.

Twinks is not actually a very tolerant or inclusive person. She speaks at people, as does Joanne, she talks over people, as does Joanne and she firmly believes she is right, as does Joanne. I also think that Twinks is just as cliquey and if she were in the top of the hierarchy she would have been lording it over the others.

Giving up the extra time was not selfless, it was self preservation.

I’ve just read that Ofcom received over 7.000 complaints about Monday’s episode.

They confirmed to Radio Times that the complaints related to Omar’s behaviour towards Rhianna.

On a happy note, Rob now knows about Lynx's feet stuff and has adjusted his song accordingly 😂

I think last nights episode shows Omar putting on an innocent face with the others, while whispering in Rhianna’s ear he was unhappy with her telling people about him upsetting her.
Typical abuser!
While insisting he’d spoken to no one, but we saw him talking badly about her to Lynx.
So next time she will think twice about telling anyone about his behaviour and he will have more control of her.
I can’t stand the revolting creature and a he’s a classic manipulator and abuser. 🤮

Perhaps when Rhianna talks to her friend/family they will tell her to run as fast and as far away form Omar. Perhaps Omar’s friends/family will tell him how nasty he is being

Omar's friends will probably slap him on the back and congratulate him for 'putting her in her place'.

Very uncomfortable viewing over the past two nights. My temper just couldn’t deal with him, I’d have to tell him to fuck off every time he approached me if he’d spoken to me like that.

The sheer number of complaints and the entering of WA into the arena shows BB to be in the wrong. They have called HMs into the diary room for formal warnings of their behaviour if aggressive or threatening or could be construed as bullying but there has been no publicly broadcast rebuke of Omar - despite public outrage and the fact that coercive control is a crime regardless of whether the victim recognises it. It’s literally filmed and streamed for us all to see.

Forget for one moment that Omar has behaved abusively and my sympathies are with rhianna who will need support. But omar will also need support to understand how wrong he is. He needs to leave by the back door. Otherwise he will conclude coercive control is acceptable or expected.

About Harry in the sun from Reddit.

I don't think Harry should stay. Sam has been much more involved in house politics and has at least attempted to overthrow the monarchy in there.

I'm new here, so please forgive me if this has been asked and answered before, but can someone explain to me why so many people describe the house factions as a "hierarchy"? To me it just seems like warring tribes with one of them currently doing better than the other; but which of them does best comes down to the viewing public, not the housemates.

Rochelle and Philip are seen as the king and queen of the house. Their chums are the princes and princesses. The others are plebs. The floaters are clearly favouring their majesties at the moment. Their plan is to oust all the plebs before the final.

“but which of them does best comes down to the viewing public, not the housemates.”

Unfortunately, simply not true because the hierarchy gets to pick off the other HMs one by one. They are larger in number and are quite blatant in their ‘coded’ nomination-speak. I’m surprised (but not surprised) how BB are letting them get away with it. It’s a joke. Not a funny one, alas.

Yup. I'm sure one of them (Rochelle?) said last night something about 'the plan's working'.

Bugger off Yas.