The Traitors #9 - 'why am I still here?'

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Just two episodes to go until we find out who will be victorious - the traitors or the faithfuls.

Will Alexander save the faithfuls?

Will Charlotte lead Freddie like a lamb to the slaughter?

Who will feel Leanne's wrath tonight?

Will Frankie cry at the banishment?

Not long until we find out!

Yourself haven’t quite got the measure of this series, have yourself…?!

So excited for tonight!

I like your thinking!

Any of the players could have got the box with the shield in - traitor or faithful so Freddie just needs to keep pointing that out. The fact that Leanne told some of the others may actually make her look like a possible traitor trying a bluff?

I don't think Charlotte has been any more 'ruthless' than Minah.

Both have voted out fellow-traitors (in fact Minah voted out two) and both have expressed relish at the 'murders'. Tthe only difference there was that Charlotte was only settling into her role as a traitor when Minah was already getting jaded, understandably, after pretending for so long. So there's been more recent focus on Minah saying she was finding murdering harder at the same time as Charlotte was expressing enjoyment -- but when Minah was only a new traitor, she was equally enthusiastic about murdering, if not more so!

One of the strengths of being a later-recruited traitor is that lying and scheming is still a novelty, so you have more energy/relish for it.

I think Minah, understandably, turned on her fellow traitors once it was clear to her that there was momentum against them and more to be gained from getting rid of them than keeping them, and that she would have put herself at risk by voting otherwise. There was no momentum against Charlotte, so she had no reason to vote for her. (Every traitor who votes for a traitor dreads that traitor not being banished, having a very awkward confrontation in the tower and getting a new instant enemy. They generally only go with a vote when they think there are enough others in there to swing it.)

Charlotte likewise could see that suspicion of Minah was growing, just as Minah had been aware earlier that suspicion of Linda was growing. Both of them made the same call, apart from Linda being well aware she was possibly going home, and, unusually, giving Minah 'permission'. Minah probably didn't see it coming as clearly.

But I don't think Charlotte is being in any way a more traitorous traitor than Minah. They both played/are playing a blinder.

Anyone rather than those 2!!

Charlotte's accent is excellent. There is more than one type of Welsh accent you know. Not everyone sounds like they're from the valleys.

The Australian traitors season 1 was good.

I like Alexander, it was nice to see him enjoying himself in the doll house challenge. He and claudia were hilarious.

I took against Leanne when she said Alexander was being patronising. I've been patronised by many, many men at work and he was not being patronising. I also like that he rejected the idea that there must be a male traitor.

The difference is that Charlotte was the one mentioning Minah’s name the minute she was made a traitor. Yes that was good play but Minah did not start mentioning Charlotte’s name and she alluded to the fact she wanted them both to go through to the final (yes she could have been lying).

So Charlotte did a targeted and successful take down of Minah.

Ah - so in the absence of any actual gossip news, the Fail has had to resort to dragging up an old issue from two years ago to make a fuss about.

Well colour me surprised that the overwhelming majority of the crew and other staff on the show don't live in Scotland. Of course they don't, not even the Scottish ones. They live where most of the work is - ie near the big film studios, tv centres and theatres. They get hired, and then go wherever the location takes them.

I was out last night so have just caught up. Gutted for Minah!

If they do try to murder Leanne I wonder if she will get a letter about the attempted murder. If she doesn’t then I would be assuming there was no murder because there was a recruitment.

If they do assume that there was an attempt to murder Leanne then I definitely think Freddie and Alexander are in trouble. If I were Freddie then I would be making the argument that one of the people Leanne told was a traitor who then used the opportunity to frame him and Alexander. I don’t know if it would be enough to save him but his focus on Minah hopefully has given him a boost in trust amongst the faithfuls. It’ll be an uphill battle for him to turn people on Charlotte as she’s so trusted in there. I hope he can though because I always feel sorry for the canon fodder recruits and want them to beat the odds.

the clock is moving so slow!
Traitors this week, apprentice next week, good telly.

I know, it feels like such a drag waiting until 9pm!

But think of how different the circumstances of Charlotte and Minah's becoming traitors were.

Minah was there right from the start, when there were far more contestants still figuring one another out, she chose to be a traitor (presumably?), and she was one of three and had a useful role as the quiet, steady one in between gobby Armani and slightly batty Linda, which she played really well. She also had the (probable) confidence boost from knowing she'd been chosen by the producers because they thought she'd be good.

Whereas Charlotte was forcibly recruited mid-series. The game was already well advanced, but wasn't so close to the end that Minah didn't need to consider choosing someone who was going to 'add value' for a while as a fellow-traitor, not just be a sacrificial lamb. Charlotte, though, had no real way of knowing how Minah had been as a fellow-traitor (in fact she'd been an honourable and cooperative one), or what Minah had chosen her for (clever colleague or expendable patsy), so I think it's understandable she was keeping two options in play. 'Work alongside Minah' vs 'Explore whether there's any suspicion of Minah I can use if needed.'

I think Minah would almost certainly have voted for Charlotte's banishment, as she did for Armani and Linda's, if circumstances had been reversed and C attracted a lot of suspicion. But we will never know!

Absolutely not

Just caught up too and really gutted for Minah , I think the last chess game when she decided ( or was pushed by scheming Charlotte ) to be the “ one most under the radar” sealed her fate
I was shouting Noooooo! It simply drew even more attention to her as a traitor
Why is not one person suspecting Charlotte?
I really am now anyone but Charlotte now for the prize money.

Army Barbie will win this year for sure

Hope we also get the extended Uncloaked on stage like we did last year and that Claudia is there again!

I'm rooting for Milk Tray man.

It's 45 minutes tomorrow so hopefully!

Yes, if anything I would say Charlotte was the most under the radar at that point

I'm still here for the Leanne outrage.

Totally agree about Charlotte’s accent. I’m from the Monmouth area, and it’s that kind of accent. Definitely there, but not valleys, no Caaaadiff, not Newpor…
Slightly posh sounding maybe. Sort of, careful.

I’m not even trying to read the thread, just starting now. Yippee!

Right, I’m off for a wee and to get into my PJs. Don’t start without me.