MAFS #11 NO SPOILERS. It's groundhog day on the merry-go-round. 5 weeks in and 0 progress or results. Nobody is leaving, other than always seething. We really need to see progress, but instead we are seeing same old arguments.

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Sorry, this is so boring that there's 0 thread title inspiration. We just keep on being blindsighted and mugged off and nobody has our backs.

Initially I found Ash a bit caveman -ish but by this point it’s clear he can do nothing right and Grace is sucking the life out of him. I think he’s sometimes clumsy with his words and possibly a bit sexist - but it seems nobody could ever live up to grace’s standards. She seizes on and over analyses every bloody thing.

April is doing my head in. I mean I feel for her in that she’s getting nothing from HotDogg but she’s shamelessly flirting with Steven despite reassuring Nelly on the couch and her ‘not sure what I’m putting in my mouth’ seemed like a calculated innuendo and lo and behold both Steven and ash picked up on it. Then she was all ‘oh stopppp it you two hahaha’. She knows exactly what she’s doing

Abi is sweet but honestly I would sleep with one eye open next to Jon - there’s something slightly terrifying about his constant earnest expression

A better episode tonight. Grace and Ash were another couple unsuited from the off, surely the final nail in the coffin was her description of ‘pursuing intercourse’ and his as ‘flirting’. I’m really not sure what to make of John and Abi, they both seem to have a permanent smile and overly polite interaction with everyone, is this genuine!? It seems fake but maybe I’m just cynical.

John would definitely watch you while you sleep, which would be scary to wake up to.

Dp doesn't, but the cat often does, and being eyeballed on first waking is not good.

I'm fairly sure one powers down while the other keeps watch

Ratboy is just fake, he was nice on honeymoon too. The obvious disrespect to Nelly is ridiculous. Being told off on the couch for no affection but hugging & kissing Ash and Grace when they sat back down. Calling Nelly a boring fu©️ker, for being tired, whilst having her cook every night and giving her no conversation to work with. Or thank you breakfast!!

He has been so keen to rub it in her face with the pictures on the fridge, cooking for April, laughing like a schoolboy at the innuendo...showing off in front of Ash and as you say the hugging.

Nelly and Grace would be burnt at the stake a while back because they don't get the "system" and want more, yet these guys show they can do more, if they haven't had sex from the person asking for it yet.

Or maybe after hanging out with Abi’s mum. She might burst his bubble.

All dandelions and roses!

Ok, I am now back on the no go with Grace, yes, she is hard work. I am back feeling sorry for Ash.

FirstCuppa

I think Nelly was looking at Bailey and thinking "was this the only unicorn in this series?"

I've felt all along Bailey was a bit of a treasure and could have been matched with almost anyone and made a success of it.

Investment banker?

I quite like Reiss. I warmed to him when he was on with Lucinda light. He was funny and didn’t seem to care about looking daft.

I think they should have given Grace Keye or Davide for the swap. Both are great and would have made her laugh. But she got Reiss..

Could you imagine Grace paired with Leo! Watching paint dry would be more entertaining!

Yes she did but it was very forced

100%, think about it until you agree with me. And if you don’t agree with me, you haven’t thought about it enough. She’s an absolute nightmare, run Ash run.

Nooo, she’d have found something offensive about it. They’d all have been put on time out on the patio to reflect on it.

April is definitely one of those women who would describe herself as getting on better with guys than women . ‘A man’s woman’. I reckon JR is too.

I’m completely over Grace. I don’t think even she knows what she’s on about now.

I think couples swap has probably entrenched in Leah that Leigh is not the right person for her. Which may be a good thing.

for real?

I have gone back and forth on Grace and Ash. I feel now very much that they are not right for each other at all and Ash should run, run, run, and not look back.

I like John, he is nice.

Keye, I hope he gets a TV career from his as he is just lovely.

Was Abi told to invite Steven and April, I wonder! Seems a bit too staged!!

I like April, she’s just looking for fun really but she doesn’t have any loyalties to her fellow women. She’s a good time girl and men like that energy and there aren’t other women there like her (no fillers, naturally attractive). None of the men are well suited to her really so I hope she doesn’t go for Ash or Steven. She’s might get drunk and shag one of them though.

Steven’s horrible - he knew what effect that photo would have on Nelly.

Grace needs a nice beardy from Hackney. Ash is way too provincial.

Oh Steven, no, don't tell her to shut up. I know Nelly is quite annoying but being told to shut up would be very upsetting.

Sadly, I think Nelly has provoked an argument over something silly, a few photos. Hopefully they will both leave now!

Sadly, Grace is (as someone else said) blinkered.