The investigation of Lucy Letby on Netflix

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Anyone watched it yet? It’s a really excellent documentary with loads of footage of her police interviews.

You see the police asking her questions about those ‘confession’ notes.

I won’t put spoilers in the OP but I’d love to hear what others made of her responses.

Mid way through I thought she’s 💯 guilty but by the end I’m really not sure. A lot points to her being innocent.

I feel for the parents of those babies so much, the uncertainty must be horrendous 😞

Apparently two high court judges and 2 juries thought there was

Except if you wanted comfort because of those feelings and your cat brings you comfort. You might not understand it but it really, really isn’t that strange considering how close people can be to their pets.

She was found guilty in a court of law. This must be purgatory for the parents whose babies died.

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Hitler loved dogs…

They did indeed but that’s the thing - since then, there has been a lot of controversy over the medical findings, which was the most concrete evidence they had to convict her. Everything else could be explained either way.

As was every other person that has suffered a miscarriage of justice. Verdicts are given by a group of average people. They are not infallible by any stretch.

Thank you, yes, everyone’s different and behaves differently in different situations, just like we all interpret things differently. I imagine myself going absolutely mad protesting my innocence to the police in her shoes but that’s me and maybe if it happened I’d be completely different to what I imagine.

I don't think the cats can seriously prove anything either way. Cat people love their cats. A single cuddle is hardly excessive. This is just madness.

I don’t understand why these documentaries are even made. How awful for the families to have it in their faces and people speculating about the case. I definitely won’t be watching it out of respect for the babies who were murdered.

Quite!

One of the specialists interviewed on another documentary explained this. Their expert opinion was that there was no poisoning. They did explain it in great detail but it's been a while since I watched it, I can't remember the exact details.

To me the most damning evidence was that before the unit was downgraded to less specialised care, when LL was moved from nights to days, there were no crashes/deaths during the night shifts but they then started during the day.

I must admit, if I thought she was guilty initially, the past documentaries have cast doubt on that now. I haven't watched the latest one yet. It seemed as if they had decided she was guilty and made the evidence fit. They excluded so many things, including expert opinions, that might have helped her case. They seemed to want to prove guilt, not innocence.

That narrative leaves out collapses and deaths that Lucy Letby wasn't charged with, @Moonlightdust . They were taken off the list of suspicious incidents when it was found she hadn't been on shift. This article has some of the background but there is more of helpful.

https://unherd.com/2025/02/why-the-letby-case-isnt-closed/

The scapegoat theory (in fact any 'innocent' theory) is so ludicrous when you really look at it. How can anyone possibly think that a group of unrelated doctors all got together and decided to cover up for the failings of the NHS and/or each other and accuse a random nurse of murdering tiny babies? And get a bunch of nurses to corroborate their stories throughout legal proceedings.

And THEN that random nurse that they randomly accused just so happened to be linked in multiple ways to the insulin poisoning cases that none of them knew about at the time.

And as luck would have it, that random nurse that they decided to accuse had confidential handover sheets relating to babies (including some of the ones she killed) in a box labelled 'keep' at her home, having moved house with them twice.

And that random, not-at-all linked nurse also had markings in her diary for days the babies were killed.

And notes with 'I'm evil I did this' and 'I killed them on purpose' in her possession.

And a letter she'd written to some of the victims on their birthday after their death.

And who had randomly happened to search Facebook for the parents of the victims on multiple occasions including on Christmas Day.

And who was reported by both parents and colleagues to have behaved inappropriately around baby deaths, such as texting news in a ghoulish way, seeming excited and happy about deaths and even saying to a grieving parent that they'd 'said their goodbyes' and trying to make them pass over their still-living child to her.

And much more.

Like really? What a randomly good choice of 'scapegoat' they made...

I've just read that a world leading expert on confessions has given up his job at the national crime agency to support Letby around the notes that she has made which he states proves nothing. He had to give up a job he loved which I presume is paid well to avoid a conflict of interest to do what he thinks is right. I think that speak volumes around the notes which so many people seem to think prove her guilt

Because it’s odd - that’s why we’re talking about it

I've never come across anyone who argues that people got together and made a plan to scapegoat her, consciously. You are looking at a combination of defensiveness, groupthink,and confirmation bias.

Ah see I don’t take the notes to prove anything - they could be very therapeutic and helped her to get her feelings out - apart from “i did this on purpose”

I still agree with trial outcome

Was it odd for her to hug her cats any time in the subsequent four years, or just at the moment televised?
Do you think this moment should have been shown at the trial as evidence against her?

Or he could be getting on the bandwagon thinking it may benefit him in some way - all thee so called “experts”

the notes alone are not going to do anything in terms of a review - without then there is still a lot of evidence

No but we can comment on what we believe it means or what our guts say about it - I think it’s odd - it’s hardly an everyday thing to be arrested regarding killing babies - as you are trying to make out - it was a normal thing for her 4 years in

Absolutely!