SHERWOOD S2 - sun&mon 9pm BBC 1 - TV PACE NO SPOILERS

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Yah. It’s back !!!

After a two-year wait since season 1, the BBC has finally confirmed when Sherwood (https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/drama/sherwood-season-2-first-look-newsupdate/)
will be back on our screens.

Series one here

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/telly_addicts/4566760-sherwood-bbc-1-mon-and-tue-9pm-tv-pace-no-spoilers

E6 recap for memories sake

https://reelmockery.com/sherwood-season-1-finale-episode-6-recap/amp/

The critically acclaimed crime drama will officially return for season 2 on Sunday 25th August at 9pm, while episode 2 will then air on Monday 26th.

The new six-part series will take us back to the Nottinghamshire town Sherwood and the small ex-mining community still scarred by divisions caused by the 1980s miners’ strike.

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David Morrissey is back as Detective Chief Superintendent Ian St Clair while Lesley Manville and Lorraine Ashbourne are also returning. They'll be joined by David Harewood, Robert Lindsay, Monica Dolan and Sharlene Whyte, as two new families brought into the mix.

The first series of Sherwood focused on a community still reeling from the use of "spycops", a practice in which police officers were sent deep undercover to infiltrate groups that opposed government policy

These had been used during the miners’ strike in the 1980s and the community had never recovered from the betrayal and the divisions it caused. The series saw DCI Ian St Clair (David Morrissey) investigating a crossbow murder, which stirred up old but still raw tensions.
We saw him teaming up with DI Kevin Salisbury (Robert Glenister) and attempting to bury the long-held rivalries that had existed between them since the 1980s. At the crux of the murder was the shock revelation that one of the town’s key residents was originally an undercover cop.
Sherwood season 2 plot
Sherwood season 2 further explores the themes of fractured communities and the political turmoil in today’s Britain, introducing two new families to the town. Meanwhile a newly appointed Sheriff of Nottingham is passionately fighting local government and business leaders to stop a proposed new mine coming to the area. The mine would bring much-needed jobs but is also an unwelcome reminder of the legacy that has blighted the community for so long...

The turmoil in Nottinghamshire’s ex-coal mining community continues into this second series with more violence plus organised crime running rampant. Caught up in the middle are the Sparrow family — mum Daphne (Lorraine Ashbourne), dad Mickey (Philip Jackson) and sons Ronan and Rory (Bill, Jones, Perry Fitzpatrick). New cast includes Monica Dolan as tough local mum Ann Branson, plus David Harewood and Sharlene Whyte as brother and sister Dennis and Pam. Robert Lindsay also stars as a controversial local businessman with big ambitions.
David Morrissey is back as retired detective Ian St Clair and Lesley Manville again plays widowed Julie Jackson.

Sherwood season 2 new cast members
Sherwood season 2 has plenty of new characters and therefore new cast. Look out for Homeland star David Harewood as Dennis Bottomley and Sharlene Whyte (Stephen) plays Dennis's sister Pam Bottomley. Other new cast are Monica Dolan (The Thief, His Wife and the Canoe (https://www.whattowatch.com/features/the-thief-his-wife-and-the-canoe-release-date-cast-plot-trailer-and-all-you-need-to-know)) as Ann Branson and Stephen Dillane as her husband, while Robert Lindsay (My Family) and Robert Emms star, with Ria Zm
itrowicz, Aisling Loftus, Michael Balogun, Christine Bottomley, Oliver Huntingdon, Jorden Myrie, Conor Deane and Bethany Asher.

@duc748 i recall the mother said something like 'we didn't need them pointing out after all'. i thought that was a nod to two black people with a white a young person with Down's syndrome.

I did like the convo about the parsnips, though, "Roasted, with honey?". Thought that was a nice touch. 🙂

If you have witnessed a murder and then absconded you are indeed an accessory. Failure to report is taken seriously.

The drug gangs shot up the house. It was reported by the young lads on the bikes.

This 2nd series has me rooted to the spot, despite being a little confused about the inclusions of some new characters and why they are there. Multiple killings in families happen tragically too often in this country.

Very interesting piece in the Guardian today. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/aug/27/mother-and-son-call-for-review-of-uk-witness-protection-programme

There's an article in the guardian of the actual case this is based on too

www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/aug/05/ukcrime.jamiedoward

Yeah I assumed the writer was trying to evoke the Shottingham era of infamy with this one - not sure how successful it's been though and not quite sure we need all the Nottinghamshire House of Cards routine going on through it either.

Still does bring up that it's one beautiful beautiful county with all these bits of woodland walk randomly on people's doorsteps in the most unexpected places.

I don't R.E.M. sot cio having a baby 40yrs ago and having her adopted

Who is dad

Ffs iphone

Spy cop

Bless James Graham. He's a decent writer.
But adding in...
miduck
messen
cobs
nowt
Ta
...does sound contrived sometimes.
Also, I think he's 41.
So he knows of this history but if he was born in 1983, that was a year before the miner's strike. The real life murders in series 1 were 2004, that would make him 21. The real life murders in series 2 around the same time. He'll have been finishing his degree at Hull by then.

Not that any of that matters much, it's fiction inspired by real events after all, and he'd done This House, Quiz and Dear England before writing these.
It's just curious for me because I was in my formative years in the same area and once I left, that was it. I recognise some of it but he's even younger than me.
An interviewer did ask him about how "write what you know" can apply if writing about a period of time he didn't grow up in (for This House):

“I suppose the world I grew up in was political because my town was changing so much over the ‘80s and ‘90s with the industrial changes and decline. Politics never felt lofty, alienating or London-based. It felt very real.
“It felt like my family, my aunties, my uncles, the people were all involved. It was about real people, real life and I saw my town change so much in the course of 10 years, and the reaction to that. Politics was always pubs, working men’s clubs and being around the table arguing.”

Yes, in real life she would have said they were a middle aged, respectable looking black couple. Not many of those hanging around in Skeggie I guess. She wouldn't have known they would have a child with them nor that they were brother and sister. No need to go along at all.

"It's the messen and hissen that's grating on me a bit - you get that much more further up like Worksop way, never heard any of it around Mansfield and it doesn't sound natural when they do it!
I agree. Miduck is common enough. But some of the dialogue does feel a bit stilted.

The guy who the writer based the storyline regarding the killing of relatives of a murderer was in the news in March 2024 as he challenged his escape risk classification which would impact what prison he would be in and the freedoms allowed.
He lost the case.

"Cobs" is right though.

It is. It just felt a bit Mansfield Bingo Card is all.
My kids used to talk about cobs and then have to explain what they were to their mates (we moved)

And "crusty cobs" for the ones with a crunchy top.

But yes, as far as alumni go, we've got James Graham and Rebecca Addlington.
Can't think of anyone else. Alvin Stardust moved there as a child. Byron lived in Ravenshead of course. Do you still live there fuzzy?

@BastardsWant2PutUpMyPremiums : Byron lived in Ravenshead of course.

Heard he worked as a potwash at The Hutt between Grand Tours.

Mmmm. Crusty cobs.

I don't still live there, but family do.

Back to the dialect thing, I only moved to the area as an adult, but do agree with comments upthread about messen etc being more north Nottinghamshire. However to my ears, most of the rest is fine when it’s actors actually from the area saying the lines - the strange clunkiness comes when it’s someone trying to ‘do’ the accent and not quite pulling it off.

I noticed Robert Lindsay saying “car-sall” (for castle) and he’s got no excuse, he’s from bleddeh Ilson.

Giving him the benefit of the doubt that it’s done on purpose to demonstrate he’s the rich baddie…

To be fair, I'd say " cahsl" but I went to NGHS, where we had elocution lessons to make sure we all spoke proper!

Cobs to that!

@FuzzyPuffling - I don’t think he went there tbf.

I think it's funny these big crime families drive fairly normal cars and have normal haircuts and normal clothes. It makes you wonder what the incentive it.

To be fair with the fucking potholes in Ashfield at the moment I wouldn't be driving anything decent around there!