Eurovision 2025 - After Thoughts

[RedToothBrush]

Austria's JJ won with Wasted Love

Winners only won because they used a cool filter

That’s a fresh take

So where did all the public votes come from? My suggestion was made after chats with friends and colleagues. A number of those expressed distaste at the protesters and did so by giving a vote.

Nothing should be assumed from that other than the protesters weren’t endearing. Just as many people dislike the Stop Oil protesters and would say so, that doesn’t mean that they therefore support global warming. Twatty protesters will damage any cause.

Well that’s the question isn’t it. I don’t know anyone who voted for Israel 🤷🏻‍♀️

Well, I do 🤷‍♀️ Each person had up to 20 votes. I didn’t ask everyone exactly how they voted, but I know that a number of people gave that country a vote and every single one who told me they did cited the protesters as the reason.

It wasn’t an awful song, so it’s hardly surprising it got some votes that way too. There were plenty of songs in the top half of the scoreboard that I thought were poor, and other songs that I thought should have been higher were languishing in the bottom half. My deduction - we all have different musical taste for a start, plus, on occasion, other things affect our voting too.

As an example, I enjoyed the Iceland song, but didn’t like the Estonia one. Iceland came shocking low (to me), Estonia came shockingly high (to me). I’m hardly sitting here fuming or accusing people of cheating. It’s just horses for courses. We don’t all like the same thing, and if people are allowed to vote more than once, then their votes will likely be motivated by a mix of things.

How did you, and all your friends, know about the protests? There was ( deliberately) vanishingly little TV and press coverage .

I can’t answer for all my friends but I saw some online when I googled for Eurovision news. I also saw some on X/Twitter.

Yes, none on TV but news sites referenced protesters in Basel and at the semis. I read a lot about it in various places, some pro the country, some not.

Which is ironically what may have happened had they actually scored a couple more points and won!

There's more than one way to a destination.

I don't buy that for a second.

So why did they get the votes?

I think you're right. I also think that if the attempted stage invasion had happened, Israel would have won.

Birds of a feather (Raahh you need that T-shirt)

I guess thigh boots take a while to review

I can't even remember which country it was, but one song in the first semi-final had a pretend protester who was hauled out by security as part of their act.

I genuinely thought it was a real miscreant at first - shades of the time when Spain had a pitch-invader during their song years ago.

I do!!

@IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta Estonia

I also thought it was real for a moment in the semi. Great staging!

It didn't work for us with SuRi.

Everyone I know who was in serious objection to their competition boycotted the whole show, therefore didn't vote for anyone.

Probably why they did so well then.

Totally self defeating.

Facepalm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg77pxj2mno

Do we really think everyone who voted ( especially for Israel but also for other countries) watched?

I'm willing to bet our repeat and especially vituperative visitor didn't watch.

Of course people don't all watch, and they certainly don't all watch it all the way through. A lot of people will watch a little bit then throw a vote or multiple votes for their home country or the woman who got the most clothes off or something that made them laugh. That's the way it's always been.

You miss my point.

Many of the votes come from people who don't watch one single second of it and never have.

I just can't see w way of mending it.