Turkey Teeth and Lego Hair, Shitlid's passion in the air. Mafs Thread 4, our toxic lair. No spoilers!

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Here we go.

Eve is the most sinister individual I've ever seen on reality tv.

Cant wait to see them all gwt their arses handed to them

Eve is this year's Brad.

I think Charlie is being bullied by many the group and persuaded that she is in the wrong all the time. I don't think the relationship is healthy and certainly is not making either of them happy - the best thing would be for the experts to remove them both.

Polly and Eve are hideous.
Eve is a serious gaslighting manipulative piece of work. She's very scary.

Can't stand Polly at all. She deserves shit lid

I genuinely think Eve has psychological issues. She seems so emotionally stunted, unable to have an open conversation, unable to deal with any strong emotions or confrontation, just walks out or starts crying whenever things get intense.

She and Charlie are just fundamentally ill suited. Charlie is needy and very tactile and eve is the polar opposite. Yet again the ixperts showing their utter incompetence in matching. Initially I was team eve but it now appears eve is playing up for sympathy. why cant she sort out her own relationship instead of allowing her cronies to aggressively confront her wife.

Polly needs to stay in her own lane. she's got enough problems of her own. At least Eve and Charlie are attracted to each other!

🤣🤣🤣🤣 the name!

Charlie is still desperately wanting it to work with Eve so keeps apologising and taking the blame when she doesn’t need to.

Ooohhh.

I used to be on Polly's side but totally gone off her after tonight's episode. Eve is vile and scary. Richelle and Orson are actually behaving like normal non TV people, not getting ahead themselves, which is cool

I just think that statement in general and from an 'expert' is so dangerous and easily taken out of context.

In terms of the show, none of these people are 'mates' anyway. They've known each other for a couple of weeks and all out for their own interests / Instagram followers. They don't truly have each other's interests at heart.

I know it's well used but Eve does have significant traits of full blown Narcissistic Personality Disorder!
I have known people like this. They are such victims in public but monstrous behind the scenes. You end up apologising because they can convince others they're the problem. That's what's happening with Charlie. She probably feels insane around Eve.

It's crystal clear that Adam and Polly, Eve and Charlie and Casper and Emma are dead in the water. The writing's been on the wall from the off but no, as usual the ixperts insist that they 'work through' issues (which cannot be worked through!) To me that is misguided at best and exploitative/ damaging at worst.

I've said it before but if one of the couple is not remotely attracted to the other it just ain't gonna work- yet the ixperts then berate them for not trying hard enough. It's like a form of gaslighting - like there's something wrong with you if you can't conjure up an attraction, and that lack of attraction isn't an issue if you just focus on other things?!

Don't get me wrong i'm no fan of Shitlid but he couldn't have been clearer to Polly. She just seems to want him to say it in a million different ways 😂

And let's not forget poor Nathan was sat all in his own!

WTF was with Polly today?!?!?

I feel like if Charlie was as bad/ deranged as Eve has tried to make out she would have taken a swing at Polly tonight.

This show is wild this year, they are mostly a bunch of hideous human beings in hideous relationships and the "experts" encouraging them to stay as they can make such toxic relationships better with a bit of hand massaging, writing letters and safe words is madness. They are all going to come out more fucked up than they went in with added hate from the public.....and Polly's a massive dick and Eves a complete narcissist.

@bumblenbean yes spot on ref the ixpert gaslighting! When Mel interrogated Casper over his lack of attraction to his partner. He just isn't attracted to her physically ffs. Yes he could have been more tactful regards her appearance, but they're continually suggesting he has some sort of defect because he doesn't find her attractive!

I thought he was very perceptive
Charlie's group (Caspar et al) were being genuinely supportive, Crybully Eve's pals were descending into a gleeful bitchfest!

Backpedalling so hard she will be powering the National Grid soon.

Eve is evil. She is a gaslighting, DARVOing, manipulative abuser.

Polly is a bitch. She is a nasty, shitstarring bully. She hasn't even tried to get Charlie's side of the situation. All we have seen so far are Eve's claims and webs of lies and manipulations.

They can shove their apologies where sun doesn't shine

She did.

But then Polly said “I’m going to go pull her” and Eve didn’t stop her or say anything like “No, please leave it to us to sort” etc

And Eve then thanked Polly for ‘sticking up for her’, so she was quite happy for Polly to go have it out with Charlie.

(I’m just watching it again on +1 now)

Totally agree. There is something very wrong with Eve. When Polly took Charlie aside Eve was acting like a hurt child saying oh no please don't, and she looked scared/worried but I noticed that there was also a very fleeting look of glee on her face. Sinister.

Eve is Brad levels of abusive and should be removed from the show instantly.

Also, expert Paul saying that having friends is a bad thing? Fuck off. How dare he call himself an expert and then pedal something this dangerous. Isolation from friends is the first thing that the abusers do.

I wonder if the reason we have three, possibly 4 couples who are actually well matched is because the rest are such, utter car crashes that they needed to balance it all out.
God only knows what the newbies will be like!

Have we taken any guests at this year's "cheating" scandal?