Dept Q SPOILERS Thread

[xsquared]

This thread is for those who have already seen Dept Q in its entirety and want to discuss the plot, as I know that the other thread is still getting new viewers.

OK, now that I've seen it all, we're still non
the wiser about who shot Mork, Hardy and Anderson.

I am loving Akram and want to know what he did in Syria!

I just want to take Akram home to mind him and Carl home to give him a good bath and a few proper meals.

Really hope we don’t have to wait 18 months-2 years for a second series!!

Thanks for the new spoilers thread @xsquared 😍

Assume we are only having spoilers from the TV series - I know some posters have read all the books so spoilers from the books would be bad: such as shooter identity!

I know on the other thread @reallybadidea posited the idea that Burns is the shooter, based on the eyes, but there’s NO WAY he would do his own dirty work IMO

Thanks @xsquared

Im disappointed Merritt did not recognise Lyle when he was pretending to be Sam Haig.

I noticed his black/damaged eye when they first met in the cemetery and again at the hotel.
Lyle also had his damaged eye in the flashback when he went round to Merritt’s house, to tell his older brother he needed to get home.

She must been aware of the Lyle’s eye; it’s not a common disability and with such significant events happening with these characters surely you would not forget what they looked like or what had happened to them.

This made the twist at the end not so much of a reveal for me.

'Im disappointed Merritt did not recognise Lyle when he was pretending to be Sam Haig.'

Yes I didn't get this. Hadn't the real Sam Haig attended all the trial sessions, why didn't she see he was a different person?

Also, why didn't Morck recognise Merritt in the elevator scene in the last bit of the last episode?

What happened to all the streaks of blood at the top of the rock climbing bit where he was bludgeoned before being thrown off, you'd think someone would've seen it.

Akram for president! He is SO good.

I hated the weird stilted hammy fake sounding dialogue with the housemate though.

Also my suspension of disbelief was unsuspended ALOT.
the blood streaks on the cliff was one point (good shout put) but also if they were so poor what are they doing just wasting all that expensive commercial equipment- just sell the hyperbaric chamber and move out of the crow caravan!!!!

The airhotess ex was also just a weird addition to proceedings

Also, why didn't Morck recognise Merrit in the elevator scene in the last bit of the last episode?

Mork recognised Merrit in the elevator but I don't think Merrit recognised Mork. She was in a state of delirium after all when he rescued her.

So much I didn’t get, which you’ve all asked about already!

I probably fell asleep last night thinking Mork would never have got together with the flight attendant woman. They’d have been completely incompatible.

In a story full of weird creepy types, it’s a shame Morck’s lodger was also a weird creepy type - even if on the side of good.

Also a shame that Merritt was painted as so scratchy and unpleasant pre-abduction. Almost as if the narrative was telling us she deserved what befell her. Please tell me that isn’t what’s conveyed in the books?

(Although she did seem to be asking Harry to steal from her house.)

I’m glad they cleared up the Harry question though. I spent the whole series wondering why such an apparently nice young man would suddenly decide to bludgeon someone.

Merritt not recognising Lyle from her childhood was a weakness. I tried to move past it, but it did make it difficult to fully comprehend, or at least embrace the plot.

The poor policeman son on Mhor, being called out to the murder scene of his own father …

I thought Morck did recognise her at the lift doors, but she - either didn’t recognise him immediately, or lost her nerve … It was hard to tell.

Also a shame that Merritt was painted as so scratchy and unpleasant pre-abduction. Almost as if the narrative was telling us she deserved what befell her.
I dont agree with this. The victim doesn't have to be a 'perfect' person. She'd had a difficult life and that was how she was but that doesn't mean she deserved what happened.

I thought Lyle’s eye got damaged BY Sam Haig when they were both in juvenile detention, which was after Harry died. Lyle was following Sam around because he looked a bit like Harry and he was delusional - that’s what made Sam beat him up. It’s possible Merritt didn’t ever see him again if she’d already left the island by the time he was released.

But why wouldn't he have said hello? Just seemed bit weird, I know he isn't a sociable sort but you'd think for her sake he'd have made himself known as she had come in to thank them, not like it was the check out at Tesco a situation which may have caused her distress if unprepared.

Also, how many of us were screaming 'call for back up!' When they found the dead police officer. But no off they crept into the darkness without a tazer between them.
I did like it just think the missing pc may have caused more alarm, don't their cars have trackers on them?

Because the real Sam was so secretive and kept his identity hidden due to his work?
I knew Akram would save the day!
I can see why she didn’t recognise Lyle due to the eye, happened in detention and she didn’t keep in touch with anyone on the island. And he had grown up quite a lot since then. And when people tell you they are called Sam Haig, give a plausible back story (and look a lot like the real Sam, you wouldn’t expect him to be your ex’s psycho little brother).
I would like to own either Morck’s house (with him in residence, I feel with the love of an older woman he could change. 🤣) or the Therapists gaff.
Anyway-bring it one!

'Because the real Sam was so secretive and kept his identity hidden due to his work?'
I thought they said he was in court every day so she'd have seen him . He was killed 2 days before Merritt was abducted so how did Lyle manage the hotel meets with Merriit after stealing his identity in 2 days? I'm not questioning the story I just obviously missed crucial bits that explained it.

From my understanding, Lyle stole the real Sam Haig’s identity before he murdered him; he only killed him once he knew Merritt was returning to Mhor. The real Sam Haig never attended the trial, he was working on his Godhaven story and so Merritt never met him.

having finished all the episodes now, I really enjoyed Akram and Rose’s characters. The only thing I could have done without is the whole therapist story line, I think it’s very unethical and also makes Morck look like a massive creep.

The only thing I could have done without is the whole therapist story line, I think it’s very unethical and also makes Morck look like a massive creep.

I agree. Shoehorning a "will they, won't they" romance is unnecessary as well.

Yes I thought that too. No therapist would ever behave like that. Or shouldn’t.

Yes!
She can say "Cheerio!" to her practitioners licence

So the policeman from mhor knew that Lyle and his mum had killed or thought they had killed M four years ago?? Why didn’t he tell anyone? How did he find out? That part really confused me.

regarding the climber’s death I also thought that the coroner should have noticed that there were no traces of the wall on his hands/fingers/nails.

surely if he had been climbing, there would be lots of wall residue on his hands.

Yes who knew if planning on murdering someone just bludgeon them to death then chuck over a rocky precipice, no one will be any the wiser. No investigation into the starting point with all that incriminating blood, no scrapes or signs on hands of trying to stop the fall.
That said it was good just plot holes spoil it a bit.

What was the actual point of Lyle becoming Sam Haig anyway? Merritt went back to Mhor off her own back so he didn’t need to!

Also doesn’t make sense that Moira has said that Morck isn’t allowed to investigate his own shooting but is going to give the case to Hardy, despite it being his own shooting also.

Absolutely loved it and good to see Goode in a non Downetonesque role, he was fab. However top 3 potholes for me...

1. She didn't recognise Lyle despite shagging him but brother did after seeing him briefly on ferry
2. The way the therapist behaved was nothing like a therapist would behave
3. Loads of blood everywhere when he "fell" off the cliff. They would have known instantly it wasn't an accident.

They mentioned that it rained heavily the night of Sam Haig’s death, so that may have washed the blood at the top of the cliff away. And the advocate suggested that they didn’t investigate as thoroughly as they should because they just assumed it was what it looked like.