Tempting fortune

[Littleguggi]

Anyone watching? Couldn't find a thread.

Watched it last year but it feels staged this year..

He was grim

I found that disrespectful too. He is justifying stealing. I wonder if he steals from donations that go into the church. “As he’s a family man and needs to put his own family first” (over honesty)

I wouldn't trust him to pull the raffle tickets at the church fete.

Sam with a permanent mardy face. She was the worst contestant by far. She thought she was superior to everyone else.

Sam saying at the end she wished she'd taken more temptations. Disgusted with David, saying he was taking his vicar hat and responsibilities off and having a break to act like his real self! It's a vocation not a job mate! Nathaniel is just self centered. Not splitting the £10k night was really low. DH really annoyed they didn't split the cash according to the temptations taken so Hugo who hadn't taken any didn't benefit from it. Appreciate they had to change it up but was just unfair

Theres something really rotten about this show - the greediest people get rewarded, and the decent ones with morals (not you Sam) walk away with the least. I suppose they all applied to go on it knowing what the deal was, but I’d love to see the temptation money taken out of their individual final amounts as a kick in the teeth at the end.

Yes David conveniently wasn’t Nathaniel’s Bad Boy 4 Life when he spunked £10K on the retreat and stayed all by himself, the nob.

I’ve known a couple of formidable Churchwardens in my time (think Margaret Rutherford types with a rich fruity voice that could project from one end of a cathedral to another without microphone). Churchwardens in the CofE are elected by the parishioners and have a lot of legal duties and are effectively the lay people that hold the vicar to account (and run the non-spiritual aspects of parish in the absence of a vicar). I wonder what David’s Churchwardens have to say. Plus, of course, the Churchwardens of any future parish he may wish to apply to.

He seems eminently unsuitable for ordained ministry. I lost count of how many times he said “I’m a VICKAH!” but didn’t hear him say once that he’s a Christian. He certainly didn’t appear to live a life of a follower of Jesus.

And something else that occurred to me afterwards - it seems very poor optics to have the two black men ending up being the “thieves” that “stole” the money. Even if Thom and Sam would have taken it first if their partners would have agreed.

And something else that occurred to me afterwards - it seems very poor optics to have the two black men ending up being the “thieves” that “stole” the money. Even if Thom and Sam would have taken it first if their partners would have agreed

It crossed my mind too that it looked bad but their colour had nothing to do with it, both just loathsome individuals

TBF I think it just made organised Christian religion look bad (like it doesn't have issues already)! And Nathaniel was just a nob with all that natural leader, alpha male needing his protein shite.

Glad Nathaniel and David got the most money in the end - played it smart! Sam looked like she had a wasp in her mouth even when she was 'enjoying' the saling treats but especially when the guys got their share of payout 😂 KARMA

Just be happy for everyone. I know you are all upset because it was the 2 black men that had the £20k - they both knew the hard lives they and their families had/will have therefore they take your chances when they can. They WILL get stopped by police!!!!

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I think some of us are annoyed with them because they showed themselves to be greedy selfish fuckers who couldn't actually resist temptation but whatever, you do you.

My issue wasn’t that Nathaniel was greedy. It was that he was going on about imani being weak and that’s why she took temptations, and tried to bully people into his way of thinking and then spent 10k on himself because “I’m the leader and I deserve it”. I don’t mind the greed, it’s part of the program in a way, it was the blatant hypocrisy that bothered me.

In a way the programme is like The Traitors but with nicer weather. Whilst at heart it's just a programme for audience entertainment, it does show the whole spectrum of human characteristics from the people who see it as a game, nothing personal to those who feel they've genuinely made friends who they couldn't screw over.

I liked Trish, at the end she wouldn't take the money because of how it would make her feel about herself, and I completely get that.

Hugo, it was like a personal quest not to give in to temptation, which I also get but as he admitted, the actual money was less important to him because of his background.

As I say I just thought Nathaniel was a nob with all his insisting that he took the retreat because he needed it mentally. Had he admitted he was a loner who didn't give a shit about anyone else I might have had grudging respect for his honesty but instead he kept going on about being a leader and NEEDING to have regular food and mental sustenance 🙄.

I wasn't mad on Sam either, she looked like a PITA but at least she was quite open after the others had given into temptations that she didn't trust any of them and she was just going to do what was best for her.

David was just so weak and self-justifying. God knows why he became a vicar.

I agree, they should have done separate prize pots like last year but done it a lot earlier.

It's always those that are the worst, the ones that are religious

The Lord giveth, and The Lord taketh away - KARMA

I think you’re mixing your faiths there.

I agree, by now we should be accepting that colour/sexuality/disability/age etc has no bearing on whether you are a nice person or not.

Problems is that that is still widespread institutional racism in many police forces with young, black men disproportionally targeted. David and Nathaniel’s actions with the £20k would have fed right into the racists’ narratives.

The more I think about it, the more annoyed I am with David. Nathaniel is just a knob, but David has committed himself to a life of Christian leadership. There is (or should be) a lot of discernment along the way on whether ordained ministry is really what God is calling someone to do. A lot of study and self examination as well as assessment by other people. He must have been mid twenties when he was ordained, which is young these days, so I do wonder whether it was rushed through because young men wanting to be vicars are thin on the ground these days in England. I know someone that was clearly destined to be a priest from his early teens and has worked all his adult life in the employment of the Church in various pastoral roles, but even he didn’t get ordained until in his thirties and everyone was sure it was the right step.

Vicar burnout is a real thing because you have to be a teacher, lead services, comfort people in distress etc all the while managing a hefty budget, a huge building (often old, in poor repair and cold and draughty) and all the people in the parish council who usually pull in opposite directions. I get that David wanted a break from that. But every Vicar I’ve known who has taken a sabbatical has said it was a sabbatical from the parish, not from God. They’ve generally gone and done something that allowed them to reconnect and refresh their faith. They’ve not stopped living their Christian values. And that includes a belief that God will provide what they need, which is not always what they want, and a few bits and pieces from Jesus about rich men, eye of the needle and heaven. And generosity to others. Sacrificial giving was the in thing a while back - I wonder if David tithed his prize money like all members of the CofE are encouraged to do?

Another one quite shocked by David, especially considering he will be housed by the C of E, not paying any rent or a mortgage. And you don't take a break from being a priest! 🙄

But many clergy are very cavalier with (other people's) money, especially in the Evangelical end of the spectrum. I also suspect that David has never had a "normal" job, which partially explains his casual attitude. Some clergy train really young so have little life experience, and while the work is tough, they also get their arse kissed by adoring parishioners a lot. You can imagine what effect that has on a young person over time. And having googled him yesterday, he seems to have quite a media presence.

I also thought David pathetic and a hypocrite, and seemed even to convince himself. How on earth he ever came to be a vicar, what an idiot, and he obviously had no Christian ethic ... stealing from the others was what he was doing. I just wish they had all taken that last boat celebration ... they deserved it. But for David to so brazenly take that 10K was unbelievable.

I also was hoping that all the temptation money would be subtracted from their prize money. Most especially in the case of David, who was greedy, grasping and cheating right from the start. And when they took the 10K they seemed so pleased with themselves, and totally unaware that they had stolen this from the others. I was in total sympathy with Sam.

Just caught up n Sam is the best in there, except Hugo & Sam, the rest I wouldn't trust at all, yet David is a Vicar

I felt for Thom. he was so right in what he said to Hugo and about him.
Sam was a pain in the end. Imani turned out alright in the end. Nathinal and David were awful.